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UA In Melbourne

Thu Jun 10, 2004 5:33 pm

After reading another topic of UA possibly reconsidering AKL, I was wondering what was the schedule like when UA flew AKL-MEL-AKL. Did they have similiar times to NZ and QF?
Also, when UA had the short lived LAX-MEL non-stops, did this operate daily? That would have meant doubling of capacity without the SYD stopover..
Also, what was the reason UA pulled the non-stops? I am quite sure this was due to some payload restriction/tail wind issue rather than a yield issue. If QF can make a success out of it, im surprised UA couldnt.

Thanks for your answers.
 
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RE: UA In Melbourne

Thu Jun 10, 2004 5:45 pm

The last Southern summer UA operated AKL-MEL was 2001-02 the flight left AKL at around 0950 and returned to AKL at around 1840, QF and NZ flights were usually earlier departures ex AKL and then an afternoon flight so UA weren't really in direct competition. Loads weren't great though on the 744, some days it was like 35-50 people.

UA did operate daily non-stop LAX-MEL from December 1999 to April 2001 with 744's!

Flights were pulled I believe due to severe weight restrictions I think they could carry 300 people max plus they also lost space in the hold aswell.

QF perservered and now operate the 744ER which eliminates all load and weight restrictions so they probably do pretty well!

 
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RE: UA In Melbourne

Thu Jun 10, 2004 7:31 pm

When UA switched to the 777 for AKL-LAX services, they ditched the onward leg to MEL and layed over in AKL till mid afternoon before returning to LAX.

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RE: UA In Melbourne

Thu Jun 10, 2004 8:07 pm

Does UA fly the 777 to AKL? Isn't there an ETOPS problem?
 
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RE: UA In Melbourne

Thu Jun 10, 2004 8:45 pm

They USED to fly the 777 AKL-LAX, but no longer fly to New Zealand.

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RE: UA In Melbourne

Fri Jun 11, 2004 5:52 pm

When they flew MEL-LAX non-stop they stopped the AKL-MEL leg aswell!

The AKL flight was in the NZ summer
STA AKL 0800
STD AKL 1530

Winter

STA AKL 0550
STD AKL 1330

The 772ER was NZ summer

STA AKL 0810
STD AKL 1830

Winter

STA AKL 0550
STD AKL 1830

Rather long layovers at those times.
 
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RE: UA In Melbourne

Sat Jun 12, 2004 1:41 am

Its too bad they don't do MEL-LAX non stop anymore. I just flew that route yesterday and its kind of a hasle to go through SYD. The QF direct took off about 20 minutes before we boarded and I really envied the passengers on that direct flight. Must have been more comfortable for the pax as well with more seats between for room to spread out. It was tight from SYD-LAX yesterday.

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