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MEA Voted "Best Airline Within The Middle East"

Sat Jun 12, 2004 3:10 am

.......and "Best Airline to Africa" according to a survey. Another survey ranked MEA's

CedarMiles frequent flyer program the second best among the world's top three international frequent flyer programs.

Below is the article from the June/July CedarWings issue:


MEA voted "Best Airline within the Middle East" and "Best Airline to Africa"

According to the Travel & Tourism Survey 2003, Middle East Travel and Al-Iktissad Wal-Aamal readers have voted Middle East Airlines as their favorite airline to travel within the Middle East and best airline to travel to Africa. The award-winning companies were announced in the Survey on Travel & Tourism implemented by Middle East Travel and Al-Iktissad Wal-Aamal magazines from May to December 2003.

Middle East Travel and Al-Iktissad Wal-Aamal have circulation in the MENA region, and Europe. Survey answers came from Saudi Arabia, UAE, Jordan, Qatar, Oman, Bahrian, Algeria, Tunisia, Morocco, Syria, Lebanon, Kuwait, and Egypt in addition to United Kingdom, France, and other destinations in Europe. Survey answers have been recieved from 1,364 top managerial positions, decision-makers, and executives who are regular travelers. The Awards Presentation Ceremony took place on May 22, 2004 at the Phoenicia InterContinental Hotel in Beirut, and Mr. Nizar Khoury, Head of Commercial, was presented with the award.

Here is the article about the Cedar Miles frequent flyer program:


MEA Cedar Miles program ranked second amongst the world's top three international frequent flyer programs by InsideFlyer magazine

Randy Petersen, publisher of InsideFlyer magazine, commended MEA for all the work it has done to make Cedar Miles one of the most attractive Frequent Flyer Programs in the region. He informed MEA that InsideFlyer magazine has completed the final audit of votes during this year's Freddie Awards, with over 277,000 voters, and that the Cedar Miles program ranked second of the top three finalists among international frequent flyer programs in the best rewards category.

Mr. Petersen congratulated MEA on this honor, nothing that many programs around the world would love to hold this position and that the efforts of the program and its staff have effectively communicated the program's value to its members.

Mrs. Ayla Dame, MEA Head of Customer Services, and Ms. Sawssan Kaissy, Manager of Cedar Miles, shared this award nomination with all the Cedar Miles management and MEA Call Center staff "who helped us in elevating the services of the program to unprecedented levels of customer recognition and services. In addition, we dedicate our success to all the Lebanese around the world who show unsurpassed loyalty towards their national carrier."

The 16th Annual Freddie Awards were held in New York City on 29 April 2004. InsideFlyer magazine reviews programs and organizations annually, looking for efforts it feels are deserving of being honored. These honors take the form of three special awards - the Distinguished Achievement Award, the Industry Impact Award and the Rising Star Award. The winners were announced during the Awards Ceremony.

Middle East Airlines (MEA) is the national carrier of the Republic of Lebanon serving 25 destinations from its Beirut hub with a fleet of 6 brand new Airbus A321-200 and 3 Airbus A330-200s in a comfortable two-class configuration having an average fleet age of less than a year making it the youngest fleet in the world.

MEA's A321-200s are equipped with 31 Cedar Class seats and 118 Economy Class seats for a total of 149 seats.
MEA's A330-200s are equipped with 42 Cedar Class seats and 202 Economy Class seats for a total of 250 seats.

Cedar Class features a comfortable 49" pitch, 10.4" personal TV screens, and laptop power supply. Satellite phones will be added to the fleet starting in July. Cedar Class passengers may enjoy MEA's Cedar Lounge at Beirut International Airport with a wonderful view of the tarmac and at lounges at all destinations served by MEA.

Economy Class features a comfortable 32" pitch and 6.8" personal TV screens.

On the A330, 8 video channels and 12 radio channels are provided in all classes all in Audio/Video and Demand (AVOD) system. On the A321, 5 video channels and 12 radio channels are provided in a normal broadcast format in all classes. AVOD service will be added to the Cedar Class of the A321s starting in July.

The A321s are powered by International Aero Engines (IAE) V2533-A5 turbofans producing 33,000lb. of thrust each.
The A330s are powered by Rolls-Royce Trent 772B turbofans producing 72,000lb. of thrust each.

With the new fleet, MEA introduced a new business class product named Cedar Class replacing the previous Front Class service. MEA also introduced a new Economy Class product. In addition, they introduced an aggressive new advertisement campaign all over Lebanon in magazines and billboard signs. Below is the magazine AD:


Below is the Cedar Class AD:


MEA maintains a partnership with Air France and Qatar Airways.

MEA code-shares on Air France's daily 777-200ER from Paris Charles de Gaulle. Together, the two airlines operate three daily flights from Paris Charles de Gaulle's Terminal 2F (MEA A321-200, MEA A330-200, Air France 777-200ER) conveniently timed for connections throughout Europe, Africa, and North and South America on Air France.

MEA code-shares on Qatar Airways' daily A320-200 flight from Doha providing convenient connections to the Far East on Qatar Airways.

MEA also maintains close cooperation and more than 80 interline agreements including Virgin Atlantic and Delta Air Lines.

MEA provides convenient connections from Europe to destinations in the Gulf through its Beirut hub and offers convenient overnight stopover packages in Beirut. MEA and MEA partners use Gates 13 to 23 in Beirut International Airport.

Cedar Miles members may also earn points on MEA's partners Air France and Qatar Airways. In March, MEA teamed up with Lebanon's largest bank, Banque Audi to introduce a credit card for earning MEA Cedar Miles. Two cards are offered, the Silver card and the Gold card. Check out the web page for more details including promotions. Currently double miles are being offered to Athens, Dubai, and Abu Dhabi until June 15.

For more information on MEA's Cedar Miles frequent flyer program, check out the official web page:
http://www.mea.com.lb/cedarmiles/index.htm

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Beirut International Airport was rated the best airport in the Middle East after Dubai Int'l by Skytrax.
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RE: MEA Voted "Best Airline Within The Middle East"

Sat Jun 12, 2004 3:38 am

What can I say, true class! And that Hisham's photo is excellent!

I always ask people's impressions of their flights with MEA and never hear anything negative, specially in these past few years.

BA,

Don't you think they will wet lease a plane by the end of the high summer season to cope with the high outbound traffic?
 
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RE: MEA Voted "Best Airline Within The Middle East"

Sat Jun 12, 2004 3:39 am

its me again!

can you tell me what makes the Cedar Program so great? is it that much different than others?

and is there really a laptop power supply in Cedar Class? i don't remember that being the case.

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RE: MEA Voted "Best Airline Within The Middle East"

Sat Jun 12, 2004 3:56 am

OD720,

Don't you think they will wet lease a plane by the end of the high summer season to cope with the high outbound traffic?

I don't think they will as it is probably too late now. It seems like they will stick with their 9 aircraft for the summer running them at the max.

AF022,

can you tell me what makes the Cedar Program so great? is it that much different than others?

Can't tell ya. I'm not a frequent flyer program expert.

and is there really a laptop power supply in Cedar Class? i don't remember that being the case.

Yep, I've seen them.

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RE: MEA Voted "Best Airline Within The Middle East"

Sat Jun 12, 2004 4:25 am

Thanks for bringing us the good news BA.
Some of my family members flew with MEA on the LHR-BEY sector in Cedar Class and were very impressed by the service onboard,IFE and their Lebanese Tourism booklets and DVDs.

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RE: MEA Voted "Best Airline Within The Middle East"

Sat Jun 12, 2004 4:59 am

Wet lease can be arranged on short notice for a short period of time. I know an FA and he says it's already hectic and they fear that a slight delay might cause real problems in the next few months.
 
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RE: MEA Voted "Best Airline Within The Middle East"

Sat Jun 12, 2004 8:45 pm

Keep us informed OD720.  Smile

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RE: MEA Voted "Best Airline Within The Middle East"

Sun Jun 13, 2004 11:54 am

A very impressive airline. I just hope that they adopt a far more interesting livery, although the fleet does look stunning in white with that green tree and multi-coloured MEA titles.
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RE: MEA Voted "Best Airline Within The Middle East"

Sun Jun 13, 2004 4:38 pm

I agree Propulsion.

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RE: MEA Voted "Best Airline Within The Middle East"

Sun Jun 13, 2004 4:44 pm

Best airline to Africa? with 5 destinations? That's almost like calling a domestic baseball competition the World Series.....

Can't argue that the press looks impressive though.
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RE: MEA Voted "Best Airline Within The Middle East"

Sun Jun 13, 2004 4:53 pm

Andz,

You don't have to serve a bunch of destinations to be the best.

Some of the best hotels in the world are 5-room bed & breakfast hotels in Paris.

All it means is voters found MEA to be the best carrier to go to Africa, meaning they enjoyed the service, comfort, amenities, etc. more than any other airline when they fly to Africa.

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RE: MEA Voted "Best Airline Within The Middle East"

Sun Jun 13, 2004 11:19 pm

Andz,

I kind of agree with you. However, I think the report meant MEA was voted as the best airline to serve Africa FROM the Middle East region NOT the best airline in the world to serve the continent.

BA,

First Welcome back! Have u had a chance to comment on MEA's A-321/330 amazing videos? Those videos are featured on the airline's German website; here they are again:

http://www.meagermany.de/webger/pagesger/specialoffers/news.htm

Also, does anyone have an idea why MEA has websites in English, German and Italian, but not in French? I quite curious to know to the reason...
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RE: MEA Voted "Best Airline Within The Middle East"

Mon Jun 14, 2004 4:48 am

Thanks EuroLeb. They're great videos.

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RE: MEA Voted "Best Airline Within The Middle East"

Mon Jun 14, 2004 2:07 pm

I love these threads on MEA!

The reason why?

The passion shown in talking about the airline. In threads I get route maps, advertising, aircraft pictures and a heap of information!

Due to these threads specifically, I know more about MEA than any other airline outside of Australia.

Well done! I wish there were more threads like this! Can't wait to fly MEA to Beirut sometime!

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RE: MEA Voted "Best Airline Within The Middle East"

Tue Jun 15, 2004 4:41 am

Glad to see its working ClassicLover.  Smile

MEA may be a small airline, but as I've always said, you don't need to be big to be of high quality. MEA doesn't get the recognition that it deserves.

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RE: MEA Voted "Best Airline Within The Middle East"

Tue Jun 15, 2004 4:41 am

Glad to see its working ClassicLover.  Smile

MEA may be a small airline, but as I've always said, you don't need to be big to be of high quality. MEA doesn't get the recognition that it deserves.

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RE: MEA Voted "Best Airline Within The Middle East"

Tue Jun 15, 2004 5:24 am

Survey is flawed as Israel was not included in the Middle East countries polled.

Possibly rename the survey, "Best Airline within the Arab Middle East"
 
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RE: MEA Voted "Best Airline Within The Middle East"

Tue Jun 15, 2004 6:06 am

Haveric, many, if not all, Arab carriers have the edge over EL AL (this has nothing to do with politics and all to do with product quality). Whether its EK, QR, EY (Etihad), GF, MS, RJ, ME and SV.
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RE: MEA Voted "Best Airline Within The Middle East"

Tue Jun 15, 2004 6:55 am

I agree with Horus,

EL AL is not a very good airline in terms of service and comfort. They spend a lot of their emphasis on security which in itself is a discomfort before even getting on the planes.

A lot of what I have heard about EL AL by Israelis and non-Israelis is bad. Aboard their planes, there isn't that warm welcoming feeling that you would otherwise see on world class carriers. Plus I heard their food is bad.

The only good thing I can say about EL AL is they have nice planes and a nice c/s. Otherwise, they stand no chance against most arab or asian carrier.
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RE: MEA Voted "Best Airline Within The Middle East"

Tue Jun 15, 2004 9:15 am

HORUS and MEA -- you both missed the point. The survey did not bother to survey flyers from Israel. As Israel is part of the Middle East, it was thus improperly left out of the survey area.

This is particularly important because many Israelis and visitors to Israel cannot fly the other airlines mentioned in the survey because they have an Israeli stamp in their passport.

This has nothing at all to do with the quality of El Al. You can't have a survey of the best airline in North America and leave out surveying Canadians juts because Air Canada is in bankruptcy...
 
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RE: MEA Voted "Best Airline Within The Middle East"

Tue Jun 15, 2004 4:20 pm

Haveric,

Read what the survey says again. It's talking about the best airline to fly within the Middle East. El Al doesn't have any Middle East destinations from its Tel Aviv hub except for its domestic flights which I think is only Eilat.
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RE: MEA Voted "Best Airline Within The Middle East"

Tue Jun 15, 2004 6:22 pm

El Al doesn't have any Middle East destinations from its Tel Aviv hub

Hmmm.. their website (www.elal.com) mentions one weekly service to CAI during Jun-Jul period.

18JUN 09JUL ....5.. 0050 (TLV) 0220 (CAI) LY 443 738/757/73G
20JUN 11JUL ......7 1940 (TLV) 2110 (CAI) LY 443 73G/738
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RE: MEA Voted "Best Airline Within The Middle East"

Tue Jun 15, 2004 6:31 pm

Sleak76,

Yes, but Egypt isn't considered part of the Middle East. It's considered part of North Africa.

However since Egypt is quite similar along with the other Middle Eastern countries, the term MENA region has been used often lately which stands for "Middle East & North Africa."

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RE: MEA Voted "Best Airline Within The Middle East"

Tue Jun 15, 2004 6:32 pm

Sleak76,

Yes, but Egypt isn't considered part of the Middle East. It's considered part of North Africa.

However since Egypt is quite similar along with the other Middle Eastern countries, the term MENA region has been used often lately which stands for "Middle East & North Africa."

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RE: MEA Voted "Best Airline Within The Middle East"

Tue Jun 15, 2004 6:34 pm

BA, Egypt is considered a part of the Middle East as well as North Africa.

Sleak76, their timetable show 2x weekly flights. One is usually with 737-700 and the other 757-200.
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RE: MEA Voted "Best Airline Within The Middle East"

Tue Jun 15, 2004 6:37 pm

Horus,

As I stated, Egypt is considered part of the MENA region which stands for Middle East & North Africa. However it by itself is not in the Middle East, it's in the Africa. However since Egypt is very similar with the Middle East countries, the term MENA is often used to include it.

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RE: MEA Voted "Best Airline Within The Middle East"

Tue Jun 15, 2004 6:41 pm

Middle East doesn't have real borders so the interpretation of this region may vary slightly.

I don't know if Egypt is physically in the Middle East but is usually referred to as a Middle Eastern country.
 
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RE: MEA Voted "Best Airline Within The Middle East"

Tue Jun 15, 2004 6:42 pm

BA, without turning this into another Lotus debate, Egypt is considered a part of the Middle East. But it is true that there is some confusion about which countries make up the Middle East as it is not an 'official' region/continent.
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RE: MEA Voted "Best Airline Within The Middle East"

Tue Jun 15, 2004 6:48 pm

Horus,

We had this debate in Geography class. It is considered part of the MENA region, but not the Middle East.

A quick search on Google brings this:


Unfortunately we are going to have to agree to disagree.
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RE: MEA Voted "Best Airline Within The Middle East"

Tue Jun 15, 2004 6:59 pm

Here is another map too



from www.world.yale.edu/graduates/graphics/middle_east.jpg


So I guess like you said we have to agree to disagree  Big thumbs up
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RE: MEA Voted "Best Airline Within The Middle East"

Tue Jun 15, 2004 7:02 pm

BA

True its part of MENA just like Syria is part of what is called the Levant countries (but is still part of the middle east). Egypt is considered part of the middle east as well. Though its location is Northern Africa, and located on the African continent, it belongs to the Middle East classification when the word Middle East is used. Otherwise, it belongs with MENA if the latter classification is used.

National Geographic says:
http://www.nationalgeographic.com/xpeditions/atlas/index.html?Parent=mideast&Rootmap=&Mode=b&SubMode=w

The United Nations says:
http://www.un.org/Depts/Cartographic/map/profile/mideastr.pdf

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RE: MEA Voted "Best Airline Within The Middle East"

Tue Jun 15, 2004 7:13 pm

BA

...term MENA is often used to include it

Incorrect. MENA is used when the whole Northern Africa is included, as your original post shows. Countries like Tunisia, Morocco, Algiers, etc. When those countries are included then it becomes MENA since the latter countries are not part of the Middle East. However, as the UN and National Geographic maps show, if its only ME then only Egypt from Norther Africa is included due to close cultural ties, or as you said, BA: "since Egypt is very similar with the Middle East countries".

Horus.. you're right.. it is double weekly. My mistake  Smile

Cheers to all and I do hope this doesn't turn into another Geographical lesson  Big grin
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RE: MEA Voted "Best Airline Within The Middle East"

Tue Jun 15, 2004 9:18 pm

BA, regardless of whether Egypt is in the Middle East, the survey should have included Israel, regardless of where its national carrier flies to. It is a country in the Middle East that was obviously left out of a survey, without any good explanation. El Al and Arkia are both Middle East carrier and both service Africa (one of the survey areas) as well as the Middle East (I don't see the relevance of domestic routes only).

This survey means nothing because it inexplicably did not survey what it says it surveyed!
 
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RE: MEA Voted "Best Airline Within The Middle East"

Tue Jun 15, 2004 10:09 pm

BA and Horus,
Haveric's point was the relevance and reputation of such surveys. You have dozens and dozens of surveys all around the world, which may or may not reflect the reality, depending on how the survey is structured. This doesn't mean that MEA is not a good airline, but the fact that some airlines were maybe left out of the survey by accident or intentionally might affect the results in a desired way.

I personally consider Skytrax as the most credible, also thanks to number of passengers voting.
 
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RE: MEA Voted "Best Airline Within The Middle East"

Tue Jun 15, 2004 10:11 pm

this is so boring. another great thread that degenerates into blather.

why didn't EK score well? is it because their intra-MENA flights aren't that great?
 
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RE: MEA Voted "Best Airline Within The Middle East"

Wed Jun 16, 2004 3:59 am

Fine Haveric, I'm going to give you a straight forward answer.

I was hoping it wasn't going to have to come to this.

Haveric, I don't know what the intentions of your post was, but I know that you know the reason why El Al was excluded from the survey.

If you really read the article, you would have known that the survey was conducted by two Arab travel magazines. As I'm sure you know, the Arab world does not recognize Israel's right to exist. It's plain and simple whether you like it or not. And I know you knew the reason which is why I question the intention of your post?

It's simple, take it or leave it. If you don't like the survey then just ignore it.

I hope you are not trying to bring politics into this thread......

L410Turbolet,

I personally consider Skytrax as the most credible, also thanks to number of passengers voting.

Believe me, I love Skytrax and I check it on an at least weekly basis. There is no doubt that Skytrax is a wonderful and extremely credible source.

However, Skytrax mostly focuses on the larger more popular airlines, which is great. I think it would be very very difficult to conduct a survey on every single airline in the world and in every category possible. So I am not in any way criticizing it.

This is why I believe other surveys in addition to Skytrax such as this one are important as well.

this is so boring. another great thread that degenerates into blather.

I agree.........I wish I didn't make this post now....

why didn't EK score well? is it because their intra-MENA flights aren't that great?

There is no doubt that EK is a great airline, but I believe they are way over-rated and even my family members who fly on them a lot believe they are over-rated. My uncle flies the BEY-DXB-BEY segment several times a year (for business and family reasons) and has tried both EK and MEA numerous times. He prefers MEA by far and always tries to get on MEA. But MEA is often full way in advance and as a result is often forced to fly on EK. Not that he is complaining. He said both are fantastic, but found MEA to be a little better on the route.

Either way, I have heard numerous times that the service on their intra-MENA flights does not even compare with their Europe and Asia flights. Perhaps it's because they know that not a lot of foreigners will fly on their intra-MENA flights so they slack off and focus on having their world-reknowned service on their Europe and Asia flights (and now North America).

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RE: MEA Voted "Best Airline Within The Middle East"

Wed Jun 16, 2004 4:36 am

i totally agree EK is over-rated, but the traveling public is like pavlov's dog, slobbering all over EK.

i thought is was sacreligous to not put EK on the top of every MENA survey.
 
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RE: MEA Voted "Best Airline Within The Middle East"

Wed Jun 16, 2004 4:54 am

Congratulations MEA.

The pride you have is amply evident in all the postings on A.net and obviously carries through in your work. Well done.


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RE: MEA Voted "Best Airline Within The Middle East"

Wed Jun 16, 2004 5:18 am

I see.... if I point out an obvious flaw with the survey, then I'm bringing politics into the thread?

It should be renamed Arab-only Airline Survey, or something to that effect.

IMHO, it's sad how the Arab countries won't even include Israel in its survey of their airlines. They could learn something.
 
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RE: MEA Voted "Best Airline Within The Middle East"

Wed Jun 16, 2004 6:02 am

Haveric,

Do you think that we here in the US would include Cubana in a survey of North American airlines? I highly doubt it. I, for one, understand your point, and will take that into consideration when looking at this survey, but I also think that the survey, whether you agree with the naming of it or not, does give a good depiction of how Middle Easterners rate airline services.

BA,

I've always wanted to visit Lebanon, and when I do, I'll make sure to give MEA a try. I'm sure I'll be very happy with their service!

 
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RE: MEA Voted "Best Airline Within The Middle East"

Wed Jun 16, 2004 8:50 am

Let me say something here......Mr Haveric

It's often that you see surveys done supposedly in North America but the reality is that they would only include the US and not Canada.

They say.. Canada is too small to have an influence on the results. Well, how could a small tiny Israel change the results of the arab middle east public???
 
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RE: MEA Voted "Best Airline Within The Middle East"

Wed Jun 16, 2004 10:58 am

Please, my dad is Mr. Haveric. You can just call me "H"

Well, those surveys that say "north america" and leave out Canada are then clearly wrong, I never said otherwise.

Do you have any examples??
 
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RE: MEA Voted "Best Airline Within The Middle East"

Wed Jun 16, 2004 4:49 pm

UA744KSFO,

I'm sure you'll have a great time in Lebanon and on MEA.

Haveric,

The point is you knew the reason why Israel was excluded from the survey, so why were you asking why it was excluded? Correct me if I'm wrong, but it sounds like a way to stir up trouble.

Either way, as Yegbey01 said, one small little country that is boycotted by the rest of the Middle East is not really going to affect the survey.

The fact that they are boycotted by the other Middle Eastern countries makes El Al not a good candidate for the "best airline for flying within the Middle East" survey.
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RE: MEA Voted "Best Airline Within The Middle East"

Wed Jun 16, 2004 4:54 pm

this is the most ridiculous discussion i have ever seen in my life.

this survey could have been "best airline within the solar system" and it still would have been MEA.






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RE: MEA Voted "Best Airline Within The Middle East"

Sat Jun 19, 2004 3:01 pm

So is MEA going to wet-lease or not? whats it going to be A321 or A330
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RE: MEA Voted "Best Airline Within The Middle East"

Sat Jun 19, 2004 3:36 pm

ToBEYwithMEA,

They will do so if they see the need. I think they will need one by end of August and September.
 
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RE: MEA Voted "Best Airline Within The Middle East"

Sat Jun 19, 2004 6:14 pm

BA,
my point is that your excitement about MEA is great, however seems to be somewhat childishly uncritical.

I am a fan of CSA. CSA got some "Airline of the Year" award by the BAA last year. Great news, but the significance of the award is very limited and says very little about the airline as a whole. No big deal.

It's really sad that politics gets dragged into ABSOLUTELY everything in the Middle East - even into how much people like sitting in a flying metal tube...

The fact that they are boycotted by the other Middle Eastern countries makes El Al not a good candidate for the "best airline for flying within the Middle East" survey.

This statement is a proof of it. Is it El Al's fault that it gets boycotted or rather says something about those who boycott it?
It's not about whether EL AL is the best or not or whether it would stand a realistic chance to be voted "the best".
Simply because the survey is manipulated and biased from the very beginning by eliminating certain airlines on grounds of politics, makes the whole survey worthless and marginal.
 
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RE: MEA Voted "Best Airline Within The Middle East"

Sun Jun 20, 2004 9:45 am

L410turbolet,

You said the following:

"Simply because the survey is manipulated and biased from the very beginning by eliminating certain airlines on grounds of politics, makes the whole survey worthless and marginal."

I think you have the wrong choice of words, if I may say. Manipulated and biased survey? I don't think so. In fact, the only city that El-Al serves in the Middle East is Cairo. Not only that, but also this service is seasonal as far as I know! So, what's the big deal? You have to remember that the survey was done for intra Mid-Eastern routes only. For you, the survey may be "worthless" and "marginal". However, the facts definitely state otherwise!
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RE: MEA Voted "Best Airline Within The Middle East"

Sun Jun 20, 2004 10:01 am

Not only that, but also this service is seasonal as far as I know!

Euroleb, EL AL's services to CAI are year round and vary between 2-4 weekly flights (737/757/767). They also have charter flights to Taba.
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RE: MEA Voted "Best Airline Within The Middle East"

Mon Jun 21, 2004 7:22 am

According to the Travel & Tourism Survey 2003, Middle East Travel and Al-Iktissad Wal-Aamal readers have voted Middle East Airlines as their favorite airline to travel within the MIDDLE EAST and best airline to travel to AFRICA...

EuroLeb, is Cairo, Nairobi and Johannesburg still not enough destinations in Africa for you? My English is far from perfect, but I'd still consider this survey as "manipulated" and "biased" since someone decided upfront to omit El Al from the survey for reasons other than factual since El Al is serving African/Middle Eastern destination, is it not?
It's shortsighted from the participating airlines not to object against El Al being left out of the survey in the first place. The survey would only benefit from it, due to increased credibility of the survey and the winner would be able to say that it is the best from ALL airlines in the Middle East.
The way it is, it's only a very sad example of how Arabs politicize everything that even remotely involves Israel.