aa777jr
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NWA Flights From MSP

Wed Jun 16, 2004 7:43 am

I will never ever fly NWA again, I am so tired of the consistent delays due to weather from the NWA hubs in the Northwest...what a joke. They don't even do a damn thing to ease your pain. Flying around MSP, running out of fuel, diverting to Deluth (where the hell is this place) to get more fuel, to fly around MSP some more?!?!? Unbelievable!!! Anyone wanna buy 70k World Perk miles cheap? =)
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aviatortj
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RE: NWA Flights From MSP

Wed Jun 16, 2004 7:55 am

Gee, we all know that AA NEVER-EVER diverts their flights. NWA really should get on the ball here. They had that DC-9 pilot last year who tried to land during the tornado, and GOT IN TROUBLE!! He should have been promoted for the on-time arrival.

Second of all, it is Duluth (DLH)! There is a NWA MX base there. Even still, NW should have given you 10k miles because of the consistent bad weather in the Mid-West. You should be glad they didn't outright cancel your flight. What airline gives credit or additional perks for weather in the US. Hmmmm...none??

[Edited 2004-06-16 01:04:12]
 
PSU.DTW.SCE
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RE: NWA Flights From MSP

Wed Jun 16, 2004 8:02 am

Buddy, every airline deals with this mess, its thunderstorm season, you have to deal with it. MSP and DTW are a heck of a lot better than other places like...ORD, PHL, LGA, EWR where they clog up at the slightest drop of rain anywhere east of the Mississippi River it seems.
 
N670UW
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RE: NWA Flights From MSP

Wed Jun 16, 2004 8:07 am

The thing is, that same thing would have happened at any midwestern hub with thunderstorms: ORD (especially), DTW, CLE, CVG, STL, etc. You can't blame the airline for the weather. It's dangerous to fly in severe weather, so delays happen. It's not necessarily NW's, or any airline's, for that matter, fault.

BTW, Duluth is in northeastern Minnesota along Lake Superior.


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aviatortj
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RE: NWA Flights From MSP

Wed Jun 16, 2004 8:09 am

Assuming this was on or near your day, check this thread out. You were not so special. There were a few other flights from other airlines that diverted too. Just be glad you didn't end up in North Dakota.

http://www.airliners.net/discussions/general_aviation/read.main/1608335/
 
filejw
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RE: NWA Flights From MSP

Wed Jun 16, 2004 8:17 am

Buddy, There should be pilotless airline just for you that goes thru everything hail, windshear, tornado 's and has a 95 % completion rate.The rest land short...In the woods.
 
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RE: NWA Flights From MSP

Wed Jun 16, 2004 8:22 am

I had 2 delays on a 3 day trip. One in DFW and EWR, both due to thunderstorms. You're fortunes could be worse. Passengers were ok about it.
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iowaman
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RE: NWA Flights From MSP

Wed Jun 16, 2004 9:13 am

Would you rather fly out of ORD and literally have a 10x better chance of delays on AA or UA??? I don't think you should complain. MSP rarely has delays while ORD has constant delays.
 
AIR757200
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RE: NWA Flights From MSP

Wed Jun 16, 2004 9:21 am


delays due to weather

You may want to send a letter to the weather gods or something, complaining about Northwest won't help since they do not control the weather. Get it?
 
SR 103
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RE: NWA Flights From MSP

Wed Jun 16, 2004 9:27 am

Wow, that sounds horrible. Please don't fly Northworst again. I mean they should have just landed in horrible weather risking yours and everyone else's life just so that the plane could get to the ground on time. We all know this does not happen with quality airlines such as American especially with hubs in DFW and ORD, planes are never diverted.

Also for a future pilot, (that's what is in your profile) I would have expected more level headed thinking.

Either way, please don't fly Northworst again. I think all of us loyal NW flyers deserve to fly in peace and quiet without some hostile maniac next to us ranting on about how the airline is responsible for the weather.

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DTWINTLFLYER
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RE: NWA Flights From MSP

Wed Jun 16, 2004 9:31 am

Airlines hate delays also !! Not only does it screw things up for the passengers, but it really makes a mess for crew scheduling. Sorry you had a bad experience, I have had to suffer through delays as a passenger on other airlines and my own and as a crew member. I hope it ALL gets better for you. No doubt it has impacted you both for work and on your vacation.

Things can really get you down and cause problems, and rightfully so. In reality though...you could be serving your country overseas , away from your loved one for an extended period of time, or even homeless.. the list goes on Now tell me again how these delays have really ruined your life.


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nwcoflyer
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RE: NWA Flights From MSP

Wed Jun 16, 2004 9:43 am

from the NWA hubs in the Northwest...what a joke.
That is a joke in itself. Northwest does not have a hub in the Northwest. They have hubs in the midwest, the south, and Asia.

Airlines cannot control weather. If they had to compesate people every time there was a weather delay, diversion or cancellation, they would go bankrupt.
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dtwclipper
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RE: NWA Flights From MSP

Wed Jun 16, 2004 9:48 am

These are the kind of posts that make this board sound so childish. We are supposed to know something about aviation and the airlines, but this thread just sounds like the ranting irate pax, who doesn't know the difference between a 747 and a 737.

Go fly AA through DFW a few times or CO through IAH, or DL through CVG, soon you won't have any airlines left to fly on. Sorry, 'bout that, but that's just my 2 cents.
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jjbiv
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RE: NWA Flights From MSP

Wed Jun 16, 2004 10:16 am

I think aa777jr, as a multi-engine rated "future AA pilot" per his profile is pulling our chain, so to speak.

joe
 
azo
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RE: NWA Flights From MSP

Wed Jun 16, 2004 10:16 am

Another first class thinker to add to the useful threads on this forum.
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CaptSkibi
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RE: NWA Flights From MSP

Wed Jun 16, 2004 11:37 am

I just went through four airlines (to end up flying on two) to get from Grand Rapids to Pensacola on Monday, June 14, 2004.

I was supposed to fly UA from GRR to ORD at 1:55PM. That was delayed. Just as we were scheduled to take off, I get a call from NWA. My flight out of ORD to MEM was cancelled.

So, NW books us on DL from GRR to ATL to PNS. Then we got our bags back from UA. Thanks, UA! The DL flight was due to leave at 7:05 PM.

At 4:20, we check the DL site for the flight. GRR to ATL is cancelled. So, DL rebooked us on CO from GRR to CLE, then DL from CLE to ATL to PNS.

We board on time for the CO flight to CLE, but have a 20 minute ground stop due to TSRA at CLE. Our DL flight out of CLE was delayed by 1.5 hours. Our DL flight out of ATL was delayed by 2 hours.

The moral of the story is, it doesn't matter what airline you're flying when it comes to TSRA and other bad weather. They all have their problems. ORD is probably the worst due to all of the intersecting runways. I've had problems at MIA, too. I know people who had very bad problems at MSY and IAH. DTW seems to be pretty good to me, so far, but still, not without weather delays.

Airplanes are required to have a certain amount of reserve. They can only carry so much fuel, too. If they carry too much, then they might exceed the maximum landing weight of the aircraft.

AA777jr, as a pilot myself, I would never want to sit in an airplane with you, let alone if you're flying it. With that kind of attitude and knowledge, let me off! I'll walk.
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MSPXJGuy
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RE: NWA Flights From MSP

Wed Jun 16, 2004 11:42 am

All I can say is that no one likes delays. It's not as if the airlines do it on purpose. I'm sure they love risking million dollar pieces of equipment and 100+ lives along with their crew so they can get an on time arrival. And I'm sure the counter agents love dealing with crabby people becuase a flight is delayed and they purposely delay it on purpose. And I'm sure the people that get to use the plane once your done with it love waiting and told the airline to send it to DLH because they have time to wait around.

Give me a break. MSP is one of the best airports for dealing with weather problems.
 
alphascan
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RE: NWA Flights From MSP

Wed Jun 16, 2004 11:58 am

70K WorldPerks miles and not one of them earned in the air, obviously.

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taloush
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RE: NWA Flights From MSP

Wed Jun 16, 2004 1:20 pm

Seeing as apparently nobody's asked for them yet...

How much for the 70K WorldPerks miles?

:D

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MMEPHX
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RE: NWA Flights From MSP

Wed Jun 16, 2004 1:34 pm

Aa777jr, I think SAN probably has some of the best weather in the country better start routing all your flights through there. Mind you, if you want to actually end up in MSP then what are you going to do?
 
dinker225
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RE: NWA Flights From MSP

Wed Jun 16, 2004 1:35 pm

I'll give you some money for those miles. What are you asking?

Dinker
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