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808 Or 787?

Thu Jun 03, 2004 9:47 pm

Personally, there is no need to remove the 7-7 numbers. Airbus built its airplane of the future, the A380 and kept the 3 series. Why doesn't Boeing stick to a legacy thats been with them since the 707, That seven has just become a common place in aviation, to change it, granted sometimes change is good, but reliability and the notion of something being around for a while, is also something to be spoken for as well. Boeing should keep the 7-7 numbers, to let everyone know we have been established and we will continue to be here.

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RE: 808 Or 787?

Thu Jun 03, 2004 9:54 pm

Eventually they are going to have to finish the 7-7 format (787 797 7107 wtf!!) so I think now is a good time to do it. I have a mild suspicion they are going to keep 7E7 though.
 
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RE: 808 Or 787?

Thu Jun 03, 2004 9:55 pm

Do the airlines think that Boeing will not "continue to be here" if Boeing aircrafts get other numbers?
Boeing should work on its planes and not on its numbers.

Maybe they could show: we've something new, very modern, another sort of aircraft, so we don't use the 7er numbers any more.

 
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RE: 808 Or 787?

Thu Jun 03, 2004 9:59 pm

If the 7E7 is supposed to be a "new generation" of aircraft...then start with a new generation of numbers..it will show that Boeing is going for the future and not just staying with an old system. Like what was mentioned before, if they kept the 7 #s..what are they going to do when they get to 797, etc.? Plus if they keep it the "7E7," what are they going to name the next one?? Just my opinion  Big thumbs up
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RE: 808 Or 787?

Thu Jun 03, 2004 10:03 pm

The 7D7 perhaps. Maybe they could go with the #L# format, They could use 7A7, 7B7, 7C7, 7D7, 7E7, 7F7, 7G7, 7H7 and so on. The only question is, what kind of confusion would it cause for companies who operate 737-7H7 aircraft.
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RE: 808 Or 787?

Thu Jun 03, 2004 10:05 pm

I think it is just easier to go to the 8#s...it owuld be very strange at first but i think we could get used to it.
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RE: 808 Or 787?

Thu Jun 03, 2004 10:10 pm

I think this should be not a problem. They should try to build a good product that has all the things and fuel reduced amount Boeing promises.
We're living in a modern world where lots of things change very often and fast.
So I am sure people can live with an 8 instead of 7.
 
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RE: 808 Or 787?

Thu Jun 03, 2004 10:36 pm

This is a very important issue. Boeing is running out of numbers. Once 797 has been reached they will be forced to close down.
 
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RE: 808 Or 787?

Thu Jun 03, 2004 10:37 pm

I don't get it.

Have Boeing suggested that the 7E7 will be in the 8's instead? As far as I was aware 7E7 was the same as the A3XX, the E was just a substitute for another number (8, 9) that will be added once the aircraft gets off the drawing board.
 
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RE: 808 Or 787?

Thu Jun 03, 2004 10:40 pm

The 7E7 should be a major advance, but it will not be the quantum leap that the 707 was. I think Boeing should stick with the 7- series for now, and reserve moving to the 8's until its next truly revolutionary advance is made.
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RE: 808 Or 787?

Thu Jun 03, 2004 10:44 pm


Have Boeing suggested that the 7E7 will be in the 8's instead? As far as I was aware 7E7 was the same as the A3XX, the E was just a substitute for another number (8, 9) that will be added once the aircraft gets off the drawing board.


But you forgot, the original 707 prototype was named the Dash 80, or more precisely, the 367-80. One thing that is constant is all Boeing models always have a 7. While I strongly suspect that the 7e7 will not be named 787, I also don't think it will be called the 808. Is Boeing ready to break away from the "7" tradition?
 
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RE: 808 Or 787?

Thu Jun 03, 2004 11:11 pm

Although I definitely like the idea, I think rushing to 808 before it's really necessary would amount to stamp all the existing Boeing families "old junk".
 
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RE: 808 Or 787?

Thu Jun 03, 2004 11:15 pm

My understanding was that "E" is representative of the #5, since E is the 5th letter of the alphabet. Has anyone even considered that the 7E7 will just be the NG of the 757?? Being that production has ended on the 757, it does seem possible since the two aircraft are designed to carry similar pax loads, and a similar thing was done when the NG 737 was launched. Perhaps these will be "757-600, 75G, 757-800" and so on?

Any input?
 
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RE: 808 Or 787?

Thu Jun 03, 2004 11:17 pm

I think the 7E7 should become the 787, for sure.

Am concerned about those 737's, though! We're up to the -900 series already, so which direction do they go in with the (next?) series??! I say keep on going - roll on the 737-1000!  Smile/happy/getting dizzy
 
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RE: 808 Or 787?

Thu Jun 03, 2004 11:26 pm

Has anyone even considered that the 7E7 will just be the NG of the 757??

You've been looking at too much Airbus propaganda, friend. The 7E7 is much more than "just the NG of the 757." Besides - the 'E' stands for Efficient, not for being the fifth letter of the alphabet.
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RE: 808 Or 787?

Thu Jun 03, 2004 11:51 pm

"This is a very important issue. Boeing is running out of numbers. Once 797 has been reached they will be forced to close down."

LOL - Thanks for the great laugh. I needed that today.
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RE: 808 Or 787?

Thu Jun 03, 2004 11:55 pm

Won't be 808 anyways as Peugeot registered all 3-digit numbers with a "0" in the middle.

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RE: 808 Or 787?

Fri Jun 04, 2004 12:04 am

This is a very important issue. Boeing is running out of numbers. Once 797 has been reached they will be forced to close down.

What the hell...?

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RE: 808 Or 787?

Fri Jun 04, 2004 12:14 am

It will be the 787 as E will be very old hat when it rolls out. A bit like the A3XX was. Besides, 808 would look very naff, and 7G7 would look worse. Boeing has to risk egg on face soon, and the 7E7 will be their sushi hor'douvre. Chin chin.
 
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RE: 808 Or 787?

Fri Jun 04, 2004 12:30 am

The reason why Boeing described the 707 prototype as Model 367-80 was to ensure that no competitor knew about the project, given that it was developed under a lot of secrecy. If I remember correctly, Model 367 was the designation for the derivatives of the Stratocruiser. However, the registration for the prototype was N70700, so people knew the plane was going to be designated Boeing 707.

By the way, there is one possibility of a new number designation: how about Boeing 2007? After all, when Boeing was studying the Sonic Cruiser project it was done under the Boeing 2XXX moniker.
 
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RE: 808 Or 787?

Fri Jun 04, 2004 12:38 am

Nothing is written in stone yet regarding the new name for the current 7E7. Boeing marketers are playing a teasing game with the general public. The aircraft could very well be renamed the 787 at the official roll-out ceremony. We know the "E" stands for efficiency, but could stand for Eight as well. Just my theory here. Regards.
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RE: 808 Or 787?

Fri Jun 04, 2004 1:47 am

maybe perhaps 888...now that would be cool.....
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RE: 808 Or 787?

Fri Jun 04, 2004 2:12 am



Have about this for controversy . . .

744 Replacement = Boeing 2740 (A340)
Boeing 7E7 = Boeing 2730 (A330)
NG 737 = Boeing 2720 (A320)

Just build upon the Model 2707 designation that was originally given to the proposed Boeing SST.

Maybe . . . but the 787 is a lot better than the 808. I would think if Boeing was press enough to go to the "8" series they should start at the Boeing 828.

 
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RE: 808 Or 787?

Fri Jun 04, 2004 2:13 am

Since Airbus leaped ahead in their number system (from 340 to 380) in part as a way of anticipating Boeing's next aircraft designation of 787 or 808, I am willing to bet the 7e7 will be called the 797.

The 787 or 808 sounds like it should be a BIG aircraft.

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RE: 808 Or 787?

Fri Jun 04, 2004 5:41 am

Nothing wrong with keeping the 7E7 designation. Its new, I'm sure they've never used letters before. Only thing is when in a few years it is no longer the most efficient and most economic airplane, the name would lose some of its edge.

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RE: 808 Or 787?

Fri Jun 04, 2004 8:55 am

Perhaps they are going to break away from numbers and start using actual names, *cough* DREAMLINER…besides I don t think they will be using 808. Last time I checked 808's were a brand of speakers.
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RE: 808 Or 787?

Fri Jun 04, 2004 9:45 am

They won't be changing the name, '7E7', to anything else, my friends. They've spent far too much advertising it with that name, unlike other models with interim designations. Notice that after the program launched, it's STILL '7E7'. That designation's a keeper.

"Perhaps they are going to break away from numbers and start using actual names, *cough* DREAMLINER…"

Oh, please, not THAT name!  Angry At least not out loud.
 
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RE: 808 Or 787?

Fri Jun 04, 2004 3:49 pm

I recall a Boeing manager saying a few months back in Aviation Week that they were still not sure wether to keep 7E7 or change to 787. I personally would prefer 787 and after 797, they could call the aircraft, 2717 (skip 2707 since it was never launched) and continue up...

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