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Six New Mexico Routes For HP; From LAX/SAN/LAS/OAK

Sun Jun 20, 2004 7:36 am

America West plans on launching six new routes between the US and Mexico on 18 December. They are:

Las Vegas-Los Cabos (Express)
Las Vegas-Puerto Vallarta (Express)
Los Angeles-Acapulco (mainline)
Oakland-Los Cabos (mainline)
San Diego-Los Cabos (Express)
San Diego-Puerto Vallarta (Express)

All pending DOT approval. Docket:
http://dms.dot.gov/search/document.cfm?documentid=284244&docketid=18440
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RE: Six New Mexico Routes For HP; From LAX/SAN/LAS/OAK

Sun Jun 20, 2004 7:50 am

Thanks for the update and welcome back into the a.net again!!! I am still looking over for you into the this week.
 
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RE: Six New Mexico Routes For HP; From LAX/SAN/LAS/OAK

Sun Jun 20, 2004 8:37 am

HP sure is doing there best to be the second biggest US carrier in the Mexican Riviera. I'm glad to see them doing well, just don't step on Alaska's toes.

Oakland service: Very surprising to me!

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flyboyaz
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RE: Six New Mexico Routes For HP; From LAX/SAN/LAS/OAK

Sun Jun 20, 2004 9:07 am

How cool!! I figured on the SAN flights...we have alot of connections to PVR from there.

I can't believe they wrote American West!!!! On a gov't docket...how sad  Sad
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RE: Six New Mexico Routes For HP; From LAX/SAN/LAS

Sun Jun 20, 2004 9:13 am

San Diego-Puerto Vallarta (Express)

Wow, they are growing faster than I expected . . Congrats on their behalf.
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RE: Six New Mexico Routes For HP; From LAX/SAN/LAS/OAK

Sun Jun 20, 2004 10:50 am

Hmm, last I checked, all those cities are in Mexico, not New Mexico. . .  Wink/being sarcastic
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RE: Six New Mexico Routes For HP; From LAX/SAN/LAS/OAK

Sun Jun 20, 2004 11:21 am

We need to get our current operation in a somewhat organized manner before we even think about expanding our routes. But from people I talk to,apparently PHX is the worst operation that Mesa has.
 
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RE: Six New Mexico Routes For HP; From LAX/SAN/LAS/OAK

Sun Jun 20, 2004 11:46 am

Yeah, when I saw this title I though "How the hell is America West going to expand ops in ABQ when they have one gate!" Don't scare me like that!
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scottysair
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RE: Six New Mexico Routes For HP; From LAX/SAN/LAS/OAK

Sun Jun 20, 2004 11:49 am

No, they did not need expand out of ABQ and it is only for service to Mexico flights.
 
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RE: Six New Mexico Routes For HP; From LAX/SAN/LAS/OAK

Sun Jun 20, 2004 3:02 pm

Thanks for the information! I'm now part of that "expansion" for HP, as I just accepted a job offer from them. I'll be flying the Airbus and am looking forward to it!

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RE: Six New Mexico Routes For HP; From LAX/SAN/LAS/OAK

Sun Jun 20, 2004 4:56 pm

when in lax on wed evening flying hp, the sup again mentioned more service to come. they are getting gates 4b and 8 from usairways once they move, and she mentioned again about the club, but even added that more n/s service was to come within the u.s.
 
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RE: Six New Mexico Routes For HP; From LAX/SAN/LAS/OAK

Sun Jun 20, 2004 5:41 pm

Great news for HP and SAN! I'm surprised they chose SAN-SJD, though--soon there will be three airlines on the route (including AM and AS). I suppose an Express flight should do well, though. Ditto SAN-PVR.

It is interesting to note that there is currently no service from Tijuana to either Los Cabos or Puerto Vallarta.

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RE: Six New Mexico Routes For HP; From LAX/SAN/LAS/OAK

Sun Jun 20, 2004 6:14 pm

Maybe HP Express will start LAX-BIL? I have heard BIL performs well for HPX, so could this service start? I mean, YEG was a strong peformer, and LAX was promptly added, so could this happen?

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RE: Six New Mexico Routes For HP; From LAX/SAN/LAS/OAK

Mon Jun 21, 2004 12:41 am

YEG was doing well...I was rather puzzled when they added the nonstop to LAX. The flights have been very light..same with YVR...both were heavier on the weekends but during the week, only booked to about 20 or so. The LAX to PVR, MZT flights are doing VERY well....weekends especially they were all full.
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RE: Six New Mexico Routes For HP; From LAX/SAN/LAS/OAK

Mon Jun 21, 2004 12:45 am

Good for them and make more passengers on their way to YEG are doing well.
 
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RE: Six New Mexico Routes For HP; From LAX/SAN/LAS/OAK

Mon Jun 21, 2004 1:15 am

Alright, I needed some good news this morning!!

There is a big marine industry between San Diego and Cabo San Lucas that should justify three flights. Hopefully AM and AS hang in there. SAN-PVR flights are much welcomed as there has been no link between two airports for a few years now. TIJ had a flight to PVR 2 or 3 times a week on AM but that was about it. Someday, hopefully, we'll get SAN-CUN non-stop flights as well.
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RE: Six New Mexico Routes For HP; From LAX/SAN/LAS/OAK

Mon Jun 21, 2004 4:36 am

I predict all the flights between LAX, SAN and OAK into PVR and SJD to be successful ventures... The ones I feel somewhat puzzled about are those departing from LAS... One leisure destination feeding from another?  Confused

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RE: Six New Mexico Routes For HP; From LAX/SAN/LAS/OAK

Mon Jun 21, 2004 4:57 am

Regarding the AM flights from TIJ to PVR, they are still operating, on thursdays and sundays with md80 equipment (acording to the latest timetable).

Let's see how AM and AS react in SAN to protect their turf ! Although from the comments I get from my cousin who works with the airport, the loads are quite healthy, so there's probably enough room for everybody. AM is even adding a flight to MZT soon.



 
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RE: Six New Mexico Routes For HP; From LAX/SAN/LAS/OAK

Mon Jun 21, 2004 4:57 am

Where does HP plan on getting extra facilities to accomodate these extra flights at PVR? When I was there in April, the HP counter had the longest line by far, and that was with an agent at every position. The gate area is also a crowded mess, with many aircraft parked on hardstand due to a lack of gate space.

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