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Next Rumor: LTU Will Start DUS-NYC Next Summer

Thu Jun 17, 2004 1:33 am

There's are some rumours on German internet pages that LTU will start a regular service from Duesseldorf, Germany to New York next summer.
Flight will operate 4 times a week...


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Next Rumor: LTU Will Start DUS-NYC Next Summer

Thu Jun 17, 2004 1:37 am

I think will be good to bring back to JFK again and already served to MIA.
 
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Next Rumor: LTU Will Start DUS-NYC Next Summer

Thu Jun 17, 2004 1:54 am

Won't Miami be upgraded next season to 2/7?
 
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Next Rumor: LTU Will Start DUS-NYC Next Summer

Thu Jun 17, 2004 2:02 am

Good. Germany is the largest country without a 2nd intl sked carrier. LH could use some domestic competition.

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Next Rumor: LTU Will Start DUS-NYC Next Summer

Thu Jun 17, 2004 2:43 am

Which German internet pages?????
 
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Next Rumor: LTU Will Start DUS-NYC Next Summer

Thu Jun 17, 2004 2:47 am

NZ1's mother is a disgusting crack-whore and his father is a worthless alcoholic!
 
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Next Rumor: LTU Will Start DUS-NYC Next Summer

Thu Jun 17, 2004 2:51 am

Considering this "source", I would be very cautious to believe it. Unless LTU manages to market the bellyspace of their Airbusses with some very favorable freight rates, I doubt that they would be able to make money on this highly competitive market.

Remember that already LH and CO have pulled out of the DUS-NYC market - and these airlines both had considerably higher passenger feed at one of the ends of the flight.

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RE: Next Rumor: LTU Will Start DUS-NYC Next Summer

Thu Jun 17, 2004 3:14 am

LTU really wants to grow that is obvious. The question is who they want to attract. Business passengers will not like their frequencies while cities like New York are not exactly typical charter destinations.

Years ago I already talked to friends saying that if it were up to me I would merge LTU with (then still called-) Deutsche BA and build up a "real" airline turning away from the charter network. It would have DUS as main base and be able to serve 15 million people of the Rhein-Ruhr area. Well Deutsche BA is now dba but LTU seems to go in this direction anyways, just without a merger having Air Berlin feed their flights.

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RE: Next Rumor: LTU Will Start DUS-NYC Next Summer

Thu Jun 17, 2004 6:42 am

So we have one poster quoting another forum. As long as I don't see anything official from LTU I'm not convinced.
I'm not sure how they want to make money in this market. Other airlines tried it and failed.
 
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RE: Next Rumor: LTU Will Start DUS-NYC Next Summer

Thu Jun 17, 2004 3:32 pm

LH could use some domestic competition.

Lufthansa
Air Berlin
dba
Germanwings (ok belongs somewhat to Lufthansa)
gexx
HLX
Easyjet (maybe not yet, but in planning stages)
...

I think thats plenty of competition for a country that is about half as large as Texas.

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RE: Next Rumor: LTU Will Start DUS-NYC Next Summer

Thu Jun 17, 2004 4:02 pm

Not so much of a competition if you consider the market share, traffic figures, turnover and profits of the competitors compared to LH.
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RE: Next Rumor: LTU Will Start DUS-NYC Next Summer

Thu Jun 17, 2004 5:20 pm

@FraT:

I can't really believe it, too  Smile
Think the author of this rumour isn't the best source.
 
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RE: Next Rumor: LTU Will Start DUS-NYC Next Summer

Thu Jun 17, 2004 5:27 pm

Considering the author of that source in the other forum is a schoolkid, who is quite infamous for his rarely fact-based pro-DUS cheerleading, one should be extremely cautious.
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RE: Next Rumor: LTU Will Start DUS-NYC Next Summer

Thu Jun 17, 2004 10:16 pm

For all German speaking members, look at the thread on Airliners.de (link in reply no. 5), it has become a complete flamefest  Laugh out loud.

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RE: Next Rumor: LTU Will Start DUS-NYC Next Summer

Thu Jun 17, 2004 10:20 pm

... and I have to admit that I am one of the flamers, although I am trying to remain constructive and follow a logical line of argumentation (as it should be the case in any aviation related discussions anyways). Big grin
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RE: Next Rumor: LTU Will Start DUS-NYC Next Summer

Sun Jun 20, 2004 7:16 am

Won't Miami be upgraded next season to 2/7?


It alreayd has been upgraded. LTU is now operating MIA-DUS on Tuesdays and Fridays, both year-round. They are also now flying MIA-MUC on Wednesdays, year-round.

It's awesome that LTU is looking at NYC. I definitley think they can make it work.
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RE: Next Rumor: LTU Will Start DUS-NYC Next Summer

Sun Jun 20, 2004 7:58 am

There is correct for LT is used them with DUS-MIA for once in the weekly. I remember while back was use service to MIA.