lorenz
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Continental's First Flight To Oslo...

Tue Jun 15, 2004 2:52 am

Hello,

Can anbody in the States, pref. from Continental confirm that the company WILL start up the OSL service from 17th June - from Newark?

The routing is as follows;

17JUN04 EWR 20:00 - ARR 18JUN04 OSL 0945

The flight is located both in Amadeus and on OSL official homepages, but not on the COA website's timetable search..

Anyone

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RE: Continental's First Flight To Oslo...

Tue Jun 15, 2004 3:22 am

I've seen it on CO's web page. The funny thing is that they state the equip. to be a 752. Uhm...

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RE: Continental's First Flight To Oslo...

Tue Jun 15, 2004 3:24 am

I've seen it on CO's web page. The funny thing is that they state the equip. to be a 752. Uhm...

Uuhm, funny? Maybe they state the equipment to be a 752 because they WILL fly a 757-200 to Oslo?!  Laugh out loud
 
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RE: Continental's First Flight To Oslo...

Tue Jun 15, 2004 3:32 am

AFAIK, CO plans to operate the 752 EWR-OSL. I've never heard anything else even reasonably speculated.

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RE: Continental's First Flight To Oslo...

Tue Jun 15, 2004 3:39 am

Why not the 764 to OSL? Much better choise IMO.
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RE: Continental's First Flight To Oslo...

Tue Jun 15, 2004 3:44 am

Why not the 764 to OSL? Much better choise IMO.

Could be related to the possibility that the demand on this route does rather justify the usage of a smaller airplane like the 762 or (as in this case) the 752?  Nuts

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RE: Continental's First Flight To Oslo...

Tue Jun 15, 2004 3:47 am

Because there is not enough demand on that route for a 764 as CO is using them on routes with a lot more business travel.

Regarding the 752. CO is making tons of money with them to smaller European destinations.
Please do not start a discussion about narrowbodies on transatlantic flights. It has been discussed to death.
 
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RE: Continental's First Flight To Oslo...

Tue Jun 15, 2004 3:48 am

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AFAIK, CO plans to operate the 752 EWR-OSL. I've never heard anything else even reasonably speculated.
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Yes, they will start up eventually. The big Q is, will they start up on the planned date of June 18th, as stated in the press release earlier.

The weird thing is that there are no departures from EWR to OSL on the evening 17th June.. And AFAIK the plane is fully booked inbound OSL..

Flt numbers are COA038/039 if anyone can check it out - thanks!

 
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RE: Continental's First Flight To Oslo...

Tue Jun 15, 2004 3:51 am

Not intrested in SWE-BUL game!
Hell, they might as well take the 738 over the pond....
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RE: Continental's First Flight To Oslo...

Tue Jun 15, 2004 4:17 am

Continental have chose the right aircraft for the route, if the loads are great, then next summer you rwill see an upgrade. Where ever the 752 can reach, ,CO will use it. I think thet 752 might just be right on the route. I hope it does well
 
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RE: Continental's First Flight To Oslo...

Tue Jun 15, 2004 4:29 am

If you go to continental.com you will see CO38 is in the schedule for 6/17 with an 8:00PM departure arriving in OSL at 9:45AM. Why would you question whether or not the service will start? There has been no indication anywhere that would make one think otherwise. CO even announced it again in a press release for their summer schedule last week. As for the 757 it is a fine aircraft for the route until it becomes more established.
 
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RE: Continental's First Flight To Oslo...

Tue Jun 15, 2004 4:30 am

A bit out of date maybe

Do share with us:
how exactly is operating an ETOPS routing on an aircraft whose breakeven point is the lowest in their transoceanic fleet... "a bit out of date"?


Concorde-Boy, I think Solnabo was referring to the timing of your reply...which doesn´t make his post any more valuable, I have to add.

On topic: I hope CO will do well with this flight. Offering 757 services to "thinner" destinations like OSL is better than offering no service at all (at least from a passenger´s point of view). Those who permanently want to fly on a 744, 777 or A340 may do so by booking other flights.
 
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RE: Continental's First Flight To Oslo...

Tue Jun 15, 2004 4:34 am

they might as well take the 738 over the pond

CO has contemplated and decided against opping any 737s transatlantically
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RE: Continental's First Flight To Oslo...

Tue Jun 15, 2004 4:59 am

What I found funny with flying the 752 to OSL, was that I was expecting to see a 767 or so...is that illegal to think? I'm just not used to seeing a 757 cross the pond...I guess I'm not such a sovereign aviation freak...........  Insane

9V-SPF - I am actually watching the game at the same time, and we're doing pretty okay so far.

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RE: Continental's First Flight To Oslo...

Tue Jun 15, 2004 5:09 am

I´m sorry.....had a bad day today, slightly p---d off at everything!! *lol*
Dont care if CO fly a Shorts or a blipper over the pond  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

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RE: Continental's First Flight To Oslo...

Tue Jun 15, 2004 5:18 am

What's up, Micke? Did something bad happen to Airbus?  Big grin Skojar bara, din bäver. Although...I'd like to se NW fly a DC9 across the pond. Big grin Couldn't resist.

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RE: Continental's First Flight To Oslo...

Tue Jun 15, 2004 5:32 am

COA has told the airport handling companies that their regular operations will be operated with the B757-200/ET. But they also have incl. B767-400 and 777-200, depending on the "market" during the Summer.

And ARN folks, dont be dissapointed, you guys got Malasian 777-200 coming during Winter 04/05!
 
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RE: Continental's First Flight To Oslo...

Tue Jun 15, 2004 5:33 am

It´s okay, JuniorSpotter, I didn´t mean to offend you. Well done to the swedish football team btw.  Smile
 
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RE: Continental's First Flight To Oslo...

Tue Jun 15, 2004 6:11 am

But ConcordeBoy... then shouldn't your signature be translated for the benefit of those that do not read French? *tisk* *tisk*

But back on topic... I didn't even know CO was starting service to OSL. How nice... finally an American carrier returning to Scandinavia. Now just to wait for a West Coast-Scandinavia (not including Denmark) service Big grin

[Edited 2004-06-14 23:12:31]
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RE: Continental's First Flight To Oslo...

Tue Jun 15, 2004 10:22 am

Just because SAS can't compete on this route. You Swedes don't have to be so upset about it.
BA been flying Trans-Atlantic with B752 for a number of years now.
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RE: Continental's First Flight To Oslo...

Tue Jun 15, 2004 11:48 am

CO Flight 38...SA - New Jersey">EWR-OSL... on June 16 loads are as follows:

First: 16/16 (however they all appear to be SA)">CO employees riding on PS or SA)
Coach: 150/156 with only 9 or so being Non-Revs


SA)">CO Flight 39... OSL-SA - New Jersey">EWR... on June 17 loads are as follows:

First: 10/16 (2 Non-revs)
Coach: 152/156 (4 non-revs)

Basically both aircraft will be essentially full

EDIT: anyone know why the post is all messed up?

[Edited 2004-06-15 04:52:55]
 
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RE: Continental's First Flight To Oslo...

Tue Jun 15, 2004 3:51 pm

Yes, Continental Airlines first flight to Oslo - Gardermoen (OSL) will arrive on Friday morning @ 09:45am  Smile

Hopefully, this route will do well as long as SAS stay out of the way (I can't see that happen unfortunately.....). Maybe we can have the B767 eventually, thinking of increased cargo capacity between Norway and the U.S.
 
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RE: Continental's First Flight To Oslo...

Tue Jun 15, 2004 5:46 pm

Hi

No offence intended, but I am fairly surprised that CO are even flying to OSL, even if it is "only" with a 757. Do people think this route will be a success? It will certainly be interesting to see what happens; very unusual to see a US carrier in Scandinavia these days.

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RE: Continental's First Flight To Oslo...

Tue Jun 15, 2004 6:09 pm

Scandinavia has 20 million people (e.g. same as Australia), so it is about time we have an American carrier here again  Big grin There are also close relations between Scandinavia and America historically and economically!
 
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RE: Continental's First Flight To Oslo...

Tue Jun 15, 2004 7:52 pm

Sweden contributes with engineparts from Volvo Aero and a frame to the wings from SAAB to Airbus!
Pbb: U got no humor att all whatsoever! The writing in swedish was a JOKE  Insane

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RE: Continental's First Flight To Oslo...

Tue Jun 15, 2004 10:12 pm

And from what I've heard CO plans a 3 weekly service during the winter periode. Operating the folowing days: 1-5-7
 
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RE: Continental's First Flight To Oslo...

Wed Jun 16, 2004 12:17 am


CO has been flying 757s across the Atlantic for almost 10 years now, they have been very successful and profitable for the airline.

Business travelers will always prefer a nonstop to a connection, and with their 757s CO is able to offer nonstops across the Atlantic that other airlines would not be able to such as..

Edinburgh, Oslo, Birmingham UK.

They have also been flying 757s to Lisbon and Shannon Ireland for many years, both very succesful flights.
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RE: Continental's First Flight To Oslo...

Wed Jun 16, 2004 12:20 am

Just because SAS can't compete on this route. You Swedes don't have to be so upset about it.
BA been flying Trans-Atlantic with B752 for a number of years now.

SAS can compete on this route. They were the only airline for many years running the route on a regular basis. So, technically they had NO competition. They have pulled out of the route, because the business just isn't what SAS wants out of it. They try not to operate routes unless they are heavy with business travelers, and Oslo has been inconsistent. The summer months were great for the usual tourist travel and the winter months really dropped off and SAS reduced the schedule. After 9/11 they decided to drop the route all together. I'm guessing with the 3 country split of SAS, the Norwegian government will insist upon a transatlantic route to serve their Country. A few years ago, Norway threatened to sell their stake in SAS because they didn't have a transatlantic route. (actually it was one of many reasons).
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RE: Continental's First Flight To Oslo...

Wed Jun 16, 2004 1:34 am

SAS may have been the only airline running the route, but they were clearly not able to make it work profitably recently, or they'd still be running it. I think the big problem was that the A330 (-300?) they were using for the route was simply too big during all but the busiest periods, and having non-stop service that only runs a few days a week isn't terribly attractive to business travelers. By operating the 757 to EWR, CO minimizes the number of seats they may have to dump on the market at low fares and can take advantage of the broad range of connecting opportunities available at its EWR hub.
 
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RE: Continental's First Flight To Oslo...

Wed Jun 16, 2004 1:39 am

CO seems to start almost all their new routes on a 752 for the first year or so. GLA, EDI, OSL, MAN amongst others all started at 752s, EDI and OSL as it is a brand new route will remain so until atleast next summer.
MAN and GLA have already been upgraded after starting as 752.
 
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RE: Continental's First Flight To Oslo...

Wed Jun 16, 2004 2:02 am

I think its great that CO coming to OSL. Just hope that all you Norweigans use this flight instead of going with KLM or BA to USA.
I'm not upset, even being a Swede, we have a daily A333 from ARN-EWR and rumor is telling that CO may be will code share with MH on the leg between ARN-EWR (if the flight will start later this year). And Solnabo, keep it down a little - please!
 
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RE: Continental's First Flight To Oslo...

Wed Jun 16, 2004 6:55 am

Do anybody know if SAS Airbus 321 can make it from Oslo to New York?
I know they have talked about outpace the 321 operations, but maybe they should put this A/C on the Osl-Nyc route?
 
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RE: Continental's First Flight To Oslo...

Wed Jun 16, 2004 7:18 am

BA been flying Trans-Atlantic with B752 for a number of years now

...BA hasn't flown TransAtlantic with a 752 for a number of years now.
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RE: Continental's First Flight To Oslo...

Sat Jun 19, 2004 12:05 pm

Speaking of COs 757, they are launching the B757 Winglet Program with Aviation Partners Boeing. Eleven 738s and eleven 752s will be initially fitted with options for more!

They predict a 5 to 10 % increase in operating performance which could mean linking EWR with other slightly longer city pairs that are not currently within the 757s range.

Similar to the 762, 752 is an ideal start up route builder and one can only assume CO's got some other destinations planned where there is no U.S. carrier presence other than with code share.

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