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Continental Winglets?

Wed Jun 30, 2004 3:26 am

Does anyone know when CO is scheduled to start installing winglets on its 737 and 757 fleet?
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RE: Continental Winglets?

Wed Jun 30, 2004 3:28 am

CO will soon begin installing blended winglets, manufactured by Aviation Partners Boeing, on some of its 737-800 and 757-200 aircraft. Although several airlines already operate with winglets on their 737s, including Copa, CO will be the first airline to operate the 757-200 with winglets.
The winglet is an upward and aft curving device which attaches to the existing wingtip. This aerodynamic modification stands eight feet two inches tall, and increases the overall wing span on the 737-800 by four feet seven inches, and by nine feet nine inches on the 757-200. The net effect on the aircraft is lower drag and improved lift. The lower induced drag results in up to a 5 percent fuel burn reduction, most of which takes place at cruise altitude. The winglets also improve the airplane’s takeoff performance while reducing engine maintenance costs, emissions and noise.
“The winglet project has involved many CO groups, including Fleet Planning, Materials, Airport Services, Finance, Flight Operations, Marketing and Engineering,” Engineering Managing Director John Wiitala said. “Thanks to the hard work of all these individuals, the project will realize significant savings for CO and will help us make our fleet the best in the business.”
CO has agreed to install winglets on 11 Boeing 737-800s beginning in July 2004 and expects to complete these installations by the end of 2004. The first of 11 757-200 winglet installations will be completed prior to the summer of 2005.

Copyed from the CO TIMES (June 2004) Employees News
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RE: Continental Winglets?

Wed Jun 30, 2004 3:30 am

So are they installing them on all of their 737NGs or just the -800s, and will it be just those 11 or is it intended to be some sort of test program? Thanks for the info!
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RE: Continental Winglets?

Wed Jun 30, 2004 3:35 am

The program is still at least a year off, maybe longer (for the 757).
 
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RE: Continental Winglets?

Wed Jun 30, 2004 4:00 am

The will first install the winglets on 11 737-800's then if all goes well the will continue with the 700's and the 900's if possible. But yes the first 11 are a kinda test program. The first 11 737-800's with winglets are mostly going to be used on the EWR - West Coast Transcon flights to test the benefits of the winglets for CO. The first 11 757's with winglets will be used on the Transcon and Trans Atlantic routes Continental Serves and will obviously be a testing bed for CO and Boeing aviation partners ( the makers of the winglets).
Cant wait to see a 757 w/ winglets
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RE: Continental Winglets?

Wed Jun 30, 2004 4:04 am

A 757 with winglets? Can't wait to see it!

I wonder if ATA will put winglets on their 757 for the new trans-atlantic services? Just think an airline with a fleet of aircract that all have winglets! (738, 752, and 753)
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RE: Continental Winglets?

Wed Jun 30, 2004 4:33 am

we should just take delivery of our upcoming 738s with winglets already. Now we have to keep some aircraft out of service to have the winglets added. Does anyone know how long this process takes?
 
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RE: Continental Winglets?

Wed Jun 30, 2004 5:26 am

The installation if done at an Aviation Partners site is stated to be 2.8 days of down time. That includes delivery/retune time and 1.5 hours of flight testing.

I read on AviationNow.com that Southwest's MX team has the down time all the way down to 1.9 days.
 
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RE: Continental Winglets?

Wed Jun 30, 2004 5:35 am

It sucks that it is so long until the winglets get installed...how hard can it be?
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RE: Continental Winglets?

Wed Jun 30, 2004 6:10 am

A 757 with winglets? Can't wait to see it!

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RE: Continental Winglets?

Wed Jun 30, 2004 10:28 am

Let's not let the Russians think that we are copying them now. Our will look better anyway! the winglets look awesome on the 737 and I am sure they will look awesome on the 757
 
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RE: Continental Winglets?

Thu Jul 01, 2004 4:31 am

Also, just a little tidbit, it is my understanding the winglet-installed A/C will not be subfleeted at first.

If scheduling insists on running a winglet-equipped plane to a certain city and puts such prohibition on it, then they will create a separate fleet designator for it. What that will be I do not now as of now.
 
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RE: Continental Winglets?

Thu Jul 01, 2004 4:29 pm

According to CO's Wednesday's Employee News Update, the next two 738 deliveries from Boeing will be the first winglet-ed. Said deliveries are currently scheduled for 'late July'.
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RE: Continental Winglets?

Thu Jul 01, 2004 6:44 pm


Will the winglets on the 757's be blended or upward-curving such as the 737-800's? Just think the 757 with blended winglets such as the 764 and 773ER would look awesome!!!
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RE: Continental Winglets?

Thu Jul 01, 2004 7:47 pm

It sucks that it is so long until the winglets get installed...how hard can it be?

The 757 winglets need to be manufactured and certified... not a trivial process. The others is probably just CO waiting in line.


Will the winglets on the 757's be blended or upward-curving such as the 737-800's? Just think the 757 with blended winglets such as the 764 and 773ER would look awesome!!!


The 737-800 features a blended winglet. The 773ER and 764 feature a raked wingtip.

The 757 will have blended winglets.

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