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AirTran New Livery Question

Thu Jun 03, 2004 11:20 pm

I see that AirTran has a hideous new color scheme on its 737s ( http://www.airliners.net/discussions/general_aviation/read.main/1595250/) but what are the plans for the 717s? Will they be repainted as well or remain in original colors?
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RE: AirTran New Livery Question

Thu Jun 03, 2004 11:58 pm

I don't mind the updated livery but it is those blue engines I don't like....
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RE: AirTran New Livery Question

Fri Jun 04, 2004 12:00 am

I might be the exception, I like it.
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RE: AirTran New Livery Question

Fri Jun 04, 2004 12:07 am

It looks like someone put the contrast up too high in Photoshop. Ugh.
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RE: AirTran New Livery Question

Fri Jun 04, 2004 12:19 am

Oooh... I'm not sure I like that either. I really like the current color scheme on the 717's. It looks good on the Airbuses, too. Oh, well...
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RE: AirTran New Livery Question

Fri Jun 04, 2004 12:51 am

Hmmm....not sure yet if I like it. But one thing clearly should be changed: the "AirTran" title on the fuselage should be much larger. The titles are too small on the 717, and on this plane as well.

In the late '80s, both Continental and United enlarged the titles on their paint schemes of the time, and in both cases it was a big improvement. I'd say the titles should be about that size.

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RE: AirTran New Livery Question

Fri Jun 04, 2004 1:17 am

Oh geez....from plain....to plain ugly.
I would have stuck with the original.
The blue looks out of place.
 
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RE: AirTran New Livery Question

Fri Jun 04, 2004 1:31 am

I cannot believe it: I whole-heartedly agree with Greg: it's plain ugly. As if the AirTran Execs were colour-blind: The blue on the engines clashes hideously with the other colours.
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RE: AirTran New Livery Question

Fri Jun 04, 2004 1:38 am

I loved the old colors, but these ones are just cut rate. They violate so many "colorscheme guidlines." I mean, what the hell is with the cheatline starting in the middle of the tail? And who puts completely mismatched engines on like that? If the cheatline started a the APU below the tail and merely swept under (rather than curling back up) then the livery would be decent, but it really looks like some second rate travel agency's leased junker rather than a new 737 for a major airline.
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RE: AirTran New Livery Question

Fri Jun 04, 2004 1:45 am

Blue engines???

This..... is... a... joke...................... right???

AHHH

I think Im gona cry.
 
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RE: AirTran New Livery Question

Fri Jun 04, 2004 2:38 am

Mismatched peice of crap. Ughhh... what have they done?







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RE: AirTran New Livery Question

Fri Jun 04, 2004 4:38 am


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I really like it. I think it is a maturing of the old livery. The 717s should stay as is, and then they can really do something hot 10 years down the line  Smile.

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RE: AirTran New Livery Question

Fri Jun 04, 2004 4:54 am

I have to agree. The cheatline sweep is completely off. Overall the change is good because it moves away from the adapted ValuJet scheme. Perhaps a little more "Back to the Future"...


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RE: AirTran New Livery Question

Fri Jun 04, 2004 5:29 am

Yikes... uhm.. yeah.. interesting look...
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RE: AirTran New Livery Question

Fri Jun 04, 2004 5:36 am

First United...

Now this....

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RE: AirTran New Livery Question

Fri Jun 04, 2004 5:51 am

At least United has colors that match and go with eachother. Blue blue and blue. Come on AirTran, light teal tail, dark teal belly, red stripe out of nowhere, darker bright blue above the red stripe out of nowhere, bright blue engines that match nothing even more than everything else doesn't match anything, and to top it off, black on the nose. Sheeesh.
 
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RE: AirTran New Livery Question

Fri Jun 04, 2004 5:57 am

I'm a bit queasy about these colors myself. I can only hope that, as someone stated in a different thread, the look is better in person. Maybe that would help with the perceived color variations between engines and stripe, tail and belly, etc. I really don't think they used seperate colors for those areas.

Please, please let it look better in person.

Please.

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RE: AirTran New Livery Question

Fri Jun 04, 2004 6:05 am

Good Lord!!!!!!!!!, what the hell were they thinking???? This is just bad.
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RE: AirTran New Livery Question

Fri Jun 04, 2004 6:20 am

On closer inspection, the blue of the stripe and on the engines actually match. The apparent color diference is a bleed-effect optical illusion.

Engines: (top)
Red: 41
Green: 121
Blue: 228

Engines: (side, no shadow)
Red: 27
Green: 94
Blue: 183

Stripe: (over wing)
Red: 58
Green: 134
Blue: 222

Stripe: (Behind trailing edge, directly over "B" in BOEING 737-700)
Red: 21
Green: 81
Blue: 169



Still, you guys know I like FL, and it's UGLY! That blue only belongs if they use it to replace the teal!
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RE: AirTran New Livery Question

Fri Jun 04, 2004 10:21 am

If they wanted to make a change, here's what they should have done:

1. Keep the tail and engines teal, make a portion of the belly teal, make the rest of the fuselage tan, put the red and blue stripe as a separation between the tan and teal, and either keep the blue titles or maybe go with a teal lettering.
(I'm working on a version of this one, hopefully I'll have it done tomorrow evening after I get home from work)

2. Make the entire fuselage tan, and keep the tail and nacelles teal.
(If I have a chance this weekend, I'll attempt this one as well.)

As for the website address, if they would have used a different font, it might look less out of place.
 
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RE: AirTran New Livery Question

Fri Jun 04, 2004 10:43 am

I like the cheatline sweep, but the off-white is too bright, it needs to be quite a bit darker more like the 717's.  Big thumbs up
 
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RE: AirTran New Livery Question

Fri Jun 04, 2004 10:58 am

Your ideas sound good, SRBmod. OUBoy's idea of "Back to the Future" is good too, I would just suggest keeping the A on the tail instead of the sun-logo. With a blue belly, then the blue engines would work.

Another possiblity...have the teal sweep down the fuselage in line with the front upper tail line, with the blue and red cheatline starting there, rounding off to parallel about three feet below the windows, and going to the nose. Then change the engines to teal to match the teal belly.

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RE: AirTran New Livery Question

Fri Jun 04, 2004 11:28 am

Got bored, decided to nearly finish the first one (It had been a work in progress for sometime now), still a little rough (I'll clean it up ASAP), but here's the basic idea:

 
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RE: AirTran New Livery Question

Fri Jun 04, 2004 3:13 pm

I think its better than the A320s painted in AirTran colors. Reduces the amount of tan on the aircraft, especially up front. Compare these two:


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RE: AirTran New Livery Question

Fri Jun 04, 2004 7:11 pm

The Official AirTran Response for the New Livery

......The design for the new livery was chosen to create a more contemporary look for the airline while not getting away from our roots and corporate colors. You’ll notice the tan has been changed to white to freshen the design, while the tail design has the consistency of the teal with the AirTran Airways “a” incorporated, and the red and blue stripes now appear along the side of the aircraft. All of the 737s will roll out with the new livery, and the 717 will be changed as they are going through their normal c-checks.


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RE: AirTran New Livery Question

Sat Jun 05, 2004 7:55 pm

I don't understand what is so hideous about the "new" AirTran livery. I think it looks gorgeous! The bottom stripe matches the color on the tail and the top stripe matches the engines. Nothing uncoordinated there. But, hey, I can't think of any airline scheme that everyone likes. You can only please some of the people some of the time. I think it is a great, modern look for the airline. I would also assume that the paint job looks much more stunning in person. But I also love the new Austrian Airlines livery that seems to be hated as well. So maybe something is wrong with me...  Smile Congrats AirTran!



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RE: AirTran New Livery Question

Sat Jun 05, 2004 8:07 pm

Imagine how those blue engines will match against the green tail on the 717. Yuck!
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RE: AirTran New Livery Question

Sun Jun 06, 2004 4:32 am

Never was a HUGE fan of the FL livery to begin with, but it did look very clean. Now, the new color scheme makes FL look very cheap.

FL....rethink that livery!
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RE: AirTran New Livery Question

Sun Jun 06, 2004 5:22 pm

Gross!!!!

The tail and the engines simply do not match the fuselage. It looks like some sort of hybrid, mid-merger, not-enough-time-to-finish deal. On the older c/s that crappy blue wasn't even noticeable, but now it stands out like an amputated thumb. Absolutely no fluidity. This has to b the worst intentional color scheme of all time. Its like the plane has gotten in a fight with itself and is losing.... I used to think Southwest was bad...
 
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RE: AirTran New Livery Question

Sun Jun 06, 2004 7:18 pm

I am lost for words. After reading

"The Official AirTran Response for the New Livery" (as posted by AirTran737), I have to assume that the good AirTran people are quite obviously not only colour-blind, but deaf as well.

Contemporary? That's a joke, isn't it?!? I simply have to repeat myself, this is one of the ugliest liveries I have ever seen. Hideous and absolutely taste-less.

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RE: AirTran New Livery Question

Mon Jun 07, 2004 3:43 am

I got to thinking, and in my experience. I believe that FL WILL NOT refinish their 717's in the new livery. I think most people have not noticed that there is a similar blue/red line on the 717's fuselage it's just hidden between the wing and the engines. So in my conclusion, I think that the Exec's are not going to get the 717's painted in the 737-7's colors simply because some liveries flow on some aircraft and some don't flow on others. Would the 717's livery flow on a 737, no of course not the old livery has no flowing lines created by fineline tape. So no worries the 717's will not be refinished in that modified livery. It Just won't work!

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RE: AirTran New Livery Question

Mon Jun 07, 2004 4:41 am

The AirTran quote above states that the new livery will be applied to the 717s.

The previous livery was applied to AirTran's old 737-200s...


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Overall, I like the new livery, though I'm reserving judgment on the blue engines until I see it in person. I recognize that it matches the blue stripe; I just like the color teal in general.

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RE: AirTran New Livery Question

Mon Jun 07, 2004 4:44 am

There is something about it that just rubs me the wrong way! ::::::Shudder::::: Anyways, it just doesn't look right, something doesn't match up! I think it is the way those lines go. Maybe if they were moved a little and reshaped they'd look better.

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RE: AirTran New Livery Question

Mon Jun 07, 2004 5:32 am

I'm in agreement with those who think the new colors are just WRONG.
 
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RE: AirTran New Livery Question

Mon Jun 07, 2004 10:30 pm

FUGLY! thats all there is to say about it...It looks like a color blind fool with a few cans of paint had an afternoon adventure with his/her kindergarten aged child.
 
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RE: AirTran New Livery Question

Mon Jun 07, 2004 10:41 pm

Someone made a great point above: While it may work (slightly) on the 73G's. That blue colour next to the green tail on the 717's is going to look like someone made a mistake in the paintshop.

All in all, I'm not sure why they bothered changing it.
 
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RE: AirTran New Livery Question

Mon Jun 07, 2004 10:47 pm

"So no worries the 717's will not be refinished in that modified livery. It Just won't work!"

Did you not read the previous posts? From AirTran737 above:

"The Official AirTran Response for the New Livery

......All of the 737s will roll out with the new livery, and the 717 will be changed as they are going through their normal c-checks."

 
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RE: AirTran New Livery Question

Tue Jun 08, 2004 1:19 am

Euwuwuww - not beautiful. The teal is good, the 'a' is good, lose the wiggly stripes, make the titles billboard, keep the rear fuselage how it is on the current scheme, make the fuselage white instead of the ugly beige.
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