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Beverages In Cockpits

Tue Jun 08, 2004 2:00 am

On my last flight as I always do I take a good look at the cockpit, this time I noticed the first officer had an opened "pop" resting on the center console right next to all the switches/buttons and radios.

This a stupid question...Is there any reg's regarding open beverages in the cockpit? Especially now a days with newer cockpits having computer display systems, won't these display systems be significantly damaged if exposed to liquid?

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RE: Beverages In Cockpits

Tue Jun 08, 2004 2:07 am

No, there are absolutely no regulations that forbids us to drink inside the cockpit! (well, as long as they are non-alcoholic obviously).
Boeing and Airbus aircraft have nice cup-holders by the way (haven't flown on types of other manufacturers)
You would be amazed by the amount of abuse these LCD displays can handle...
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RE: Beverages In Cockpits

Tue Jun 08, 2004 2:09 am

Unless you have a drinking problem like Ted Striker, then i see no problem with having something to drink in the cockpit  Big thumbs up
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RE: Beverages In Cockpits

Tue Jun 08, 2004 2:20 am

On May 8th I been on a jumpseat ride with a VBird A320. Altough it's a low cost airline, my mate and i got a free drink and a free sandwich as we were seated on the flightdeck  Big thumbs up The pilots were eating too.

Also, the captain said, water would not a big problem for the instruments, but he said milk is causing them to collapse  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

Milk is the most dangerous drink regarding the instruments and the panels  Smile

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RE: Beverages In Cockpits

Tue Jun 08, 2004 3:07 am

In 1964 there was a film called 'Fate is the Hunter' about a crash caused by a beverage spilling on the auto-pilot.

The BBC review is copied here:-

Glenn Ford leads the investigation into an air crash for which his friend, pilot Rod Taylor, is thought to be responsible. Flashbacks show us what might have happened, until Ford and sole survivor Suzanne Pleshette restage the flight to solve the mystery. A lot of interesting detail and a surprising cast — Dorothy Malone, Nancy Kwan, Jane Russell playing herself as a forties singer — make this quite watchable, though Ford is fairly glum throughout



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RE: Beverages In Cockpits

Tue Jun 08, 2004 9:16 pm

We always have to use lidded cups (like starbucks etc) for hot of cold drinks when we take them into the flight deck. Most of the time though, the pilots just flip off the lid and put it in the cup holder.
 
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RE: Beverages In Cockpits

Tue Jun 08, 2004 9:48 pm

Every time I had the opportunity of riding upfront, there was a meal/beverage service for the flightcrew, which obviously involved open containers of liquid in the cockpit.
BTW Airbus A320 family cockpits have "cupholders" at the base of the front side windows specifically designed to hold beverage containers.

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RE: Beverages In Cockpits

Wed Jun 09, 2004 5:33 am

Our company has always followed a simple procedure for drinks on the flightdeck to minimise any risks:

Cabin crew are to pass all drinks over the outboard side of the crew, to avoid the risk of any drinks being spilled on the centre console. Ie Captain will have his driks passed over his left shoulder, FO will have his drinks passed over his right shoulder.

Since their respective cupholders are outboard of their seats, in theory at least there is no reason for drinks to come into contact with any instrumentation!!!

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RE: Beverages In Cockpits

Wed Jun 09, 2004 6:10 am

Crosswind,

In my opinion not a very good procedure you people have there.
Always pass the drinks where you have most room, so the least chance of bumping the container against something, and NEVER passing on the side as that is where the approach plates, perf. calculations etc. are mostly hung, and paper is less resistant to cofee than a FMC/CDU my dear friends...

anyway, all these instruments are splash-proof anyway.
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RE: Beverages In Cockpits

Wed Jun 09, 2004 6:59 am

Nope, we follow the same procedure as Crosswind described. I'd rather get an approach plate wet than have coffee spilled all over the RMP and the thrust levers. That won't be good.

The instruments are quite resilient, yes, but it's like spilling coffee on a keyboard. You really don't want sticky keys that won't work.
 
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RE: Beverages In Cockpits

Wed Jun 09, 2004 7:01 am

Oh yeah, and the engineers will kill us if we spilled anything on the pedestal. Al-Qaeda isn't as scary as an angry engineer with a toolkit in his hand.
 
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RE: Beverages In Cockpits

Thu Jun 10, 2004 10:26 am

Hey thanks all... its nice to know and very interesting.
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