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Major Delays For Independence Air On Day 1!

Thu Jun 17, 2004 8:30 am

http://www.flyi.com/tools/flight_status.jsp

All flights delayed 2 hours. Anyone know why?

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[Edited 2004-06-17 01:32:31]
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RE: Major Delays For Independence Air On Day 1!

Thu Jun 17, 2004 8:40 am

My guess would be weather related.
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RE: Major Delays For Independence Air On Day 1!

Thu Jun 17, 2004 8:52 am

A somewhat related question -- Are they sticking with the "Blue Ridge" callsign, or did that change with the rebranding?
 
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RE: Major Delays For Independence Air On Day 1!

Thu Jun 17, 2004 8:58 am

Something's up

Flt1134 from Boston was scheduled at 1745. Left the gate at 1756. Scheduled to arrive IAD at 1926. Now showing arriving at 2100, but it's status is shown as taxiing.  Confused I'm really confused.

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RE: Major Delays For Independence Air On Day 1!

Thu Jun 17, 2004 9:10 am

1134 landed at 7:47pm and is taxiing to the gate.
 
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RE: Major Delays For Independence Air On Day 1!

Thu Jun 17, 2004 9:14 am

They are not using Blue Ridge or the BLR code. The new flights show up under IDE, and I wouldn't be surprised if they aren't using Independence as the callsign. I haven't listened to ATC to see if that's correct and I can't find a resource on the web to verify.
 
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RE: Major Delays For Independence Air On Day 1!

Thu Jun 17, 2004 9:16 am

According to http://www.fly.faa.gov/flyfaa/usmap.jsp, there are delays or ground stops at DCA, IAD, BWI, PHL, EWR, JFK, GA / KLGA), USA - New York">LGA, TEB, BOS, ATL, ORD, and MDW.

Also from the above website,

Washington Dulles International Airport (IAD) Real-time Status

The status information provided on this site indicates general airport conditions; it is not flight-specific. Check with your airline to determine if your flight is affected.

Delays by Destination:
Due to WEATHER, LOW CIGS/VSBY, departure traffic destined to The William B Hartsfield International Airport, Atlanta, GA (ATL) is currently experiencing delays averaging 51 minutes.

Due to WEATHER, TSTMS ENRTE, departure traffic destined to Newark International Airport, Newark, NJ (EWR) is currently experiencing delays averaging 1 hour and 8 minutes.

Due to WEATHER, TSTMS ENRTE, departure traffic destined to La Guardia Airport, New York, NY (GA / KLGA), USA - New York">LGA) is currently experiencing delays averaging 2 hours and 13 minutes.

Due to WEATHER, TSTMS, departure traffic destined to Philadelphia International Airport, Philadelphia, PA (PHL) is currently experiencing delays averaging 43 minutes.

General Departure Delays: Due to WX/TSTMS, traffic is experiencing Gate Hold and Taxi delays between 3 hours and 1 minute and 3 hours and 15 minutes in length and increasing.

General Arrival Delays: Arrival traffic is experiencing airborne delays of 15 minutes or less.

This information was last updated: Jun 16, 2004 8:06:31 PM EDT

Not a good day to be flying in the northeast.

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RE: Major Delays For Independence Air On Day 1!

Thu Jun 17, 2004 9:41 am

Must to bring them back normal schedules again tomorow and no delayed for them.
 
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RE: Major Delays For Independence Air On Day 1!

Thu Jun 17, 2004 11:13 am

Dulles is in a ground stop too, if I am not mistaken...
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RE: Major Delays For Independence Air On Day 1!

Thu Jun 17, 2004 11:15 am

And here they are at 10:10 EDT. (Click for larger)

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RE: Major Delays For Independence Air On Day 1!

Thu Jun 17, 2004 1:56 pm

When is Flytecomm going to put Indy Air Flights on there? I checked the arrivals into ATL and ORD and it didn't show them.
 
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RE: Major Delays For Independence Air On Day 1!

Thu Jun 17, 2004 2:12 pm

So how many of these aircraft are actually painted? Any?
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RE: Major Delays For Independence Air On Day 1!

Thu Jun 17, 2004 7:24 pm

"When is Flytecomm going to put Indy Air Flights on there? I checked the arrivals into ATL and ORD and it didn't show them."
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They're on Flytecomm.com tracking- at the top without any airline description. Click on one of them, and they have the IDE identifier.

IAD arrivals from Flytecomm.com:

Chicago, IL 1163 12:31 PM Arrived
Raleigh/Durham, NC 1053 12:52 PM Arrived
Raleigh/Durham, NC 1049 01:40 PM Arrived
Atlanta, GA 1191 01:50 PM Arrived
Newark, NJ 1016 02:30 PM Arrived
Atlanta, GA 1197 02:56 PM Arrived
Raleigh/Durham, NC 1055 03:19 PM Arrived
Raleigh/Durham, NC 1057 04:26 PM Arrived
Atlanta, GA 1203 04:29 PM Arrived
Boston, MA 1130 04:54 PM Arrived
Chicago, IL 1167 05:19 PM Arrived
Raleigh/Durham, NC 1059 06:17 PM Arrived
Newark, NJ 1020 08:47 PM Arrived
Atlanta, GA 1205 10:12 PM Arrived
Chicago, IL 1171 10:24 PM Arrived
Boston, MA 1134 10:46 PM Arrived
Newark, NJ 1028 11:05 PM Arrived
Raleigh/Durham, NC 1061 12:08 AM Arrived
Boston, MA 1138 12:15 AM Arrived
Boston, MA 1142 12:26 AM Arrived
Newark, NJ 1026 12:42 AM Arrived
Raleigh/Durham, NC 1067 01:08 AM Arrived
Chicago, IL 1164 01:52 AM Arrived
Atlanta, GA 1211 02:00 AM Arrived
Atlanta, GA 1219 02:29 AM Arrived
Raleigh/Durham, NC 1041 07:18 AM Planned
Boston, MA 1110 08:01 AM Planned
Atlanta, GA 1187 08:04 AM Planned
Newark, NJ 1006 10:06 AM Scheduled
Boston, MA 1114 10:09 AM Scheduled
Atlanta, GA 1193 10:44 AM Scheduled
Chicago, IL 1157 11:08 AM Scheduled
Raleigh/Durham, NC 1045 11:13 AM Scheduled
Boston, MA 1116 11:24 AM Scheduled
Newark, NJ 1010 12:06 PM Scheduled
Boston, MA 1120 12:19 PM Scheduled
Chicago, IL 1163 12:53 PM Scheduled
Raleigh/Durham, NC 1053 01:17 PM Scheduled
Atlanta, GA 1191 01:49 PM Scheduled
Raleigh/Durham, NC 1049 02:02 PM Scheduled
Newark, NJ 1016 03:06 PM Scheduled
Atlanta, GA 1197 03:09 PM Scheduled
Raleigh/Durham, NC 1055 03:42 PM Scheduled
Atlanta, GA 1203 04:14 PM Scheduled
Boston, MA 1130 04:15 PM Scheduled
Raleigh/Durham, NC 1057 04:47 PM Scheduled
Chicago, IL 1167 05:27 PM Scheduled
Newark, NJ 1020 05:46 PM Scheduled
Atlanta, GA 1205 05:54 PM Scheduled
Raleigh/Durham, NC 1059 06:25 PM Scheduled
Boston, MA 1134 07:20 PM Scheduled
Chicago, IL 1171 07:27 PM Scheduled
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RE: Major Delays For Independence Air On Day 1!

Fri Jun 18, 2004 12:31 am

The three letter code is IDE for the independence flights, and the call sign is officially "independence air XXX" , but may be shortended to "independence XXX" it absolutly may not be shortened to "indy XXX" although i wouldn't be suprised to see that a lot.
 
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RE: Major Delays For Independence Air On Day 1!

Fri Jun 18, 2004 12:38 am

Ya I actually heard "Indy Air" on the radio once. It's a lot easier than "Independence Air" but you know how the FAA is!

Anyway I was on the IAD-EWR last night and we were 2.5 hours delayed due to weather enroute. ATC closed the SWANN gate out of IAD so there were many many aircraft out there with us parked on the ramp. Many internationals and mediums were among those included. The majority of those either went back to the gate for pax relief or cancelled.

BTW - Why is the title of this thread sound so bad? It was all weather here, that ain't our fault! lol
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RE: Major Delays For Independence Air On Day 1!

Fri Jun 18, 2004 1:18 am

"so how many of these aircraft are actually painted? Any?"

11 of the 87 are in Independence colors as of today, we are getting 1-2 per day for the rest of the summer until all 87 painted.

june 3 we pulled 30 RJ's out of UAX and parked 19 j-41's
july 3 we will pull another 30
aug 4 we pull the rest (27) and park the rest of the j-41's


 
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RE: Major Delays For Independence Air On Day 1!

Fri Jun 18, 2004 3:14 am

1 or 2 a day? Man they're really hauling ass.
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RE: Major Delays For Independence Air On Day 1!

Fri Jun 18, 2004 3:25 am

All the painting is being done by a company called Leading Edge in greenville, mississippi. We escentially took over the place for the summer, as all they are doing for 3 months is painting our RJ's. They were the only ones that could handle that kind of traffic. I hear rumors that they are ahead, and behind schedule, so I'm assuming they are right on. All the interior mods are being done in dulles and take a few hours per plane. It's an assembly line feeling for the summer. Every week we are adding 3-5 cities until sept 1 when SWF is added as the last one. By Sept 1, all RJ's should be done, and we will be flying all 87 planes. That is also when the first airbus comes on the property to do proving runs and interior finishing, that should be done by Nov 1 when the first Airbus should be put into revenue service. 4 busses in 2004, 19 in 2005, and 4 in 1Q 2006 as planned right now. We also have options for 50 more A319's so IF we turn a decent profit in 1Q or 2Q 2005 as forcast, Look for some of those 50 to be turned into orders. The original plan works with 33 airbusses and that is what they are targeting by 1Q 2006, so they would have to get 6 more than what is planned now to complete phase 1 of the plan. Who knows what phase 2 or 3 looks like, but i hear good rumors.
 
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RE: Major Delays For Independence Air On Day 1!

Fri Jun 18, 2004 6:14 am

What happens to the crews of the '41s and Do328's?
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RE: Major Delays For Independence Air On Day 1!

Fri Jun 18, 2004 6:21 am

Everything was going great until the weather hit, and its subsequent effect on Dulles ATC. The vast majority of us (Independence employees) think Dulles ATC will be the number one problem effecting our performance and chances of success. But at least United will never be able to take one Independence slot during an ATC delay program for their own flights. The days of United taking our slots and delaying our flights for hours and putting us at the bottom of the DOT charts will soon be over.
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RE: Major Delays For Independence Air On Day 1!

Fri Jun 18, 2004 6:26 am

i'd agree PIT, the gov't - thru TSA's security screening lines and FAA's ATC - could play a big role in how Flyi gets going this summer. though i understand that they will be staffing up security lines at least to accomodate the summer rush. not too much can be done about ATC delays with weather and runway closures though.
 
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RE: Major Delays For Independence Air On Day 1!

Fri Jun 18, 2004 6:29 am

The 41 pilots are going to training to fly whatever their seniority can hold. They will all be absorbed into the RJ program as we will need lots more pilots to hit that 11.5 Hours of utilization a day. Right now United is scheduling our airplanes at about 8-8.5 hours a day. So the number of crews per plane is going up as the utilization is going up. The FRJ pilots is the sticky situation right now. The company has already told us that DALPA will not allow us to fly the airplanes past Nov 1. Thats there decision, So we are assuming that on that day we will have to place those guys into training. Now we have started sending guys to airbus training already, and the big classes start in july, so that should eat up some of those guys. There is talk of another furlough, however, they are trying to determine if that is the cheapest way to go. it would probably be 70-80 guys, but the problem with doing that, is we are already a little fat on captains, so if you yank that many FO's, you need to displace captains back to the right seat, that costs a ton of money for training. So believe it or not, the cheaper way might be to just train everyone on whatever equipment they can hold, and just be fat for a while, Of course with 4 this year and 19 A-319's coming next year, the training bubble should be pretty big for a while. They might ask for voluntary furloughs again, and offer a lot of TOWOP (time off without pay). We shall see how it plays out, but from what I have heard, its cheaper to keep them there if they will be needed within 6-8 months, than to furlough them for that length of time. I hope nobody else is furloughed and hope to see the originals back on the line soon.
 
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RE: Major Delays For Independence Air On Day 1!

Fri Jun 18, 2004 7:27 am

Since this is an Indy Air question I figured I would post here instead of making a new topic which requires one response...

I see that Indy Air is in Terminal A in EWR (same as UAX)...and since Im flying EWR-JAX in a month or so I was wondering which terminal they are located in at JAX. Thanks!

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RE: Major Delays For Independence Air On Day 1!

Fri Jun 18, 2004 7:42 am

don't quote me on this, but I believe its B2 and B4. or one or the other. Whatever the old united express gates were, will now be the independence gates as ACA holds the lease on those gates.

[Edited 2004-06-18 00:43:36]
 
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RE: Major Delays For Independence Air On Day 1!

Fri Jun 18, 2004 7:45 am

I am 99% sure Independence Air will be at the same gates ACA used as United Express in JAX. That would be B2 and B4. BTW, they are the most centralized gates in JAX
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RE: Major Delays For Independence Air On Day 1!

Sat Jun 19, 2004 9:46 pm

Does anyone know which gates are going to be used in LAN? Thanks!
 
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RE: Major Delays For Independence Air On Day 1!

Sat Jun 19, 2004 10:39 pm

I can't find Indy Air in Sabre availability displays, what is their two letter airline code, that would be used in Sabre or other airline C.R.S. systems ? Thanks and sorry if this has already been discussed.

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RE: Major Delays For Independence Air On Day 1!

Sat Jun 19, 2004 10:45 pm

Venuscat2,
I thought I read somewhere that the Capitol Airport Authority authorized 400,000 dollars or so to build fly i a new dedicated gate and waiting area. However, the last time i was at LAN I didn't notice any construction,

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RE: Major Delays For Independence Air On Day 1!

Sun Jun 20, 2004 12:03 am

Venuscat2,

We will be using the former united express gate at LAN, I believe it's gate 6, ACA owned the lease to that gate space so it should be transformed into the Flyi area, I'm not sure about the upgrades to the area, but i wouldn't doubt it as they have been beggin for an LCC for a while now.

LGA777,

The two letter code is DH, the three letter code for atc purposes is IDE. But that info is pretty much useless in those systems. Like some of the other low cost carriers, Independence will not use those systems as they cost money. There are two ways to buy tickets, www.flyi.com or 1-800-FLY-FLYI. We don't advertise on orbitz or travelocity, because it costs money. I think the only deal we have is with sidestep. we shall see what happens, and if sales are good enough than we will never use those systems. It's one way we keep the ticket prices so cheap.

Also I believe in august, Atlantic Coast Airlines Holdings (the holding company) will change its name to Flyi Inc, and Atlantic Coast Airlines (the airline) will change its name to Independence Air. Our ticker symbol will also change from ACAI to FLYI. Hope that helps.

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