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Help Me Understand This Delta Move

Tue Feb 15, 2000 6:55 am

Delta Air Lines today announced new 767-300 service between Hartford and JFK -- a whopping 100-mile flight.

The flight number continues on to Paris, but a change of plane is needed.

As a Connecticut resident, I'm all for more flights to Hartford. But in the time it takes to catch this flight and wait at JFK for European connections, you could drive to JFK.

Current connections involve Jetstream 41 commuters. Instead of these or the 767-300, why not replace them with regional jets coming into the DL network?

Anyway, why would Delta commit a 767-300 to this route considering the distance is so small?
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RE: Help Me Understand This Delta Move

Tue Feb 15, 2000 6:58 am

My guess is that this aircraft would have just been sitting around anyway and that DL is now running VERY low on gate space in the afternoon/evening at JFK. It looks like theres a Delta 767-300 factory pumping those things out around the corner at 4/5/6PM at JFK!
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RE: Help Me Understand This Delta Move

Tue Feb 15, 2000 8:00 am

I think FlyAA is right....Delta needs to get that 767 out of the why not send it on a little jaunt up to BDL (a fine airport might I add....the first time I ever flew was from BDL). It does seem wasteful and I bet it won't last for too long. Once other planes come on line, Delta will probably do some shuffling of aircraft.
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RE: Help Me Understand This Delta Move

Tue Feb 15, 2000 8:14 am

I would say that DL is using this flight to reposition the aircraft for the Europe trip. AA does the same thing..although not on such a short distance. Since the aircraft needs to go from BDL to JFK, why not offer it as revenue service and market it as a onestop to Europe rather than send it as a ferry flight?
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RE: Help Me Understand This Delta Move

Tue Feb 15, 2000 8:49 am

Boston could use another. Currently, we have a 4:30 shuttle to LGA, 5:00 763 ER to JFK and a 72S to LGA at 5:30. The 763 goes to AMS (against NWA). I say the flight should go to BOS, then to JFK, then to Europe (Paris???)


RE: Help Me Understand This Delta Move

Tue Feb 15, 2000 9:49 am

I tend to agree with "CannedSpam". When I worked Res. for DL many years ago we had a late night L-1011 fly in to CVG (I think from ATL and it was nearly full every night) during the fall and winter months. Then the a/c laid over in CVG and went out with perhaps a 25% load factor to ORD around 08:00 the next day. But, from O'Hare, it went out chock full to PBI at around 0930.

It seemed to make no sense at all; we always thought why not operate that L10 ATL-ORD at night? We thought surely a late-night ATL-ORD L10 would make just as much money (maybe more) as ATL-CVG.

I guess DL figured if the a/c had to lay over somewhere why not make it CVG (so long as you could fill it up on that leg), put in on the short hop to ORD early the next morning (popular business run but not enough to fill all 302 seats on the L10 in those days) and make some more money? However, given the loads on that CVG-ORD run it seemed like any incremental revenue would have been offset by fuel/crew expenses and landing fees.


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