cx123
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Privatair

Fri Jun 25, 2004 12:57 pm

I just realised this airline recently (all J Class)
How do you actually book tickets on the flights?
Is it via LH?

Also how is the product when compared to a full airline (A320 vs A340)??

Do you get Flat seats on the plane?
 
FLY777UAL
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RE: Privatair

Fri Jun 25, 2004 4:22 pm

You book through LH's website. I think you can still book full fare Y class, as well for these flights. You'll have to play around with that!

I had a trip report on here, but it looks like its been taken off!

Service wise, it is just the norm. The ambience is the same as what it is on the upper deck of the '47, but the seats aboard the 737 are the same as British Airways' Club World Cradle seats, and the ones on the A319 look like cheap, pseudo-full flat imitations. Neither has PTV's, although we did have portable tape players for movies, audio, and short subject features.

It's really nothing too special, believe it or not. We had 4 FA's aboard, which is a little low for the full amount of 48 passengers. Meal and beverage services were from carts, meals served on trays. Just a very, very standard service the entire way across the pond!

Immensely enjoyed it, however--just the feeling of crossing the Atlantic on your very own BBJ with only 47 of your "closest friends" (or "chosen few"...however you look at it!).

Announcements were in French, English, and German from the very friendly cabin crew. Very impressed by their professionalism and charm. One of the cabin crew is actually on the Privatair website in the pic holding the banner announcing LH/Privatair's first BBJ flight ex-DUS! Chubby, cute girl on the right hand side of the sign...wonderful personality!

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cx123
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RE: Privatair

Fri Jun 25, 2004 4:46 pm

Wow, How much is the fare from MUC-EWR?

Also you can book in Y Class and travel in J??

So the seat is nothing special?

Also do they provide Duvet Service on overnight flights?

As for the catering, do they have a caviar course with a selection of Hor Derves?
 
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RE: Privatair

Fri Jun 25, 2004 4:59 pm

It's standard (or perhaps substandard...haven't tried out true LH service) LH Business Class service. No caviar, and I don't think we had a choice of Hors d'oeuvre. I'm trying to think back through the two meal services...

The fare from MUC-EWR r/t was in the neighborhood of $5,000 or something like that. I non-revved on the flight, so can't really help you there. LH or Expedia would be the best bet.

When I was checking, I booked using the highest, unrestricted Y class fare, which LH even allowed passengers to book using lufthansa.com. The price difference really is neglegable.

The seat is nothing special. It's really stripped down when compared to British Airways' seat. No built in phone, the power outlet was coverd up, no additional cocktail tray, no PTV, no audio, pretty much just a very, very basic seat. The cradle was nice, but the recline of the seat as well as the pitch of the footrest was piddly--very poor at best.

The seats on the A319 just look horrible to me. They have the same pitch as the 737's (55") and try to have the lay-flat (yet on an angle) seats, but they have a quite obvious very large kink in the middle of them. They look just like cheap plastic surrounding them and fake leather. Again, a very VERY basic seat.

Duvet service--no. Simple woolen blanket IIRC and a pillow.

The only real thrill about flying on it is the fact that it's your plane. Nothing else is special about it.

 
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RE: Privatair

Fri Jun 25, 2004 5:23 pm

As per winter schedule 2004/2005, PrivatAir will fly ZRH-EWR on behalf of Swiss International.
 
cx123
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RE: Privatair

Fri Jun 25, 2004 5:32 pm

So these Privatair services. Is it Full Charter (you have to book 40 seats at the same time) or you can just buy 1 seat?

Umm I think I might just stick with Club World Beds. But the idea of having an all J Class aircraft is good.
 
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RE: Privatair

Fri Jun 25, 2004 5:36 pm

You just buy it ticket for ticket. Let's put it this way: Lufthansa is leasing the plane from Privatair, so it's just another "normal" LH flight. No different than flying LH "mainline" DUS-AB) (FRA / FRF / EDDF), Germany">FRA-EWR.

ZRH-EWR for Swiss! Good to see!! With which aircraft and frequency?

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cx123
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RE: Privatair

Fri Jun 25, 2004 5:42 pm

How does it feel in an A321 for so long??
TO be honest, I feel even cramped on a A340/330 after 7 hours, can't imagine on a A321
 
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RE: Privatair

Fri Jun 25, 2004 5:57 pm

ZRH-EWR for Swiss! Good to see!! With which aircraft and frequency?

6 times a week with A319

 
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RE: Privatair

Fri Jun 25, 2004 6:03 pm

It's an A319 or 737, CX...not A321.

Unique--is Privatair ordering a new aircraft, or are they going to upgrade and then transfer one from the Airbus Shuttle (or even cut a LH service)?

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cx123
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RE: Privatair

Fri Jun 25, 2004 6:07 pm

Sorry,
I always get mixed up between 319 and 320??

Which one is the single aisle one???

A300 = twin aisle (ANCIENT aircraft)
A319 = ???
A320 = ???
A330 = twin aisle
A340 = twin aisle
 
pelican
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RE: Privatair

Fri Jun 25, 2004 7:36 pm

The seats on the A319 just look horrible to me. They have the same pitch as the 737's (55")

Nope the A319 seats have 58" seatpitch (55" BBJ) and they are wider than the BBJ seats: 19,7"(BBJ) - 21" (319). The recline angle of the 319 seats is 70 degrees compared to 45 degrees in the BBJ.

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RE: Privatair

Fri Jun 25, 2004 8:05 pm

They still look like shit, though. Can't deny that (at least in my eyes). Just cheap Fisher-Price-looking seats that Privatair bought at Toys-R-Us.

While the A319 seats do recline more, the tradeoff is that your entire body reclines and shifts forward on an angle...not the most pleasant feeling, especially if one is trying to get into the closest to flat angle possible. The 3"...negligable when you are already at 55", and despite what figures LH publishes on their website, the A319 seats have to be at the most the same width as the BBJ seats measured from where it counts the most--from the inside of the armrest to the inside of the armrest.

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cx123
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RE: Privatair

Fri Jun 25, 2004 8:39 pm

Oh so they do have the flat seats (Slant) on the A319. That is what I thought when I saw the pictures. So there is a Shell around the seat??
 
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RE: Privatair

Fri Jun 25, 2004 10:14 pm

Both the A319 and A320 are single aisle.
That's why we're here.