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AA Terminal 4 @ LAX Gate 41

Sat Jun 19, 2004 1:20 am

Does anybody know how much it costed them to make it B747 ready?

Are there any plans to make more of these gates and make all oneworld operations through terminal 4?

I also noticed that the gate next to 41 (I thinks its 42) is also B747 capable for some time now and when 2 B747's are parked next to each other gate 43 is not used at all. How funny. See pix below.

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Did QF move all its operations to T4 yet?

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RE: AA Terminal 4 @ LAX Gate 41

Sat Jun 19, 2004 1:24 am

Yes, they already move into the T4 with AA.
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RE: AA Terminal 4 @ LAX Gate 41

Sat Jun 19, 2004 4:14 am

does anybody know if CX, BA, and any other oneworld airlines are planning to move to T4?

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RE: AA Terminal 4 @ LAX Gate 41

Sat Jun 19, 2004 5:49 am

There is no room. These are the only two gates that can support a 747 and there are no plans to change that. Besides these are the only two gates that have FIS capabilities in T-4.

The upgrades to the gates were completed a year or so ago when AA completely redesigned and upgraded their LAX T-4 facility. In the renovation, a new FIS customs facility was built under Gate 4 to accommodate international arrivals.

As much as others oneworld carriers may want to use T-4, there simply will never be enough room for everyone. The two QF aircraft make it AA's operation at T-4 very tight at times when it comes to gating the schedule.
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RE: AA Terminal 4 @ LAX Gate 41

Sat Jun 19, 2004 6:41 am

Unless CX, BA, LA, AA Int'l, and EI all use LAX at different times, it can't be done. As it currently is, I think QF only uses those gates for SYD flights. If I'm not mistaken, MEL, BNE, and the rest use TBIT. However, tunnels could be built linking the TBIT gates adjacent to T4, more oneworld/ AA partners could use T4 customs.

I know that Air Pacific's Nadi flight leaves at 11:30 pm from TBIT, couldn't they use T4 given that they are AA(and QF) partners? Also it is an off peak time.

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RE: AA Terminal 4 @ LAX Gate 41

Sat Jun 19, 2004 3:02 pm

Last month I flew Qantas and found out the following: only the codeshare flights with AA (the non-stops to Sydney) operate from the American Terminal. All other Qantas flights operate from the Bradley International. It is weird how I went to check-in in AA's terminal and was asked to go to the other terminal to check-in. My baggage was already check-in from DFW all the way to Brisbane and I flew Delta to LAX. I can't believe they couldn't just issue me the boarding pass right there at the AA terminal. I pass through it from T5's Delta and it was more convenient that doing excessive walking to the far right of the Bradley terminal. Anyway, only the non-stops to Sydney that are operated in codeshare with AA operate from AA's terminal. It is funny to see them parked in two different terminals.

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RE: AA Terminal 4 @ LAX Gate 41

Sat Jun 19, 2004 4:42 pm

I was at T4 today working alongside the two Qantas flights. The above photos show gates 41, 43, and 45. It looks tight, but it really isn't. Today, there was VH-OJS and VH-OEH and they had about 10-15 feet between wingtips. Gates 41 and 43 have indentations in the terminal walls that help support the 744, so the nose is close to kissing the T4 windows.

While QF uses these two gates for their AA codeshare flights, AA also uses them for their international flights, as if that's where all of the flights requiring customs will go. Daily, there will be 2 QF 744s sitting at 41 and 43, and then at 2pm and 4pm, respectively, two 777s fill those gates. Today's AA 777s were both from LHR as AA137 (ship 7BS) and AA135 (ship 7BH). What this has done, is freeing up the gates at the crown of the terminal, such as gates 49A, 48A, 48B, 47B, and 47A and allowed many east coast flights to occupy them. As AA has downgraded many of their east coast flights to 738s, that's pretty much all you will see during the day, with the exception of an MD83 or 752 sitting there.

Last thing, is that the TBIT is nothing but glad to get rid of flights to other terminals. With only 10 gates, the TBIT can get very tight at times. But with AF moving to T5 and QF codeshares moving to T4, there has been a little bit of breathing room. Also, room has been made for things like the SQ A345, China Eastern A346 and the Air India 744.
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RE: AA Terminal 4 @ LAX Gate 41

Sun Jun 20, 2004 3:32 am

Thanks QANTAS747-438 a very informative reply.


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