r3500vdp
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Who Pays The Bill For The B707 At Ostend

Fri Jun 25, 2004 1:16 am

Just wondering how it's possible for an aging Boeing 707 (YA-GAF) to be parked at EBOS airport for 7 years now without being sold or scrapped while much newer aircraft such B 762, A300, etc. are meeting their final fate. Is somebody paying the parking fees?
 
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RE: Who Pays The Bill For The B707 At Ostend

Fri Jun 25, 2004 3:28 am

> Just wondering how it's possible for an aging Boeing 707 (YA-GAF) to be parked at EBOS for 7 years

FYI, we're talking about this fellow.

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> Is somebody paying the parking fees?

I would highly doubt that.

I would speculate that the B707 is already property of the Ostend Airport authorities, who may want to keep the aircraft intact for whatever reason (fire training, aviation college...).

Would be nice if this aircraft could be repainted and preserved for future generations to watch and enjoy.

 
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RE: Who Pays The Bill For The B707 At Ostend

Fri Jun 25, 2004 5:12 am


I sincerely hope it will be preserved rather than scrapped or used for fire practise. Just did some reading and it's an aircaft with an intersting history. It was owned by Balkh Airlines of Afghanistan. The owners were Christopher Barrett-Jolley from the UK who is now in jail for smuggling drugs (see aircraft 3C-GIG) and Rashid Dostum. The latter is a warlord from Northern Afghanistan that helped fight on just about any side (mostly his own) but most recently assisted the US against in the fight against the taliban.
 
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RE: Who Pays The Bill For The B707 At Ostend

Fri Jun 25, 2004 5:23 am

Apperentely the aircraft was also used in former Yugoslavia where she received the military registration 73601. She was used to evacuate Serbian refuges from Sarajevo to Belgrade.

YA-GAF will be scrapped next monday.

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RE: Who Pays The Bill For The B707 At Ostend

Fri Jun 25, 2004 6:50 am


> YA-GAF will be scrapped next monday

Oh no ...  Sad

What has happened recently such that -after standing there reportedly for 7 long years- this aircraft is suddenly sentenced to be scrapped?

 
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RE: Who Pays The Bill For The B707 At Ostend

Fri Jun 25, 2004 7:01 am

Maybe 3500RVDP's post brought the folks at Ostend on an idea  Laugh out loud... no I read it as well last week it was to be scrapped unfortunately.  Crying  Pissed
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RE: Who Pays The Bill For The B707 At Ostend

Fri Jun 25, 2004 7:48 am


That's terrible news. If anybody is standing by with a camera next Monday, it would be good to capture the last moments.
 
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Fri Jun 25, 2004 5:10 pm

Yes, I found video footage of the scrapping of the Caravelles at Toulouse in March, they even put syruppy sad violin music under it.
nobody has ever died from hard work, but why take the risk?
 
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RE: Who Pays The Bill For The B707 At Ostend

Fri Jun 25, 2004 9:26 pm

It took 2 years for OST to get rid of the DART IL76.
It will have taken 7 years for OST to bury the Uganda B707.


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The aircraft was damaged beyond repair and stored at OST for 2 years


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The Ilyushin was finally broken up in June 2003
 
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RE: Who Pays The Bill For The B707 At Ostend

Fri Jun 25, 2004 9:32 pm

Off Topic: Didnt Virgin Express fly there once?
 
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RE: Who Pays The Bill For The B707 At Ostend

Sat Jun 26, 2004 5:03 am

Hy all..

Well, that's too bad... I came to OST some months ago to see the Air Memphis SU-AVZ but it crashed 2 days before my arrival... Finally I could see a 707 for real (YA-GAF) but this seems to be over now. Hopefully at least the stored DC-8's at OST will survive...


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RE: Who Pays The Bill For The B707 At Ostend

Sat Jun 26, 2004 5:13 pm

Nobody is paying the parking fees. That's the reason the airport authorities sell the 707. Some museums were interested but apparently they don't pay enough. It took so long because there were some paperwork and legal problems.
I guess the 9G-BAN DC-8, which is parked on the apron for 3 years now, will have the same fate.

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RE: Who Pays The Bill For The B707 At Ostend

Sat Jun 26, 2004 6:07 pm

@Sven: do you have any idea why they didn't pay enough!?
I think giving the 707 for free to a museum would be cheaper then calling the scrapman!? Seems to be more an authority problem then a money problem.

I would buy it if I had the money! And I would make a restaurant in it next to the apron in OST  Smile

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RE: Who Pays The Bill For The B707 At Ostend

Tue Jun 29, 2004 6:33 pm

Any news then? Was the plane scrapped yesterday?
 
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RE: Who Pays The Bill For The B707 At Ostend

Fri Jul 02, 2004 10:15 pm

YA-GAF is almost completely scrapped.

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There were juridical procedures against 5 companies: ALG Inc. (USA), Uganda Airlines Corp. (Uganda), Skyjet Management Ltd. (UK), Airwings Services Ltd. (UK) and Ringham Ltd. (Ireland) but no one was able to pay the parking fee of approx. 785.000 euro so the Flemish community decided to sell the 707. Apparently the scrapman payed most.

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RE: Who Pays The Bill For The B707 At Ostend

Fri Jul 02, 2004 11:12 pm

Even though she's being scrapped, she still seems to have a smile on her face!  Sad
 
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RE: Who Pays The Bill For The B707 At Ostend

Sat Jul 03, 2004 12:34 pm

oh nooooo!!!!!!!! that 707 was like a monument in Ostend!

any other 707s in airline livery intact anywhere else?
 
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RE: Who Pays The Bill For The B707 At Ostend

Sat Jul 03, 2004 9:45 pm

oh nooooo!!!!!!!! that 707 was like a monument in Ostend!

any other 707s in airline livery intact anywhere else?

-Well, there are some very well preserved 707s in museums, including some that have interesting and significant liveries. This includes:

-VC-137s (707-153 and -353s) that have been used as Air Force 1 (the first - President Eisenhower's and President Kennedy's) preserved at Seattle and some military museum

-707-328 of Air France preserved in Air France livery at Le Bourget

These planes are just two examples I can think off the top of my head. And unlike the Ugandan one, they're PRESERVED. Quite a few are, though not all are in original liveries like this one.

And thanks for the picture. Just what we needed.
 
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RE: Who Pays The Bill For The B707 At Ostend

Sat Jul 03, 2004 9:54 pm

I have the luxury to say, that my hometown airpotrt has one B707. And I can see it everyday, if I would like to... Big grin


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RE: Who Pays The Bill For The B707 At Ostend

Sat Jul 03, 2004 10:27 pm

Ebos, I think the Belgian authorities didn´t want it re-sold to the former owners, so they choose to scrap it.
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RE: Who Pays The Bill For The B707 At Ostend

Sat Jul 03, 2004 11:45 pm

Horrible to see the scrapped YA-GAF. It feels the same as having to watch an old tree being cut down to me. There is one more Boeing 707 in Europe with a dubious past (TL-ADJ), owned by African Lines, once controlled by Ronnie Rosignol, a person perhaps known to Belgians for his arms dealings with Victor Bout. The Boeing is now stored at Reims, impounded by the French. She's likely going the same route which is sad since it flew not so long ago.
For anybody interested in some of these Ostend stories, have a look at:
http://users.skynet.be/cleanostend/clos_en.htm
 
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RE: Who Pays The Bill For The B707 At Ostend

Sun Jul 04, 2004 12:57 am

R3500vdp,

thanks a lot for this link. I had previously read some stories about the Bout-Mob, but this is a very detailed listing of all the dirty shit this low-life has done so far.
I strongly encourage everybody to read this, especially those who think it is mainly fish and vegetables what these airlines carry.
Sorry if I hijack the thread, but has anybody information about Al-Dawood Airlines? A short while ago I read they were doing AMC flights for the US forces, which I couldn't quite believe. Does anybody who is behind that airline?

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RE: Who Pays The Bill For The B707 At Ostend

Sun Jul 04, 2004 5:48 am

These planes are just two examples I can think off the top of my head. And unlike the Ugandan one, they're PRESERVED. Quite a few are, though not all are in original liveries like this one

thanks for all the info. but from a photographers point of view, at least me personally, I have no interest in photographing a 707 out of the airport in a museum, however well preserved it might be. Same thing about the Hamburg airport 707, great but that's no airline either  Sad

The 707 at Reims, assumming it hasn't been chopped up, that would be interesting to see if its still shootable. There used to be some at Manston a few years ago, but those I'm sure have been scrapped by now.

 
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RE: Who Pays The Bill For The B707 At Ostend

Sun Jul 04, 2004 10:40 pm

R3500vdp, thanks a lot for that link! Very interesting
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