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Crossing Cabins Inflight

Fri Jun 25, 2004 12:15 pm

I recently returned to the US on a flight from AUA to MIA. During the departure announcements, the flight attendant announced that due to FAA rules, flights inbound to the US were required to maintain a separation of passengers in both cabins. No crossover was allowed, even for the lavatory.

Strange enough, my flight from MIA to AUA the week before didn't have the same announcement. (Same airline (AA) and aircraft 752)

The announcement not to congregate in the aisles in the lavatory or galley areas was made during both flights, and I can see the logic in that.

Yet, while I know it is frowned upon on any flight to cross cabins to use the lavatory, but does anyone know why this new specific restriction against crossing cabins inbound to the US was put into effect since 9/11?
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RE: Crossing Cabins Inflight

Fri Jun 25, 2004 12:24 pm

I think this is only applicable to US airlines.

I know on CX they still close all the curtains on ALL flights (eg. CX888) and allow people to wait in line for the toilet (now a maasive queue).

I mean normally you are not allowed to go to a HIGHER class whilst on board, but CX had no problem of me walking up and down the aisle to my class (when I am on J and F class) Also they allow me to go between upper and main deck as well (when J class toilets are full downstairs you can go up, also you can use the bar upstairs as well)
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RE: Crossing Cabins Inflight

Fri Jun 25, 2004 1:17 pm

I may be wrong, but I think it's an airline rule, not an FAA rule, that passengers not cross cabins.

Pax cross cabins all the time and if it were an FAA rule they'd have to strictly enforce it in a way that wouldn't really be possible or practical.

I do think it is an FAA rule, though, that the curtain dividers no longer be pulled during flight. On many planes they have been removed altogether.

My guess is that on your flight the F/A was ad-libbing the announcements and said "FAA" instead of "American Airlines." As stated, that would prevent F pax from crossing into Y as well (as if they'd want to, ewww), and we all know that F pax get to do pretty much whatever they want.
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RE: Crossing Cabins Inflight

Fri Jun 25, 2004 1:37 pm

I noticed that on both of my HP flights there were no curtains on the plane not even ones that cover up the Kitchen. I will be flying LH next week do you think they will have crtains or not. Im me and let me know. I am interested to know if LH has curtains.
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RE: Crossing Cabins Inflight

Fri Jun 25, 2004 8:12 pm

Actually, the TSA has come out with a new rule which does prohibit crossing cabins (either direction) ONLY on flights from outside the United States inbound to the US.

It is an absolute nightmare to enforce, because as the previous poster noted, it is not required on totally domestic flights or on international flight OUTBOUND from the US. Therefore, for once, when the passenger says "they let me do it on my last flight", they are probably correct.

Of course, no one believes you when you tell them this. They think you are being a rude, obnoxious ***hole. It's not just the lav that creates the problem, but when mom/dad are in the front and the kids are in the back, etc.

In my opinion, one of two things needs to happen. Either ditch the rule all together, or make it a rule for all flights. Inconsistency is what makes it awful. Failing that, at least a little publicity from TSA about the rule would really help. But of course, that is "safety sensitive information" and the REASONS for the rule cannot possibly be discussed!
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RE: Crossing Cabins Inflight

Fri Jun 25, 2004 8:20 pm

Gormless unimaginative paranoia strikes again ! Let's fight terrorism by preventing people from going to the bathroom - somehow I don't see European airlines falling over themselves to enfore this stupid rule.
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RE: Crossing Cabins Inflight

Fri Jun 25, 2004 8:31 pm

What a stupid narrow sighted rule. How are they supposed to police this? Any passenger seen looking into or envying the Business cabin should be shot on sight. What about the E and E+ cabins?????

As for not being allowed to stand down the back of the aircraft... DL economy is so poor that this is the only saving grace of the flight. It means that I can escape:

1. The drunk Irish person telling me how she hates flying
2. The Utah man telling me how guns are great
3. The spoilt 15 year old on her house in Grand Cayman
4. The 50 year old telling me how cute I am.

Oh the trials of flying to america on DL. I have cut my annual trips to Atlanta from 12 down to 4 simply because its such a hassle. In 2003 I was DL platinum. In 2005 - I will be blue. I now choose BA, with my 270k+ skymiles left going on a trip to china.

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RE: Crossing Cabins Inflight

Fri Jun 25, 2004 8:31 pm

On my flight to ATL with DL from LGW last December there was also no curtains between the cabins and the cabin crew placed masking tape between the cabin divider walls and told everyone that it is against the rules/law to crossover these lines.

Yet there was no tape put up when we flew back out of ATL, it is obviously much better to protect flights to the U.S than it is going anywhere else Yeah sure
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RE: Crossing Cabins Inflight

Fri Jun 25, 2004 8:38 pm

cabin crew placed masking tape between the cabin divider walls

Oh How Delta can you get. Could that tape be seen as impeding an rapid exit, as it is secured to the aircraft (curtains are easily opened)?

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RE: Crossing Cabins Inflight

Fri Jun 25, 2004 8:59 pm

I am interested to know if LH has curtains

They do - and they do close them while working in the galleys.
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RE: Crossing Cabins Inflight

Fri Jun 25, 2004 11:51 pm

Someone said on another related thread that its in the F.A.R. and thats Part 125 or 127, but Im not real sure.
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