AlitaliaORD
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Load Factors

Tue Jun 29, 2004 11:49 pm

I've noticed alot of people on this site are able to determine load factors when a flight is put in question. Is there any way a non-airline employee or a non travel agent can get that info? I know it's possible on AA's website and used to be on UA, but is there a general site that shows that info?
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Frontiercpt
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RE: Load Factors

Wed Jun 30, 2004 12:17 am

Go to www.itn.net, and go through the normal booking process, after you have chosen the fight you wanted, and get to the part where you review your flights, there is an icon to choose your seats. But you can just see which seats are taken, and the amount of open seats left, and check the load factors.
 
NW7E7
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RE: Load Factors

Wed Jun 30, 2004 12:22 am

You can pretty much do that same thing with all airlines except WN.

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daumueller
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RE: Load Factors

Wed Jun 30, 2004 12:22 am

this doesn't have to mean anything - not everybody has got pre-assigned seats.
 
carduelis
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RE: Load Factors

Wed Jun 30, 2004 7:56 am

The term Load Factors has been used on this forum so many times, but reading the overall messages from contributors, what is generally being looked for is usually a Specific Availability. Availability is an indication of the number of seats available on a specific flight. Remember ABC - Availability is Capacity minus Booked. The figures in CRS usually include a percentage overbooking profile placed by Yield Mangement in their experienced and infinite wisdom.

On the other hand the expression Load Factors is generally referred to as the actual number of carried passengers divided by capacity of the flight, expressed as a percentage. This, of course, relates to reports made after the aircraft has actualy departed, not as an expression of availabilty before departure.

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RE: Load Factors

Wed Jun 30, 2004 10:02 am

For Publicly held US airlines, the information is publicly available in their Shareholder reports (usually quarterly). Plus many of the folks on this board work for one airline or another, so they have pretty good insight. Also, most airports require that the airlines that serve them provide a report (usually monthly) to show how many pax were carried.

Don't waste your time with ITN, most airlines save a bunch of seats for their upper level Frequent Travelers, and also save many seats for Day of Departure. (i.e. exit row, bulkhead, etc.)
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AlitaliaORD
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RE: Load Factors

Wed Jun 30, 2004 10:43 am

-thanks everyone
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njdevilsin03
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RE: Load Factors

Thu Jul 08, 2004 11:12 pm

I remember someone putting a site on here that if you put in your departure city it shows the daily o/d to many destinations...does anyone know that site address?
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RaginMav
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RE: Load Factors

Fri Jul 09, 2004 12:05 am

I remember someone putting a site on here that if you put in your departure city it shows the daily o/d to many destinations...does anyone know that site address?

http://www.faremeasure.com

Choose a city from the drop-down at the bottom of the screen.

Does anyone know how this site generated their o/d pax numbers? are they DOT figures...??? Confused
 
AUAE
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RE: Load Factors

Fri Jul 09, 2004 12:44 am

Whoa, cool sight. I would like to know what data it is pulling!
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njdevilsin03
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RE: Load Factors

Fri Jul 09, 2004 1:06 am

Exact site thank you very much!
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DCAYOW
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RE: Load Factors

Fri Jul 09, 2004 2:12 pm

The Federal Department of Transportations requires all airlines flying within and to / from the United States to report the number of seats and passengers flown in any given month by city pair.

Both domestic and international carriers must report to this database called the T100 database.

It can be access publicly by going to www.transtats.bts.gov

Click on aviation

Then click on "Air Carrier Statistics (Form 41 Traffic)"

Then click on "Download" of either "T-100 domestic segment" or "T-100 international segment" depending on whether you want foreign or US internal data.

After you click download you can filter by geography and month and year to find out the load factors on flights to and from a given US state or foreign country.

Then computation of load factor = passengers / seats
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