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United Disposing Of Some 777s?

Wed Jun 09, 2004 11:27 am

http://www.planemart.com shows 6 ex-United 777s... 2x 777-222s and 4x 777-222ERs being offered by Bristol for sale/lease. These airframes have between 17,000 and 35,000 hours on them, and were built between 1994 and 1999. Are these the only 777s being disposed of by United, or have some already been placed?

And a quick follow up: Have the 767-222/ER's been placed yet? There are quite a few already out in the desert, but they have not been listed for sale for a while. I was curious whether they had any buyers.
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RE: United Disposing Of Some 777s?

Wed Jun 09, 2004 11:32 am

Check out this thread it might have some answers you are seeking.

http://www.airliners.net/discussions/general_aviation/read.main/1601769/
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RE: United Disposing Of Some 777s?

Wed Jun 09, 2004 11:33 am

They should - the glut of capacity in their fleet is ridiculous.
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RE: United Disposing Of Some 777s?

Wed Jun 09, 2004 11:34 am

We were talking about these yesterday.. There is another thread further down about UA's 777s in storage. Although, your list shows, I believe one or two more.

What surprises me is the 2 Delta 777s up for sale/lease too. Hmm..

Thanks for the info Spacepope..
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RE: United Disposing Of Some 777s?

Wed Jun 09, 2004 11:53 am

md11luxurylinr.....DL is selling aircraft not yet built because they have decided that they cannot afford to pay pilots of these aircraft $275,000 per year to fly them. They may buy more in the future, but these are on the market unless something major changes....it does not affect the 777's DL is currently flying.
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RE: United Disposing Of Some 777s?

Wed Jun 09, 2004 11:58 am

DL021..

Thank you, sir. I appreciate the info. I was starting to get a tiny bit of hope that DL was perhaps selling the T7s to return the MD11s to service.. I know, I know.. I was not being realistic..  Laugh out loud
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RE: United Disposing Of Some 777s?

Wed Jun 09, 2004 12:01 pm

I find a record breaking load factor of 80% in May in opposition to Aaron747's comment: They should - the glut of capacity in their fleet is ridiculous.

I think once we retired our rather large fleet of 722's and the remaining 732's that got rid of excess capacity. We're running nothing but full planes. The problem is high fuel costs, readjusting our operating expenses, writting down a lot of items as we traverse through Ch. 11, and a very low yeild environment caused by an increasingly competitive marketplace.

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RE: United Disposing Of Some 777s?

Wed Jun 09, 2004 12:13 pm

Aircraft-Reg's-Powerplants-Serial#-YOM-Hours-Cycles

777-200ER-N205UA-PW4090-28714-1999-29401-3019

777-200ER-N207UA-PW4090-30213-1999-17713-2738

777-200ER-N208UA-PW4090-30214-1999-16854-2605

777-200-N766UA-PW4077-26917-1995-33080-6514


These are the same as stated from the other post and some more information.

It is very sad to see these fine birds being being sold due to the current state of their bank. I hope the other a/c listed in the other post will be put back into service ASAP!!!

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RE: United Disposing Of Some 777s?

Wed Jun 09, 2004 1:17 pm

Looks like your list is a little out of date... the 6 offered are:

type - c/n - build - hours - cycles - reg
777-222 26917 11/1994 33947 6668 N766UA
777-222 26918 12/1994 35650 6942 N767UA
777-222ER 26943 7/1997 29578 4583 N790UA
777-222ER 28714 2/1999 20431 3167 N205UA
777-222ER 30213 6/1999 17832 2749 N207UA
777-222ER 30214 10/1999 17760 2750 N208UA

And to be fair, the 722s and 732s were both retired to eliminate the JT-8D and its support system from the fleet, as well as get rid of the 3rd crewmember in the 722.
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RE: United Disposing Of Some 777s?

Wed Jun 09, 2004 1:35 pm

It is sad to see these birds sitting, the bright side is that they were able to fly them even if it was brief. Some carriers will never own or lease a brand new a/c. Also between the larger US carriers close to half of their fleet of 7's was a luxury. A lot of routes served could have remained profitable with a 767. I would look in the future for STAR to begin picking up extra a/c from US, UA , and AC.
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RE: United Disposing Of Some 777s?

Wed Jun 09, 2004 3:40 pm

They should - the glut of capacity in their fleet is ridiculous-aaron747

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RE: United Disposing Of Some 777s?

Wed Jun 09, 2004 4:26 pm

Looks like nine 737-500 are also due to leave September 11th of this year...

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RE: United Disposing Of Some 777s?

Wed Jun 09, 2004 5:53 pm

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Not at all - any given day of the week at SFO I see no less than four or five 777s sitting all day, going nowhere.
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RE: United Disposing Of Some 777s?

Wed Jun 09, 2004 6:17 pm

Umm, Aaron747 - SFO is a large maintenance facility for UA. Aircraft parked at the SuperBay are there for maintenance. Recently, you may have seen the 777s all rotating through SFO for both routine maintenance and the fitting of E+/C+ on all international aircraft.

They don't generally park planes at SFO any longer than necessary - it's not a cost-effective place to store airframes. If you see planes parked away from the terminal at SFO, they are there for maintenance.

 
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RE: United Disposing Of Some 777s?

Thu Jun 10, 2004 6:10 am


I heard 2 ex-United 772ER would go to Varig for it's new route Sao Paulo-Beijing via Munich. Does anyone confirm that please??
 
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RE: United Disposing Of Some 777s?

Thu Jun 10, 2004 6:21 am

Is the Kenya Airway 772ER brand new, or is it an ex.UA772ER?
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RE: United Disposing Of Some 777s?

Thu Jun 10, 2004 6:27 am

it is a brand new airframe, Mike.
 
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RE: United Disposing Of Some 777s?

Thu Jun 10, 2004 6:49 am

What is the "asking price" How does it compare to list price?

If another airline flying 777 wanted to buy these (assuming same engines) would the be configured close enough to allow their pilots tolegally fly them would the confirguration be close enough to make it practical?
 
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RE: United Disposing Of Some 777s?

Thu Jun 10, 2004 11:18 am

It may be a sad event that such action is necessary, but anything that will assist United's dire situation will be a blessing. I hope for their sake that buyers can be found quickly, although some have been for sale for over 8months now (according to the planemart link).
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RE: United Disposing Of Some 777s?

Thu Jun 10, 2004 10:54 pm

"Looks like nine 737-500 are also due to leave September 11th of this year...

F L Y 7 7 7 U A L"


I herd its more like 20something in September.

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