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Singapore Airlines Inaugurates SIN-EWR Nonstop

Mon Jun 28, 2004 5:35 pm



Today - 28 June 2004, Singapore Airlines Limited - A Member of Star Alliance - inaugurated its world record breaking A340-500 non stop flight from Singapore Changi Airport to New York (Newark) Liberty Airport.

Flight SQ022 (full according to Rick Clements, Senior Vice President Public Affairs for the Airline, however with 13 SpaceBeds seemingly unfilled as of yesterday according to Singapore Airlines' reservations system), left Gate F52 at 1204 Singapore Time and took off at 1224.

At the gate, passengers indulged in champagne and a buffet and also received a polaroid to commemorate the occasion, along with a commemorative plaque. An apple was also given to each passenger. The boarding music was Frank Sinatra's "New York, New York."

“The flights will take an average of 18 hours in each direction and will save customers up to four hours in travel time as compared to our one-stop services. Today’s flight will travel even further but it will be in the comfort, style and high level of service that our A340-500 is now associated with," said Mr. Huang Cheng Eng - Executive Vice-President - Marketing and the Regions.





Singapore Airlines A340-500 - Making The World A Smaller Place


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RE: Singapore Airlines Inaugurates SIN-EWR Nonstop

Mon Jun 28, 2004 6:07 pm

Should get an updated pic of the A345, none wear the "Leadership" titles now.

Cld u also confirm that info came from Rick Clements? I heard that he quite SIA a few weeks/months ago (Can anybody confirm that?). I looked up the article on CNA and his name wasnt mentioned there as well.
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RE: Singapore Airlines Inaugurates SIN-EWR Nonstop

Mon Jun 28, 2004 7:05 pm

Tsentsan, Your spot on, he QUIT.

Singapore_Air, are you saying this guy that no longer works for SQ is making press releases for SQ  Nuts He is one of the many that have quit during the times of ultra low morale at SQ.

As for the A345 Leadership, thats rather out of date..... tut, tut, tut.

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RE: Singapore Airlines Inaugurates SIN-EWR Nonstop

Mon Jun 28, 2004 7:57 pm

wasnt that the concorde slogan?
 
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RE: Singapore Airlines Inaugurates SIN-EWR Nonstop

Mon Jun 28, 2004 9:53 pm

OK, I shall confirm that with SIA, since I have SIA staff tell me differently.
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RE: Singapore Airlines Inaugurates SIN-EWR Nonstop

Mon Jun 28, 2004 10:11 pm

Yeah you do that. Each man to his own I suppose. Associated Press quoted him as saying:

"It's unusual for an inaugural service to be full both ways. ... It connects two financial centers and cuts travel time by four hours for our previous service with a stop."
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RE: Singapore Airlines Inaugurates SIN-EWR Nonstop

Mon Jun 28, 2004 10:55 pm

SQ 22 west of alaska travelling at 37000 feet at 580mph

eta of 1800, ahead of time.
 
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RE: Singapore Airlines Inaugurates SIN-EWR Nonstop

Mon Jun 28, 2004 11:22 pm

Rick Clements was at the gate. Didn't ask him who he talked to.

20,000 apples were given to all passengers in Changi Airport for this event for the day.
 
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RE: Singapore Airlines Inaugurates SIN-EWR Nonstop

Mon Jun 28, 2004 11:32 pm

Can you anyone tell me about load factor was doing on their way to EWR?
 
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RE: Singapore Airlines Inaugurates SIN-EWR Nonstop

Tue Jun 29, 2004 3:31 am

Hi all,

About the route... Does flight SIN - EWR and EWR - SIN go over the USA or over Europe (if you know what I mean)?
Sorry if this is a stupid question. Don't know the distance/(possible) flight path's

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RE: Singapore Airlines Inaugurates SIN-EWR Nonstop

Tue Jun 29, 2004 3:39 am

I wonder what kind of weight restriction that sucker is going to have, esp in summer months and higher temps.

Wow...that is a killer long flight.
 
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RE: Singapore Airlines Inaugurates SIN-EWR Nonstop

Tue Jun 29, 2004 3:41 am

FJWH,
The route goes over Alaska and then south over Canada to EWR, today at least.

Nick

Edit: And if you really want details, from where it is now (1890NM away from EWR at FL370), the rest of the route is:

YESKA.NCA20.YYZ.J531.BUF.J95.CFB.V149.LHY.V126.SAX..KEWR

The current ETA is 6:39PM EDT.

[Edited 2004-06-28 20:46:18]
 
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RE: Singapore Airlines Inaugurates SIN-EWR Nonstop

Tue Jun 29, 2004 3:47 am

there's a quicktime video clip on the straits times website regarding this flight. sorry, i don't know how to attach link properly.

http://www.straitstimes.asia1.com.sg/videopopup2/0,4131,nonstop0628,00.html?
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RE: Singapore Airlines Inaugurates SIN-EWR Nonstop

Tue Jun 29, 2004 3:50 am

Anyone going to get a photo, or at least get a glimpse of it, before it returns tonight as SQ 21? Departs at 11:00PM EST.
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RE: Singapore Airlines Inaugurates SIN-EWR Nonstop

Tue Jun 29, 2004 3:51 am

The Newark-Singapore route uses the Polar route that CO's EWR-Hong Kong and CX's new JFK-Hong Kong route uses, straight North from NYC over the Canada and the North Pole then down over Siberia Russia into China.

The routes from Singapore, Hong Kong to EWR/New York follow a more traditional route across Japan, then over Alaska then Down over Western Canada to NYC.

The return routes to NYC are to take advantage of favorable winds.
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RE: Singapore Airlines Inaugurates SIN-EWR Nonstop

Tue Jun 29, 2004 3:53 am

Why was EWR chosen for these flights instead of JFK? Better connecting flights from within the US? Don't have support at JFK (Company that owns SK also owns a 40% part of VS, which operates at both EWR and JFK, so could have through JFK)
 
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RE: Singapore Airlines Inaugurates SIN-EWR Nonstop

Tue Jun 29, 2004 4:47 am

Singaporegirl,

Just place the links between 2 brackets: :

You might want to read the "Read how to include links, pictures and smilies! (opens in new window)" "manual".

BTW: Say Hi to my girl, she's coming to SIN this Friday (2 July) Big grin

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RE: Singapore Airlines Inaugurates SIN-EWR Nonstop

Tue Jun 29, 2004 6:22 am

1 hour to go according to the flight trackers - Singapore Airlines breaks its own record for the longest commercial flight.

Here's a picture from the day courtesy of How Hwee Yong - Straits Times Singapore.



Singaporeair.com however points to an 11 minute delay in the arrival at 1841 EST.
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RE: Singapore Airlines Inaugurates SIN-EWR Nonstop

Tue Jun 29, 2004 6:26 am

9V-SGC was the reg number. (knew a few people were wondering about it).

Check out the Bloomberg story here, how many in-accuracies can you find in the story??? Who wants to email the person to tell them that they are wrong???  Laugh out loud

http://quote.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=10000080&sid=a18pFaHKDtPk&refer=asia
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RE: Singapore Airlines Inaugurates SIN-EWR Nonstop

Tue Jun 29, 2004 6:29 am

Oh SQ452, "Complaining" is my middle name. I shall be glad to get one over on Bloomberg - incidentally not as good as CNBC Asia in my opinion.

Oh dear. I can't find anything wrong with it. I'll read it again later.
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RE: Singapore Airlines Inaugurates SIN-EWR Nonstop

Tue Jun 29, 2004 6:30 am


Pretty amazing if you think about it...we could fly westward or eastward but nonstop and end up at the same place...hehe...Know Columbus must be kicking in his grave. Congrats SIA and A340-500...
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RE: Singapore Airlines Inaugurates SIN-EWR Nonstop

Tue Jun 29, 2004 6:34 am

Singapore_Air

OH I know CNBC Asia is better than Bloombie at the moment, i used to work for them  Big grin

What did CNBC Asia cover on the departure???
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RE: Singapore Airlines Inaugurates SIN-EWR Nonstop

Tue Jun 29, 2004 6:35 am

Several points. I have met Rick Clements at financial briefings. I wish him well in his retirement, which is the natural culmination of a distinguished career. Of course he went to the ceremony. He had put many months of effort into helping prepare for the great day, and would have gone in an iron lung with medical attendants had that been necessary.

There were only ever 181 seats shown in all the material given to analysts concerning the SQ A340-500.

If the experience of the LAX non-stop is any guide, SQ will fly very innovative flight paths according to the conditions forecast for the day. Expect a more easterly than northerly route across northern Greenland and toward Spitzbergen going to Singapore and one that goes close to Anadyr or Yakutsk coming from Singapore, depending on the circumstances. Welcome to the quest for perpetual tailwinds....

I have arrived at approxaimate figures for the margin made on these flights using data I cannot share on a public forum. It may not be much, perhaps a few brand new cars in the US or one quarter of a car in Singapore, which has a punitive tax regime for autos, but on the other hand, the flights will probably make more money each way than all of the big six US carriers will make across their entire networks in the same 24 hours.
 
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RE: Singapore Airlines Inaugurates SIN-EWR Nonstop

Tue Jun 29, 2004 6:46 am

Singapore_Air,

This is one good for more new service to EWR today and I think will be arriving shortly. I will check those out with their flight tracker to EWR. This is moment with more excellent service to EWR & LAX. Will even make flying back to SIN this late evening and how is load factor on their way back to SIN?
 
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RE: Singapore Airlines Inaugurates SIN-EWR Nonstop

Tue Jun 29, 2004 6:50 am

Its landing soon, probably started descending

YIPEEEEEEEEEE  Big thumbs up
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RE: Singapore Airlines Inaugurates SIN-EWR Nonstop

Tue Jun 29, 2004 6:52 am



SQ452: Unfortunately I only get CNBC Europe here which does not intrigue me much and CNBC Asia is on during the early hours of the morning.

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RE: Singapore Airlines Inaugurates SIN-EWR Nonstop

Tue Jun 29, 2004 6:58 am



At 2154 GMT 1754EST, A340-500 9V-SGC descended from FL410 to FL394
At 2155 GMT 1755EST, descent to FL385
At 2156 GMT 1756EST, descent to FL374
At 2156 GMT 1756EST, descent to FL362
At 2157 GMT 1757EST, descent to FL330
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RE: Singapore Airlines Inaugurates SIN-EWR Nonstop

Tue Jun 29, 2004 6:59 am

Singapore_Air

oooooh, bummer, CNBC Europe is ok sometimes, when i catch it when its on here, but yah.
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RE: Singapore Airlines Inaugurates SIN-EWR Nonstop

Tue Jun 29, 2004 7:22 am


Time (GMT) | Flight Level
2259 334
2300 330
2302 371
2304 370
2306 270
2307 319
2308 309
2309 301
2310 290
2311 279
2312 269
2313 258
2314 248
2315 237
2316 218
2317 198
2318 184
2319 180
2320 180
2321 168

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RE: Singapore Airlines Inaugurates SIN-EWR Nonstop

Tue Jun 29, 2004 7:36 am

2322 140
2323 123
2324 111
2325 9 400ft
2326 8 900ft
2327 8 100ft
2327 8 000ft
2328 7 600ft
2329 7 000ft
2331 7 000ft
2333 6 800ft
2334 6 400ft

It's stopped updating!
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RE: Singapore Airlines Inaugurates SIN-EWR Nonstop

Tue Jun 29, 2004 7:44 am

Final Approach






2334 5 000ft
2335 5 000ft
2335 4 900ft
2337 4 000ft
2338 3 100ft
2339 2 500ft
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RE: SQ022 Lands!

Tue Jun 29, 2004 7:52 am

2240 1 900ft
2241:24 1 000ft @ 168 knots
2241:47 900ft @ 153 knots
2242:34 200ft @ 145 knots
2343 Landed!




Singapore Airlines has succesfully inaugurated the first nonstop flight between Singapore and New York (Newark)! Actual flight time was 18 hours and 19 minutes.

Kudos to Singapore Airlines Limited and 9V-SGC (who incidentally looks awful from the outside)! Making The World A Smaller Place
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RE: Singapore Airlines Inaugurates SIN-EWR Nonstop

Tue Jun 29, 2004 8:00 am

Great!!! It is very good longer flight from SIN-EWR and those are good time into EWR this evening and will able celerations with the new service back to SIN in the late evening. Thanks for the update, Singapore_Air. Keep it up with their monitor back way to SIN at 11:00pm and talk ya later!

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RE: Singapore Airlines Inaugurates SIN-EWR Nonstop

Tue Jun 29, 2004 8:18 am

Perfect landing,6:43 pm eastern time.I'll post the pics tomorrow 6/29 .Jeff
 
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RE: Singapore Airlines Inaugurates SIN-EWR Nonstop

Tue Jun 29, 2004 9:01 am

nice, thanks Jeff, cant wait to see them, did you get the water cannon?
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RE: Singapore Airlines Inaugurates SIN-EWR Nonstop

Tue Jun 29, 2004 9:08 am

That is quite an achievement for Singapore Airlines and Airbus, congratulations for this!

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RE: Singapore Airlines Inaugurates SIN-EWR Nonstop

Tue Jun 29, 2004 9:35 am

Yep!! This is very good to hear for SQ and make of the longest nonstop to EWR today and will even returns from EWR-SIN tonight. I am sure will more hear about them.
 
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RE: Singapore Airlines Inaugurates SIN-EWR Nonstop

Tue Jun 29, 2004 9:50 am

Great Stuff to SIA, listening to the radio report this morning, the flight received a water cannon salute whilst taxying into Newark, must have been a simply beautiful sight. Hope the sights turn up on a.net soon.

With RE to Rick Clements, so it's confirmed that he has retired or about to retire? Most press releases these days only feature a Mr. Huang Cheng Eng - Executive VP of Marketing. The last one with Rick Clements was in April 2004.

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RE: Singapore Airlines Inaugurates SIN-EWR Nonstop

Tue Jun 29, 2004 9:55 am

Great!! It is good to see with the water cannon was there at the ramp.
 
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RE: Singapore Airlines Inaugurates SIN-EWR Nonstop

Tue Jun 29, 2004 10:16 am

I don't know Rick Clements last day, or whether yesterday was the day.

He enjoyed the confidence of all that he came in contact with.
 
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RE: Singapore Airlines Inaugurates SIN-EWR Nonstop

Tue Jun 29, 2004 10:45 am

It's great that they show a picture of the Empire State Building, give out an apple, and pipe in New York, New York.

That's New York at its finest. However, it's a shame that the aircraft and the passengers on board never made it to New York--they landed 15 miles west in a swamp called Newark.

Maybe Singapore should show a picture of the Meadowlands, give out Salt Water Taffy from Atlantic City, and pipe in the knock off of Will Smith's song "Welcome to New Jersey. Hi, I'm Gina, I'm from Jersey!"

On behalf of all proud New York City residents:
Nice job with the record!
Good Luck on the flight!
Call me when you actually fly to my city!

By the way--I can't wait for all of "youz guys" from out west and down south to tell this Brooklynite that EWR is New York. "Forgetaboutit!!" Let the debate begin!!!!!

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RE: Singapore Airlines Inaugurates SIN-EWR Nonstop

Tue Jun 29, 2004 10:54 am

Do they use better tampons on the A345 Big grin
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RE: Singapore Airlines Inaugurates SIN-EWR Nonstop

Tue Jun 29, 2004 11:41 am

Does anyone know if there is a delay on the outbound flight from EWR this evening, #21? I don't see the flight plan filed on the flight tracker that I use and I consider it to be a reliable one (it's the screenshots from above).

Nick
 
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RE: Singapore Airlines Inaugurates SIN-EWR Nonstop

Tue Jun 29, 2004 11:44 am

Hey SQ452, I could only take pictures outside the airport, and I couldn't see the water canon. Hopefully we'll have nice pics ! Jeff
 
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RE: Singapore Airlines Inaugurates SIN-EWR Nonstop

Tue Jun 29, 2004 11:47 am

You could always trust N745pr to take a discussion from a high level to its lowest ebb with an un-called for and uninspiring remark like that. It always happens and seems to be one of those frustrating "icon" on this otherwise interesting forum.

Let me return the favour! In a couple of days, another Asian carrier makes it double daily to New York - in the colours of Cathay Pacific Airways. Congratulations are due to the folks at CX who worked to achieve this, and to the folks in New York for making this city ever more popular.

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RE: Singapore Airlines Inaugurates SIN-EWR Nonstop

Tue Jun 29, 2004 12:48 pm

This is another great landmark flight involving EWR. Many people don't know but EWR was the FISRT NYC major pax/freight airport developed from the swamps at the border of Newark and Elizabeth, NJ in the 1920's. It is about or over 75 years old. LGA wasn't developed until the late 1930's under orders of the mayor of NYC in the 1930's who was picked off he landed at Newark, NJ, not in New York City. JFK (nee Idlewild) wasn't developed until after WW II.
 
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RE: Singapore Airlines Inaugurates SIN-EWR Nonstop

Tue Jun 29, 2004 12:50 pm

SQ21 just left EWR and is flying northEAST..... 17h 51m left to go! What kind of route would this flight use??? Its not headed straight north out of NYC.

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RE: Singapore Airlines Inaugurates SIN-EWR Nonstop

Tue Jun 29, 2004 12:58 pm

in all honesty, who wants to sit on a plane for 18 hours with a mini tv plastered three inches in front of their face?
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RE: Singapore Airlines Inaugurates SIN-EWR Nonstop

Tue Jun 29, 2004 1:03 pm

It took off at 11:49PM EDT. The flight plan is hilarious!:

KEWR./.IGN188028..PLB.J567.NAPEE.J567.YUL.J574.MT..6000N/07600W..6500N/07500W..7000N/07400W..7500N/07000W..8000N/07300W..8500N/08000W..DEVID.B480.AI.B480.BRT.A91W.CS.A91.SERNA.M520.POLHO.G218.TMR.B458.WXI.A461.LIG.R473.WYN.W18.NLG.W18.TAMOT..SANDI..EPDOS.L642.ENREP.L642.ROBMO.ROB1B.WSSS

Nick
 
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RE: Singapore Airlines Inaugurates SIN-EWR Nonstop

Tue Jun 29, 2004 1:08 pm

Best I can tell, it is in fact heading very directly north.

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