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No Air Major Air Shows In The US?

Fri Jun 25, 2004 2:00 am

I was reading a post on Aircraft orders in Farnborough and I started wondering why their are no major air shows in the US, their is Le Bourget in france and Farnborough in the UK, both countries with a significant role in aviation and no major ones in the US, home of boeing, the Number 1 airplane manufacturer in the world
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RE: No Air Major Air Shows In The US?

Fri Jun 25, 2004 2:04 am

Those shows are very expensive for exhibitors; one a year is enough, based on the pace of technical advances. The US has numerous smaller shows aimed at enthusiasts, demonstration flying, military recruiting and civil advertising; but none on the scale of the French and British efforts.
 
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RE: No Air Major Air Shows In The US?

Fri Jun 25, 2004 2:09 am

EAA's annual Oshkosh air show is probably the biggest event in the US. But it is oriented much more towards to general and sport aviation crowd, than Farnborough, Paris, or Berlin.
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RE: No Air Major Air Shows In The US?

Fri Jun 25, 2004 2:13 am

Yeah American airshows are aimed at enthusiasts and general aviation crowds, and also with more of an emphasis on recruitment for the military.
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RE: No Air Major Air Shows In The US?

Fri Jun 25, 2004 2:34 am

I would say that the Dayton, OH airshow, and the Edwards AFB show are among the largest in the US. As stated, nothing vendor wise that compares with the UK's Farn or Paris shows.
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RE: No Air Major Air Shows In The US?

Fri Jun 25, 2004 2:45 am

The Dayton show in July is probably the only major show in the US that has an orientation toward the major a/c manufacturers, and that's only every other year. The off years it's more like a typical airshow.
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RE: No Air Major Air Shows In The US?

Fri Jun 25, 2004 4:30 am

Yeah, the Dayton airshow is, after all, the [I]National Air and Trade Show[/I]. The goals are a little different because the US industry doesn't really need an airshow to sell to the DoD, where as foreign air shows are used to sell products to the local militaries.
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RE: No Air Major Air Shows In The US?

Fri Jun 25, 2004 4:47 am

We have plenty of airshows, just not many exhibitions like you're talking about. The Dayton Airshow, Cleveland Nat'l Airshow/Air Races, Oshkosh, The Air and Sea Show in Ft. Lauderdale, and Nellis are some of the biggest.
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RE: No Air Major Air Shows In The US?

Fri Jun 25, 2004 6:34 am

There was an attempt at an airshow similar to Paris and Farnborough last year called the Aviation World's Fair It was supposed to have been a 21 day event last April @ PHF. It got cancelled after it lost state and local funding and could not find a suitable venue for the event.
 
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RE: No Air Major Air Shows In The US?

Fri Jun 25, 2004 6:51 am

Well, something's up in Austin as I heard an odd sounding aircraft earlier.....I looked up just in time to see a B-25 flanked by two WWII era fighters. I sure wished I had looked up sooner. :-(
 
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RE: No Air Major Air Shows In The US?

Sat Jun 26, 2004 11:24 am

Well here in dallas/ft.worth there's a rather large airshow at the alliance airport. One year I think it was 2001 they had the following aircraft An.225/AA777/fedex-a310 & 300 also 727 just to name the largest ones.
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RE: No Air Major Air Shows In The US?

Sat Jun 26, 2004 2:13 pm

There's a great one at Muskegon County Airport (KMKG) in july, and a decent one in Traverse City sometime in the summer. I went to the MacDill AFB airshow this year durring spring break with a friend of mine, we had a great time.

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RE: No Air Major Air Shows In The US?

Sat Jun 26, 2004 2:22 pm

I remember reading in one of the Airline Mags a few years ago (vague I know but I will dig around when I get home and find the issue) that the US tried a similar (Farn. etc) big show in the 70s around DC somewhere, but it lost congressional funding and never happend again. Anyone remember this article/show?

I do love working airshows though, best deal in the Air Force  Smile

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RE: No Air Major Air Shows In The US?

Sat Jun 26, 2004 2:24 pm

I don't know, The Reno Air races, Fun and Sun, Oskhosh, all have got to rate right up there. But it is true there is more of an enthusiasts rather then industrial theme to them.

Then add to that the local air shows and air force open houses such as this weekend on Elemendorf.
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RE: No Air Major Air Shows In The US?

Sat Jun 26, 2004 4:09 pm

Lt-AWACS, that show was at Dulles back in either 72 or 74, I believe...i went there with my Mom when i was in high school..it was sort of a World's Fair of transportation...all kinds...trains also...saw the British Red Devils(?) that I still recall one manuever from from...and saw VP Spiro Agnew from about 25-50 ft away when he went to podium to speak...
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RE: No Air Major Air Shows In The US?

Sun Jun 27, 2004 2:03 am

Kansas City every year has a show at MKC. It draws between 150,000-200,000 people, and they hold it in August. It has various aircraft every year. The last one I was at (2002) had a B-25, C-17, C-141, A.300 (FedEx), B-2 flyover, F-117, F-14, F-16/P-51 aerobatic show, C-152, C-172, DC-3, Save-A-Connie's Constellation (in TWA colors), CH-46, AH-1, UH-1, UH-60, and several others.

Oshkosh is a HUGE airshow with over 5,000 aircraft every year, sometimes as many as 12,000 or more. Many of them are experimental, and many are military or commercial birds.
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RE: No Air Major Air Shows In The US?

Sun Jun 27, 2004 2:16 am

British Red Devils

The Red Arrows. Very cool aerobatics team. I'm guessing you remember one of the syncro pair crossovers?
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RE: No Air Major Air Shows In The US?

Sun Jun 27, 2004 2:17 am

Dayton as mentioned every other year has the trade show, but I never really seen any large brand new commercial aircraft on display from the manufacturer... of course in the past I had seen a Comair CRJ that you could walk aboard. One year it was so hot at Dayton, we sat on the CRJ for an hour to cool off in its airconditioning. In the past I had seen other aircraft on display at Dayton like a Piedmont 737-300, USAir MD-80, Delta Shuttle 727 and of course cargo planes like Fed Ex 727s, Emery DC-8s and DC-10s.

Osh Kosh isn't hardly geared at all to commercial aviation, like everyone else said mainly private and experimental... several WWII era aircraft too. The Concord would occassionally come to Osh Kosh, along with the TWA Save a Connie Constellation. I believe there were some 747 flyovers in the past along with the A300 Super Guppy or whatever that thing is called.

Lakeland Airshow in Lakeland Florida, Mid April is like a smaller scale Osh Kosh with the same idea mainly experimental and private aircraft, but there were a lot of business aircraft on display too like Citations, Beechjet 400s and some new type of wierd looking buizjet that is coming out, forgot what it is called.
 
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RE: No Air Major Air Shows In The US?

Thu Jul 01, 2004 5:19 am

and a decent one in Traverse City sometime in the summer.

I should say this is a decent show...


Airshow kicks off in Traverse City at 1230pm this Saturday and Sunday over West Grand Traverse Bay. The Blues start tearing up the skies tomorrow. BA 7 woke the city up at 0800 this morning and went up a few more times today. They arrived Monday (4 days early)because they opted not to return to P-Cola after their show in ANC. They wanted to enjoy one of their favorite destinations by playing golf and fishing for a few days.

Heres whats flying.

USAF F16 West Demo
Haritage flight
USAF T-38
USAF A10's (might be ANG flybys, dont see the A10 scheduled in TVC this weekend in the Air Combat Command schedule)
USAF B52
USN Blue Angels
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RE: No Air Major Air Shows In The US?

Thu Jul 01, 2004 6:26 am

Oshkosh (Airventure) is run by the EAA (experimental aircraft assoc.) and although it is mostly sport/general aviation there is usually a large contingency of business jets there. In the US it is by far the greatest/largest show in the US. Does anyone know the amount of ppl at the Paris airshow each year? Oshkosh is about 800,000 for the one week event. -Matt in KITH