klmcedric
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Aeroflot Closer To Joining Skyteam!

Thu Jun 03, 2004 11:32 pm

On the 25th of may in Moscow, the president of Aeroflot, Valery Okulov, and Jean -Cyril
Spinetta, Chairman of Air France, signed a memorandum of understanding to undertake
exclusive discussions to pave the way for the Russian flag-carrier to join the Skyteam
alliance, most probably in 2005. KLM President & CEO Leo van Wijk was present as well.

Membership will only become defintive for the Russian carrier once it meets the
quality requirements set by Skyteam. During the ceremony, Valery okulov declared:
" The prospect of joining one of the world's three leading airline alliances opens up new
development opportunities for Aeroflot. As we speak, our airline is initiating the process
wich will enable it to meet Skyteam's requirements in terms of service quality and organization. We are proud and happy to be laying the groundwork for our membership
in the best of alliances."

Aeroflot was established in 1923. Nowadays , operating a fleet of 92 aircraft and carrying
pax and cargo to 88 destinations in 42 countries, it is the biggest international and domestic
air carrier in Russia.

In 2003, Aeroflot carried 5.8 million pax. The Russian State owns 51% of the airline.
By 2007 , Aeroflot plans to build its own terminal at Shermetyevo airport in Moscow.

Can anyone tell me what exactly is the big difference in "quality of service and organisation" between Aeroflot and the Skyteam members.
From what I hear they are pretty good, and at least, they still serve a descent meal and
alcoholic beverages on SVO-AMS flights as opposed to KLM. (Don't know about the others)

I can understand that KLM is trying to save on the catering of the Europe product, but
I think it's going to far if they apply it on the longest euro-lights such as SVO, LED, IST who
all take more then 3 hours. Not offering a beer and a newspaper on these flights is a bit over the top. I don't think that's in line with the other Skyteam members, or is it???
 
L410Turbolet
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RE: Aeroflot Closer To Joining Skyteam!

Thu Jun 03, 2004 11:51 pm

I'd say its the SU's safety record and a fact that Aeroflot's domestic flights are a completely different world from international, at least what I've read and heard.

KLMCedric, I agree with you. KLM is nice to care about their passengers not being too fat and tries to prescribe them some sort of in-flight diet, I guess.
 
swissgabe
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RE: Aeroflot Closer To Joining Skyteam!

Fri Jun 04, 2004 1:25 am

I think SU's safety record of the last 15 years is not that bad compared to other carriers such as KE or CI.

The whorst thing about Aeroflot is their IMAGE! They might have to work on ...
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OD720
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RE: Aeroflot Closer To Joining Skyteam!

Fri Jun 04, 2004 1:31 am

Aeroflot will be a great addition to SkyTeam. It will open up the whole CIS market for the alliance.

The safety record is excellent. I think SkyTeam know this a lot better than we do.
 
BritishMidland
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RE: Aeroflot Closer To Joining Skyteam!

Fri Jun 04, 2004 2:54 am

This is excellent news!

Now we will be one step closer to having an alliance tail!


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airNondo
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RE: Aeroflot Closer To Joining Skyteam!

Fri Jun 04, 2004 5:55 am

The funny thing is that Aeroflot doesn't even serve the entire CIS anymore. For example, Chisinau (KIV). Air Moldova carries most of the Moscow bound travelers from here. And they don't even fly to the main Aeroflot airport, making connexions a royal pain.
 
scottysair
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RE: Aeroflot Closer To Joining Skyteam!

Fri Jun 04, 2004 10:41 am

This is excellent news for SU & DL will able to join them with SkyTeam.
 
afay1
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RE: Aeroflot Closer To Joining Skyteam!

Fri Jun 04, 2004 2:12 pm

The main problems are indeed harmonization between SU international and domestic. In terms of in-flight amenities, SU international beats most airlines in the food dept., no question. Its entertainment options (other than fellow passengers) leave a lot to be desired, but ditto for Delta. Its ground staff are no ruder than Delta's, so they are in harmony there. However, domestic flights, as fun as they are, would appall most non-av enthusiats. While the TU-154s and 134's aren't that old and are perfectly safe, well designed, etc., they look and feel like the 1960's designs they are. Most airports outside Moscow do not have computerized anything, use handwritten boarding cards, and luggage tags printed in the 1950's (which I personally think is cool, but doesn't instill confidence in your average business traveller). Only one or two airports in Russia have airbridges and some do not have buses, so basically the plane stops and you get out and walk. Lets not even get into the idea of departure lounges, etc. Actual inflight service domestically is good, with full meals even on 1 hour flights. I love Aeroflot and am a FF, but the image they present to the average traveller is not good. The whole visa thing continues to throw a wrench in the works as well...anyway my 2 cents
 
OD720
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RE: Aeroflot Closer To Joining Skyteam!

Fri Jun 04, 2004 3:10 pm

Afay1,

I know what you mean but you are describing remote cities in Russia which doesn't get that many visitors in any case. But if you were flying to Armenia, Azerbaijan or to the Central Asian republics, they have decent airport facilities and Aeroflot flights to these cities are considered as international flights.

Still you are right if you have some cities in Siberia and elsewhere in Russia in mind.