FJWH
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KL 763 @ LHR?

Fri Jun 04, 2004 9:18 pm

What are KL 763's doing at London Heathrow? Do they fly AMS - LHR - AMS, if they do, why does KL also uses long-haul planes?


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And which more destinations does KL serve with the 763?

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RE: KL 763 @ LHR?

Fri Jun 04, 2004 9:23 pm


FJWH

KLM frequently substitute the 737 flights for a 767 into LHR. Admittedly, they are not as common as they used to be.

It could have been one of two things, original aircraft went tech or the pax numbers were high on that particular flight.
 
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RE: KL 763 @ LHR?

Fri Jun 04, 2004 9:23 pm

KL1007/1008 operates daily with 767 to LHR according to Amadeus. Arrival LHR 0900 and departure 0955.

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RE: KL 763 @ LHR?

Fri Jun 04, 2004 9:27 pm

BA also use 767 to many European destinations such a Frankfurt, DME, BRU and so on.
 
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RE: KL 763 @ LHR?

Fri Jun 04, 2004 9:44 pm

I'd imgine loads into and out of LHR aer fairly high, being slot controlled using larger planes obviously makes more sense. Larger planes mean more passengers because they have less frequency.

Hope that makes sense.  Big thumbs up
 
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RE: KL 763 @ LHR?

Fri Jun 04, 2004 11:45 pm

KLM have operated a morning 763 to/from Heathrow for years, mainly for the benefit of the heavy North American connection traffic.
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RE: KL 763 @ LHR?

Fri Jun 04, 2004 11:53 pm

I used to work a few days per week in LHR and a few days at AMS, and almost always the morning flight to LHR was a 763. I did prefer BD however, being it a A321, which I like more and is more 'smooth'. ( just my opinion)
 
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RE: KL 763 @ LHR?

Fri Jun 04, 2004 11:58 pm

KLM also utilizes the type to Africa. I recently flew AMS-JRO-DAR-AMS on the '67.

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RE: KL 763 @ LHR?

Sat Jun 05, 2004 12:03 am

KLM opeartes regurlar 767 into LHR especially in the morning so it can pick up passengers to transfer them to africa north america and asia
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RE: KL 763 @ LHR?

Sat Jun 05, 2004 12:06 am

Does anyone know if the Business Class section onboard the 767 is the international product 'World Business Class'?
 
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RE: KL 763 @ LHR?

Sat Jun 05, 2004 12:37 am

Even if the aircraft isn't always filled, it's better for KLM to use a 767 in the morning as otherwise they had to buy an extra 737 while most 767s would be parked at mornings (arriving around 07.00 AM and departing in the afternoon to the US or the evening to Africa and the Middle east).
The mixed use of their mid size aircraft had been like that for years. DC-8-63s and then the A-310s used to do a lot of the busier European routes in the late 70s, 80s and early 90s, like ATH, CDG, MAD, LIN and LIS. Actually the 737 has slowly taken over most european routes and now even typical DC-8/A-310 stuff like BEY and CAI.
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RE: KL 763 @ LHR?

Sat Jun 05, 2004 12:50 am

Does anyone know if the Business Class section onboard the 767 is the international product 'World Business Class'?

The seats are the "World Business Class" seats, but the service (meal, etc...) is the "Europe Select" service.
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RE: KL 763 @ LHR?

Sat Jun 05, 2004 1:13 am

KLM have operated a morning 763 to/from Heathrow for years, mainly for the benefit of the heavy North American connection traffic..

Not entirely correct. The B767-300 is there for the benefit of the Accra flight. If the 767 does the AMS-LHR they only have to get the containers out of the aircaft onto the LHR flight (if they have to unload them at all because they regulary use the aircraft inbound from ACC for the outbound LHR flight). They do this not only with the usual LD2 containers but also with LD3 containers (if the ACC flight is operated with a MD-11).. These containers are filled with Accra bound pax at LHR in order to have an effecient transfer. They used to do this also for the Lagos flight but since the Lagos departure ex AMS was moved earlier they couldn't do this anymore.

The second reason is cargo, as the 767 can transport pallets and LD2 and LD3 containers which the 737s can't.

Finally, the first two flights flights to LHR is usually packed with business traffic (although most business traffic on the first) and the second departure can catch transfer pax.

 
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RE: KL 763 @ LHR?

Sat Jun 05, 2004 1:16 am

a ten for LJ!
What he stated above is 100% correct. It just has to do with efficiency.

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RE: KL 763 @ LHR?

Sat Jun 05, 2004 4:15 am

Couldn't help laughing when reading this:

. . . These containers are filled with Accra bound pax at LHR in order to have an effecient transfer . . .


Self loading cargo . . . how efficient Smile/happy/getting dizzy

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RE: KL 763 @ LHR?

Sat Jun 05, 2004 5:43 am

They fly to CAI with their B763s
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RE: KL 763 @ LHR?

Sat Jun 05, 2004 5:53 am

yeah KL1001 is 1/2 full from PAX that just arrived from ACCRA connectibg to heathrow
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RE: KL 763 @ LHR?

Sat Jun 05, 2004 6:09 am

Self loading cargo . . . how efficient

Can't be much worse that the in-cabin service!  Big grin
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