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Backpackers Airline Info

Mon Jun 07, 2004 5:55 am

Has anyone herd anything on Backpackers Airline? All I have herd is they will have 1 or more 747-400 in one class, I hope someone can give some info or the Airlines base and routes.

 
worldoftui
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RE: Backpackers Airline Info

Mon Jun 07, 2004 6:20 am



They will fly MAN-DEL-BKK-MEL twice a week and MUC-DEL-BKK-MEL twice a week

Have a look at their website. The tail going back and forth across the screen reminds me of the start of the film Jaws!

http://www.backpackersxpress.com/index_flash.html

Have a look at this thread too CO737-800. Loads of good stuff on it.  Smile

http://www.airliners.net/discussions/general_aviation/read.main/1484213/4/

Hope this helps

Mark
 
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RE: Backpackers Airline Info

Mon Jun 07, 2004 6:21 am

In the May issue of Airliner World their was an article about them. They are hoping to aquire 2 744s, or 743s. The airline is understood to have had talks with SQ to aquire 2 of its older 744. They plan to operate twice weekly flights from MUC-DEL-BKK-MEL, and three times weekly MAN-DEL-BKK-MEL, and also offer onward connections to AKL and CHC. They have chosen Melbourne as their hub. The aircrafts will be configured in an all economy class config with 473 seats, however due to the position of pillars, doors, and seat fixing points, there will be 3 comfort levels. Seats on the lower deck will have 32 inch pitch, upper deck will have 36 inch pitch in the rear section, and 40 inch in the forward section. They plan to charge more depending on where you are sitting. There will be an onboard bar, karaoke, and dance competitions and live performances and cultural demonstrations of the destination/s ahead. Passengers will also be able to rent mini dvd players to watch movies, listen to music, and watch educational programs.

As for livery, the aircraft will be all silver, with a big yellow smilling face on the tail, a small one on the nose, and 2 pictures of Backpackers. The engines will be painted to look like Victoria Bitter Beer cans.

I hope this is helps.

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RE: Backpackers Airline Info

Mon Jun 07, 2004 6:22 am

From their website and another website it seems they're flying to Melbourne from Manchester and Munich with stops in Delhi and Bangkok.

It's true they'll have one class. The aircraft will have a bar, I presume on the upper deck.

Much more info about their product on their website:
http://backpackersxpress.com/

The other source:
http://www.springwise.com/newbusinessideas/backpackersXpress.htm

Kind regards,

Jeroen
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RE: Backpackers Airline Info

Mon Jun 07, 2004 6:56 am

This was already discussed in a earlier post that none of you have talked about
 
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RE: Backpackers Airline Info

Mon Jun 07, 2004 7:39 am

http://www.waywardbus.com.au/xpress.html

British backpackers coming to Australia are soon to get their own dedicated charter airline, Backpackers Xpress, featuring one-class jumbo jets with engines painted as beer cans and giant 'smiley' faces on the nose cone and tail.
First class will be gutted and turned into a bar. According to the Sydney Morning Herald, backpackers will be treated to party pies, pizza, a range of beers, personal DVDs with over 300 titles, karaoke and dance competitions, surf 'n sun safety, talks on Australian wildlife with flight attendants who will stir up the fun, including young Aboriginal people who will give an introduction to indigenous culture. It was not said whether the talks will be given before the beer. BackpackersXpress return fares would start from AUD$1290 (about ST500) with a projected 139,000 backpackers flying in the first 12 months. Neighbours star Ryan Moloney (who?) is lined up to be the promotional face of Backpackers Xpress.

Two Jumbos! The Ausaviation website reports the two 747 jets might be coming from Singapore Airlines while the people behind Backpackers Xpress include Australian Glenn Millen, ex Qantas captain Gordon Layton and ex Sunstate Airlines founder Bevan Whittaker. Stopovers will include Delhi and Bangkok. The site also speculates on a link between BackpackersXpress and Qantas' new budget domestic start-up, Jetstar.
 
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RE: Backpackers Airline Info

Mon Jun 07, 2004 1:18 pm

Not mentioned in this thread is that both Backpackers AND Qantas have applied for the same flights available to Oz airlines under the current bilateral.

Who will get them is of course unknown, but IMHO they will go to Qantas, because:
1) QF are applying for daily frequencey, backpackers for only 5 weekly, effectively leaving 3 flights unuseable, except by them, later on. I cant see the IASC being overly happy with this.
2) QF will undoubtly have a business plan which shows more economic benfit to Oz from their plans then Backpackers plan.
3) Three daily is a long held ambition by both QF and the Oz government. It was being talked about in 1977, belive it or not.

Another possability is of course an increase in the number of flights available under the treaty. IF both sides agree this could be done relatively quickly.


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RE: Backpackers Airline Info

Mon Jun 07, 2004 7:11 pm


I thought QF had been granted an extra 4 weekly services to LHR with IASC deciding between the two airlines for the other 3 frequencies. Writing as a Mancunian, I would prefer to see a MAN-Australia link avoiding LHR!

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RE: Backpackers Airline Info

Mon Jun 07, 2004 7:40 pm

Airbus3801

Thanks for your input here, but please re-read my post - reply 1.
Thanks

Mark
 
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RE: Backpackers Airline Info

Mon Jun 07, 2004 8:03 pm

Sounds anfully gimicky to me. Baclpackers are generally very frugal travelers looking to make their money stretch. I ran into some backpackers in Bangok a few years ago and they told me they paid U$599 JFK-BKK flying Biman with three stops (!). It doesn't seem that if BackpackerXpress is going to provide an onboard pub/cafe, live entertainment, educational seminars, and personal DVD players, that they would be able to provide a competively priced product.
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RE: Backpackers Airline Info

Mon Jun 07, 2004 10:03 pm

I think this is a real streach of the imagination if it even gets off the ground. And not a good one in my opinion.
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RE: Backpackers Airline Info

Mon Jun 07, 2004 10:19 pm

I have my doubts that this venture will get off the ground. There is a time for talking and thinking and a time for doing.

All the students in Europe are about to start their summer holiday in the next few weeks and the airline is not ready to take bookings or has a timetable (or aircraft!).

Who does it expect to carry if it isn't ready to capitalize on this years students? By its own definition it has to be a summer season only carrier.

It's a really nice idea for an airline but desperately late to make a go of it this year.

and with that..cabin crew, seats for landing please.
 
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RE: Backpackers Airline Info

Mon Jun 07, 2004 10:25 pm

If those aircraft ever look like that I can't wait to see one at MAN!

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RE: Backpackers Airline Info

Mon Jun 07, 2004 10:29 pm

I am an ardent backpacker and have travelled extensively, particularly within India. I am very pleased to see that this proposed airline is wanting to innovate and thereby be seen as distinct, in its attempt to appeal to its target audience. I especially like its routing to MEL, for both India and Thailand are popular countries in which to backpack. What will the airline charge for MAN-DEL-MAN? Most backpackers travel to understand an area or country, to appreciate it, and to have fun – all within a - normally small - budget. BX might satisfy provide a fun, informative atmosphere, but I do hope its fares will be very competitive, for that’s how you’re going to attract the most people. It's a very exciting and different plan.
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RE: Backpackers Airline Info

Tue Jun 08, 2004 3:36 am

Maybe not 744s or even 743s! Over on another aviation website someone has posted a news article from a travel industry magazine which reports BackPackers Express are teaming up with none other than Paul Stoddard's European Aviation Air Charter!

The article reports that Backpackers Express will use Europeans 742s and in future could look to connect woth Stoddards planned airline OzJet. It also states:

"It has not been decided whether Backpackers Express will rent the aircraft from European Aviation or whether the two companies will merge."

Edit: I have found a link to the article, thanks to Google. http://www.travelbiz.com.au/articles/fb/0c020efb.asp

[Edited 2004-06-07 20:41:45]
 
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RE: Backpackers Airline Info

Tue Jun 08, 2004 4:01 am

 
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RE: Backpackers Airline Info

Tue Jun 08, 2004 7:41 am

Don't forget when it's summer in England it's winter in OZ and vice versa.

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RE: Backpackers Airline Info

Tue Jun 08, 2004 4:13 pm

It would be interesting to try a flying youth hostel. Does anyone know whether they'll have 5th freedom between the stopover points? If not, how do they expect to be profitable? My money is on Civair.
 
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RE: Backpackers Airline Info

Tue Jun 08, 2004 4:46 pm

Re: Most backpackers travel to understand an area or country, to appreciate it, and to have fun

While I'm sure you're the exception, most of the backpackers I've come across travel to lie on a beach, shag anything that moves, and get pissed. Most of the time the location is immaterial, and quite often they don't even know where they are ! The desire to absorb local culture is restricted to a small minority - most prefer to absorb local lager. After all, how much local culture can you absorb if you pub crawl between Irish pubs recommended by Lonely Planet, where the only other people you'll meet are Brits/Aussies/South Africans with the same edition of the book ?
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RE: Backpackers Airline Info

Tue Jun 08, 2004 5:11 pm

I've never come really people as bad as that, JGP..., despite meeting many hundred on my travels! Yes, we all like a cold beer at the end of a hot and tiring day, but, in my experience, the vast majority certainly aren't lager-louts - even the Britons. Anyway, we'll have to agree to disagree, as we won't agree and, more importantly, it's not about aviation.

[Edited 2004-06-08 10:15:29]
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