anxebla
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Services From Canada To Mexico

Sat Jun 05, 2004 12:56 am

How many flights are there NON-STOP currently between airports in Canada and Mexico? Is still JAL doing the Vancouver-MEX's leg with B747-300?
What city pair are served? What airlines?
Thank you in advanced.
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RE: Services From Canada To Mexico

Sat Jun 05, 2004 1:20 am

AC operates at least 2 dailies out of YYZ, at least 1 of which I believe is 767 service, they may still have 1 daily from YUL (not sure if they cancelled that), and AC also have a daily out of YVR.

I believe MX has daily flights to YYZ as well, but they got out of YUL market as I gather there wasn't enough there for them.
 
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RE: Services From Canada To Mexico

Sat Jun 05, 2004 1:26 am

The sked services by MX/AC on MX), Mexico">MEX-YYZ/YVR are eclipsed by much larger capacity to resorts such as CUN, PVR, Mazatlan and perhaps 4-5 others from over 10 Cdn cities. There are often 6 daily YYZ-CUN on winter weekend days.

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RE: Services From Canada To Mexico

Sat Jun 05, 2004 1:50 am

WestJet also serves PVR. In fact, that's the first time I've ever seen a WestJet aircraft in person, was from the terminal @ PVR.
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RE: Services From Canada To Mexico

Sat Jun 05, 2004 2:15 am

Anxebla,


Yes, JAL still operates, very successfully btw, the NRT-YVR-MEX twice a week with a B747-300, route which will be up-graded to B-747-400 as from next October. JAL has full rights between MEX and YVR.

In 1995, Canadian Airlines Intl was operating scheduled non stops YYZ-MTY with 737s but dunno whether AC continued doing this until today¿?

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CVG777
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RE: Services From Canada To Mexico

Sat Jun 05, 2004 2:18 am

A quick glance through the June OAG gave me this:

From Montreal
CUN - AC Sat only A319, going to 2x Sat only 6-26
Mexico City - MX Daily A319


From Toronto
CUN - AC Sat/Sun A320
Mexico City - AC Daily 767
MX 5x Wk A320

From Vancouver
Mexico City - MX 6x Wk A319
JL 2x Wk 747

This is gauranteed to be a much larger list with additional pairs during the winter months. I believe the Westjet services to Mexico are charters, correct me if I am wrong.

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robsawatsky
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RE: Services From Canada To Mexico

Sat Jun 05, 2004 4:57 am

Well for Canadian scheduled carriers:

Under current schedules, non-stop, on AC metal, not code-share

AC: (scheduled)
YYC-CUN
YUL-CUN
YYZ-CUN
YUL-MEX
YYZ-MEX
YVR-MEX


Skyservice (charters)
YYC-CUN
YMX-CUN
YYZ-CUN
YYZ-PVR
YVR-CUN
YVR-PVR

Air Transat (charters) not sure these are all non-stop
YYC-CUN
YYC-PVR
YEG-CUN
YHZ-CUN
YUL-ACA
YUL-CUN
YUL-HUX
YUL-ZIH
YUL-ZLO
YUL-PVR
YQB-CUN
YYZ-ACA
YYZ-CUN
YYZ-HUX
YYZ-ZIH
YYZ-PVR
YVR-CUN
YVR-PVO

Westjet does charters for Air Transat holidays on some of their western canada mexico routes

Harmony (HMY) (charters)
YVR-CUN
YVR-PVO
YVR-ZLO
 
Aviationman
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RE: Services From Canada To Mexico

Sat Jun 05, 2004 6:37 am

Cayman, MX is still daily out of YUL. They never pulled out. Actually, they reduced their frequency out of YYZ.....never out of YUL. Sorry!
 
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RE: Services From Canada To Mexico

Sat Jun 05, 2004 7:22 am

Just about every major city west of YQB in Canada has winter charters to at least 1 Mexican destination on SSV, ZM, SG, AC, TS, WS, etc.
 
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RE: Services From Canada To Mexico

Sat Jun 05, 2004 11:27 pm

The current MX schedules indicate that the two AC daily flights to MEx from YYZ are done with A319's, but I have also heard that a 767 is sometimes used in this route. Never seen it in MEx, though.

In addition, if I am correct, there used to be a GDL-YVR flight twice a week but it seems that it was cancelled, probably due to poor demand.

MX is rumored to be looking at one new destination in Canada. YOW, YYC and YEG have been mentioned here in a.net but so far nothing has been announced by MX yet.

Finally, just on a side note, AM places its code on JL's 2x weekly MEx-YVR flight, which will be upgraded from a 743 to a 744 in October. AM used to fly to YYZ in the past but it left the Canadian market to MX.
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RE: Services From Canada To Mexico

Sat Jun 05, 2004 11:52 pm

If I recall well, the GDL-YVR flight was just a segment of a MeX-YVR scheduled flight.

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RE: Services From Canada To Mexico

Sun Jun 06, 2004 8:10 am

Mexicana has not pulled out of YUL, in fact they are adding an additional
daily flight in December and apparently it will contiue to Quito and possibly
to Guayaquil.

They are beefing up service from Canada and adding Calgary.
 
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RE: Services From Canada To Mexico

Sun Jun 06, 2004 8:21 am

Robsawatsky,

You need to get some of your facts straight.

AC doesnt operate YVR-MX), Mexico">MEX on AC metal... its operated on MX metal and it is code shared.

Dont know about your other routes...

Cheers,

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RE: Services From Canada To Mexico

Sun Jun 06, 2004 9:07 am

Is JAL (like Iberia in the past) the unique non-mexican/canadian airline doing flights between Canada and Mexico or there is other one in addition? I think MEX can be easily accessible via YVR since MEX is a very high airport and YVR is the nearest important airport in North America from Asia
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Noise
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RE: Services From Canada To Mexico

Sun Jun 06, 2004 9:22 am

NAVEGA, where did you get this information concerning additional flights to Montreal and Calgary?
 
timz
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RE: Services From Canada To Mexico

Sun Jun 06, 2004 9:28 am

As for foreign airlines betw Canada and Mexico: in the 1950s KLM flew MTY-YUL.
 
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RE: Services From Canada To Mexico

Sun Jun 06, 2004 9:30 am

AM used to fly to YYZ in the past but it left the Canadian market to MX

I had an Aeromexico flight just arrived at the gate next door when I arrived at YYZ T3 a few weeks. Not sure if it was sked/charter or where it came from, but it was an Aeromexico MD80....
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RE: Services From Canada To Mexico

Sun Jun 06, 2004 8:12 pm

Here in Saskatoon, we got several charters to Mexico this past winter. Skyservice, Air Transat, and Westjet all had flights from here to various destinations, with most flights stopping in Regina. I saw an Air Transat A310 landing one night. We don't get many large aircraft here at YXE, so that was a treat. Occasionally, Northwest send a 757, rather than the normal DC-9, during the hunting season, but thats about it.
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RE: Services From Canada To Mexico

Sun Jun 06, 2004 9:23 pm

Noise,


My Uncle workds for Mexicana in their Commercial department. Asked
him again last night about the Calgary service and he said it is in the
planning stages. Might start in December. The South American service
from YUL is set for December and is a fact.
 
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RE: Services From Canada To Mexico

Sun Jun 06, 2004 10:03 pm

NAVEGA,

If I understand correctly, MX would be adding a 2nd daily out of YUL. This 2nd daily would fly YUL-MX), Mexico">MEX-Quito-Guaraquil? Also, I was reading another thread saying that YUL service would be downgraded to A-318's starting in November.

Thanks for confirming this info. It would be great to see MX twice daily out of YUL.....specially to South America. We currently have no South American service.
 
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RE: Services From Canada To Mexico

Mon Jun 07, 2004 2:11 am

NAVEGA, what about the rumours about serving YOW and YEG, which are in addition to YYC. Is there any truth to these?
 
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RE: Services From Canada To Mexico

Mon Jun 07, 2004 2:32 am

Just to add some information to the list that Robsawatsky posted above, some of the Air Transat services to Mexico are scheduled/non-stop. That company is HUGE in CUN with several operations a day on the weekend.

Some other companies that I can think of with service from Canada to Cancun are: Skyservice, HMY, Air Transat, Air Canada, Kelowna and JetsGo.

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RE: Services From Canada To Mexico

Mon Jun 07, 2004 3:38 am

That AM Mad Dog at Pearson was probably just a charter. AM's only current involvement with Canada is the MEx-YVR JL flight on which they codeshare. Otherwise, they partner with DL for purposes of serving the Mexico-Canada market using ATL and JFK as hubs (and SLC to YYC with regional jets). I don't know if AM's new CEO might want to bring back YYZ to the route map in the short term but it seems to me that it would be hard to make it work since MX is flying MEx-YYZ 5x weekly and AC is flying twice daily (sometimes using a widebody).

NAVEGA, I echo Aviationman's comments; please help us understand the current (or actually the future) situation of MX at YUL. According to my MX schedule valid as of May 1, 2004, MX is flying MEx-YUL-MEx once daily using an A319. The separate thread that Aviationman mentions indicates that, from November, MX will start MEx-UIO/GYE flights using an A318 and that, from December, MX will likely downgrade MEx-YUL to an A318. You kindly explained us here that there will be two MEx-YUL-MEx flights as of December, one with the A319 (just like today) and a second one (airplane type unknown) continuing to Ecuador. What gives?
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anxebla
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RE: Services From Canada To Mexico

Mon Jun 07, 2004 9:29 pm

Maybe the A-318 can be a very small plane for MX? It's not enough with the A-319's?
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