rolo987
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Atlantic Coast's J41s

Thu Jun 03, 2004 8:20 am

I looked at UA's June schedule and a lot of ACA's J41 are being taken off routes as of today, June 2. Is this the beginning of their removal from the fleet? Or, is this just a schedule change for the summer?
 
jcooke
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RE: Atlantic Coast's J41s

Thu Jun 03, 2004 8:34 am

I think I read they're starting to take some of the J41's out of service. I would definitely not be sad to see these go.  Smile

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RE: Atlantic Coast's J41s

Thu Jun 03, 2004 8:37 am

They are slowly being phased out and retired to make way for further RJ's and the A319/320's that they will be getting a couple of months.


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RE: Atlantic Coast's J41s

Thu Jun 03, 2004 8:39 am

Saab 340's should be comming online anytime now as United Express to replace the J41's

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RE: Atlantic Coast's J41s

Thu Jun 03, 2004 8:43 am

The SF34's are operated by Shuttle America not ACA.



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RE: Atlantic Coast's J41s

Thu Jun 03, 2004 8:44 am

Very true FO...very true

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RE: Atlantic Coast's J41s

Thu Jun 03, 2004 9:09 am

I would definitely not be sad to see these go

How could you say this about the J41? Honestly, my best flights in a turboprop have been on the J41! But to put that in perspective, all the other turboprop flights have been in B1900s!

Have a great evening everyone.

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RE: Atlantic Coast's J41s

Thu Jun 03, 2004 9:25 am

Today (06/02) is to be the final day of service for all but 5 of the J41s. 35 ACA aircraft are scheduled to be WFU tomorrow...CRJs bound for the paintshop and I-Air service, J41s to a storage facility.

J41 was fun to fly as a pilot. As a passenger, it sucks beyond all description.



 
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RE: Atlantic Coast's J41s

Thu Jun 03, 2004 9:42 am

I for one will not miss the Junkstreams! Loud & extremely cramped. It looks like today was the last day for them ROC-IAD . Good! The J31 was no better.
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RE: Atlantic Coast's J41s

Thu Jun 03, 2004 9:54 am

its funny how they consider a saab an "upgrade". lol
 
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RE: Atlantic Coast's J41s

Thu Jun 03, 2004 10:04 am

It's better than the 41 in that the cabin is wider and it has overhead bins. I think it also has that big row of seats in the very back, but maybe I'm thinking of the Brasilia or Dash 8. Anyway, I'm pretty sure they are A model 340s so expect lots of weight restrictions. (maybe even worse than the J41)
 
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RE: Atlantic Coast's J41s

Thu Jun 03, 2004 8:43 pm

In a weird sort of way, I really liked the J31. I never got to fly on the J41, but in the mid 90's for almost three years straight I flew on J31's twice a week from my local airport, and it got to the point where I was on a first name basis with the crews. I started bringing my headset with me and if the a/c wasn't full, I'd move up to the front seats and they'd plug me in. That was a treat, and the ride on the J31 was almost always the best part of my trips...certainly the most interesting!

I guess those kinds of opportunities are gone forever now.

I hope all those guys are flying RJ's now, or have moved up to mainline...they were about the nicest guys you'd ever want to meet.
 
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RE: Atlantic Coast's J41s

Thu Jun 03, 2004 10:40 pm

I had the opportunity to fly ACA's J41s back in January, on a very crappy day weatherwise at IAD. Personally I liked the close quarters and the chance to be a bit more personal and chatty with the crew. Granted bigger seats, overhead bins, and a quieter cabin would be nice. But for a lot of the markets that ACA served from IAD, the J41 was the only and best way to go.
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RE: Atlantic Coast's J41s

Fri Jun 04, 2004 12:08 am

"Today (06/02) is to be the final day of service for all but 5 of the J41s. 35 ACA aircraft are scheduled to be WFU tomorrow...CRJs bound for the paintshop and I-Air service, J41s to a storage facility. "

BLECH. I just *love* how they're still serving my base with the J41s, thank the lordy for AWAC's CRJs on the way... But to be quite honest, DesertJets is right... there are some markets for which the J41 was the only feasible option.
 
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RE: Atlantic Coast's J41s

Fri Jun 04, 2004 1:58 am

Yes, indeed the J41 is a POS from the standpoint of the passenger. (I commute(d) on them, nobody knows this more than myself.)

It's good at what it was designed to do...segments of 300 mi. or less. Performance was reasonable as long as ambient temps weren't too high or there was no need for ice protection. It is/was fairly fast...if I remember right about 280 KTAS. I think only the Brasilia and D-328 cruise faster. During it's better days, it was relatively MX-free. Those days are long gone. Pretty cheap to operate as well...it seats 29 but I believe break-even was around 9.

I enjoyed flying the J41, but I sure as hell won't miss commuting on it.
 
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RE: Atlantic Coast's J41s

Fri Jun 04, 2004 5:19 am

I booked a business trip to State College, PA for June 6-9 a long time ago and I specifically wanted the J41's out of IAD because I have never been on one. A few weeks ago, I noticed the flights were changed to Shuttle America Saab 340's. I'm a little bit disappointed...

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RE: Atlantic Coast's J41s

Fri Jun 04, 2004 5:38 am

Mark:

Don't be =)
 
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RE: Atlantic Coast's J41s

Fri Jun 04, 2004 11:13 am

I will not forget my last junkstream flight.... Aug 02,GSO-IAD. After boarding,props begin to turn,and turn. Then stop. Cap't comes on and says a warning lite came on,we'll have to wait 3 minutes and restart...In August North Carolina heat & humidity in a filled to capacity plane....Not fun....
I had a MUCH better time on the flight down,IAD was all messed up with t-storms so when I checked in for my UA flight I was offered a transfer to another airline,but only DL would give me my miles. So I took the Delta flight on 2 727's thru ATL ! Much better flight than the 2 J41's I would have taken on UA  Smile
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RE: Atlantic Coast's J41s

Sat Jun 05, 2004 2:50 am

I used to live in CHO, where I could easily non-rev on the J41s and J31s. At one point there were 10-15 of them a day... Does anyone know who will be picking up the IAD-CHO route for UA Express ? and with what aircraft?

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RE: Atlantic Coast's J41s

Sat Jun 05, 2004 3:01 am

The first five retired J41's are flying to PQI for storage right now...if any of you have any ASD programs their idents are BLR99xx. I believe another 10 or so are skd to fly up there today too.
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