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History Of UA Hawaii Inter-Island Service?

Sun Jun 13, 2004 10:43 am

Just ran across a picture of a United 732 at Lihue in the seventies. What is the history of the former UA Hawaii Inter-Island service?
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RE: History Of UA Hawaii Inter-Island Service?

Sun Jun 13, 2004 11:21 am

You mean this picture?


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UA never had any Hawaii 732 interisland service. This obviously is an aircraft on short term lease.

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RE: History Of UA Hawaii Inter-Island Service?

Sun Jun 13, 2004 12:18 pm

UA ran DC10 interisland service back in the late 80s.
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RE: History Of UA Hawaii Inter-Island Service?

Sun Jun 13, 2004 12:21 pm

Not sure if they still do, but UA did offer inter-island flights, sometimes a continuation of a LAX/SFO flight to HNL. Nowadays, UA flies direct to some of the "other islands" such as SFO-LIH, SFO-OGG, SFO-KOA, LAX-LIH, LAX-OGG, LAX-KOA.

In 1990, I flew on a DC-10 between HNL and LIH. UA also used DC-10's on HNL-OGG flights, and HNL-Hilo flights. I believe Kona, as well.

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RE: History Of UA Hawaii Inter-Island Service?

Sun Jun 13, 2004 4:13 pm

AQ used to have short term leases for aircraft from other 732 operators. There are also pictures of WN 732s in Hawaii. Plus, you can see the AQ titles on the fuselage and the remarks say it is a short term lease from UA.


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BTW, UA never had any real interisland service. Any interisland flights were add-ons due to demand or aircraft/runway limitations. UA had plans to start interisland service in the early 90's but was dropped when everyone opposed their entry. Local residents, govt officials, and legislators didn't want to see UA push out AQ/HA out of the market and AQ/HA didn't want to competition.
 
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RE: History Of UA Hawaii Inter-Island Service?

Mon Jun 14, 2004 2:19 am

That airplane, I think it was N9049U, was leased by Aloha. I flew on it from OGG to HNL. It was not operated by UA.
 
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RE: History Of UA Hawaii Inter-Island Service?

Mon Jun 14, 2004 2:21 am

Sorry, I just blew up the picture, it was N9029U, not 49. Sorry, but I flew on it over there, one time, in 1975 or 76
 
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RE: History Of UA Hawaii Inter-Island Service?

Mon Jun 14, 2004 2:43 am

AQ also leased a 732 from Eastern Provincial Airways (Canada) back in the late 70's.

UA's "inter-island service" was just a means of extending the flight beyond HNL to the Neighbor Islands. As mentioned earlier, UA now flies direct to the Neighbor Islands with 752s and 767s.
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RE: History Of UA Hawaii Inter-Island Service?

Mon Jun 14, 2004 2:46 am

I also believe that was a lease A/C to Aloha. However back in the 1970's and 1980's United used to fly DC8-61's and DC-10's into LIH. They were at very light gross weight flying to and from HNL, nevertheless I had the opportunity to watch a DC8-61 land on 6,000ft. Runway 35 one windy atypical early evening. He was perhaps a "slight" bit past Vref and used his thrust reversers for all they were worth, past the high speed exit, nearly to the far threshold. Exciting. But in all the years they flew heavy aircraft into little Lihue, I never heard of an overrun or any incident except for a blown tire or two.

Does anyone have any photos of DC-8's or DC-10's at LIH?
 
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RE: History Of UA Hawaii Inter-Island Service?

Mon Jun 14, 2004 3:12 am

I once flew on a UA DC-10 from HNL to KOA. Our DL flight from DFW to HNL was delayed, so we missed our AQ connection to KOA and they rebooked us on the UA flight. It was nearly empty--as has been stated above, UA didn't really operate an "interisland" service, but merely tags on its mainland to HNL flights. In my case the DC-10 had come in from LAX.

On the topic of AQ 737s on short-term lease, back in 1991 I had the unusual experience of flying on a 737-204, registered G-BADP, from KOA to HNL. It was painted in Britannia colors with Aloha titles and the name "Kaleleonala I." The Britannia logo on the tail was painted over, but otherwise there was no mistaking it--the interior was all Britannia, right down to the seatbelt buckles. It was around Christmas, so I assume it was leased to provide extra lift over the holidays--or perhaps for the whole winter season.
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