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SAA 747SP?

Thu Jul 01, 2004 4:28 am

This afternoon when landing at JNB I saw a SAA 747SP parked at Denel Aviation (on the other side of JNB airport), it looked intact and in full SAA colours, any idea what that's all about? I thought all SAA SPs were long gone...
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RE: SAA 747SP?

Thu Jul 01, 2004 5:28 am

All SAA SP's:

ZS-SPA Stored JNB 12/99 Broken up 18/10/02
ZS-SPB Last user: Panair N747KV. Stored 17/10/03 in US.
ZS-SPC Stored JNB 10/99 full colors WFU 10/03
ZS-SPD Last user: Corsair F-GTOM. Ferried CHR 16/9/02. Broken up.
ZS-SPE Stored JNB 22/01/04 All white.
ZS-SPF Written off 5/10/98 Maputo. Parted out 8/99

The aircraft you saw was probably ZS-SPC.

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I hope this answers your question.

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RE: SAA 747SP?

Thu Jul 01, 2004 11:18 am

Guys,

SA's 747-SP's will always have a very special place in my heart. My very first Atlantic crossing was on an SA 747-SP in 1981 (I was just an 11yo boy) from GIG to CPT! I loved the flight and continued later on an SA 742 from JNB-MAD-ORY, on my first trip ever to Europe!

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RE: SAA 747SP?

Thu Jul 01, 2004 4:57 pm

Weren´t there 2 airlines who planned to aquire them? One of them a freight operator (!!!). That plan sounded strange to me, and now it obviously failed. It would be nice though if one of these birds would fly again!
 
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RE: SAA 747SP?

Thu Jul 01, 2004 5:16 pm

It would be good to see them fly again. QF used to fly theirs into AKL and WLG all the time, and it was neat to see the squashed up 747.

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RE: SAA 747SP?

Thu Jul 01, 2004 5:30 pm

I used to love flying on the 74L - my favourite version of the 747 !

Re: ZS-SPF Written off 5/10/98 Maputo. Parted out 8/99

What happened ? SPF was the only SA 74L I flew on (GIG-CPT-JNB and MAD-JNB) - shame it got banged up.
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RE: SAA 747SP?

Thu Jul 01, 2004 5:46 pm

According to http://www.747sp.com/21263.html this particular aircraft had quite a checkered career, serving with SAA, Air Mauritius, Namib Air and LAM among others. It sucked a bird on take off from Maputo on October 5 1998 (my birthday by concidence) and the engine caught fire, burning through a wing panel and the damage was considered not economical to repair.

Edited to correct year of incident.

[Edited 2004-07-01 10:56:05]
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RE: SAA 747SP?

Thu Jul 01, 2004 5:54 pm

That ZS-SPF was written off sounds dramatic because people who don´t know might think of an accident. But is was just a blown engine which damaged the wing which put an end to this already old aircraft. Plus it happened in a place with no facilities to repair it. It just wasn´t worth to repair it. If it would have been just 5 years younger they wouldn´t have condemned it.
In this case its similar to events like the Hydro Air incident in Lagos last year or the landing accident of Cameroons sole 747 3 1/2 years ago. Age vs. value.
 
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RE: SAA 747SP?

Thu Jul 01, 2004 6:16 pm

Thanks for the info - sad end for a beautiful old bird.
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RE: SAA 747SP?

Thu Jul 01, 2004 7:40 pm

IVO:

Can you please confirm that SPD really IS broken up ?

>ZS-SPD Last user: Corsair F-GTOM. Ferried CHR 16/9/02. Broken up

If so, what's your source and do you have a date for it ?
When was the last time anyone saw it at CHR ?

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RE: SAA 747SP?

Thu Jul 01, 2004 8:15 pm

Tommy

I was about to check on YOUR website for this info, which wouldn't have helped I guess! According to airfleets.net ZS-SPD was "STD Chateauroux 17/09/02" (whatever that means).
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RE: SAA 747SP?

Thu Jul 01, 2004 8:22 pm

STD means Stored, I think.
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RE: SAA 747SP?

Thu Jul 01, 2004 8:30 pm

here's a couple of pictures of what happened to ZS-SPA (apologies for the poor quality)



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RE: SAA 747SP?

Thu Jul 01, 2004 8:39 pm

Thats really sad ! Poor old thing - this was the aircraft that broke the distance record by flying nonstop Seattle-Cape Town, way back when - that record stood for years.

When did they start breaking up aircraft at JIA ? I don't remember that going on in my day (yes I am old !)
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RE: SAA 747SP?

Thu Jul 01, 2004 9:03 pm

http://www.jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php?id=265420&PHPSESSID=059c9d1a0a5f01f2ee0825e899a24957

This is how F-GTOM looked like in April. Less than a 1% chance it will return to the skies I´m afraid.
 
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RE: SAA 747SP?

Fri Jul 02, 2004 2:11 am

My info came from:

http://www.airlinerlist.com


You can download all the c/n from Airbus, Boeing and others and is recently updated.

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RE: SAA 747SP?

Fri Jul 02, 2004 5:52 pm

ANDZ:

Yes, I was there when they broke her up. Terrible sight!
Sad to see them chop her up like that.....

IVO:

Ok, thanks. Looking at that site it says:
F-GTOM Corsair rr s31.03.96 STD sORY, Sarl Corsair Avtn r29.12.00, frd ORY-->CHR fcs 16.09.02, TT 78148 14983 l, s20.03.04

Which means she's still only STORED, not broken up.
That's good news. From the photo NA posted link too, I'd say she's in pretty good shape and will be able to fly again if someone needs her.


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RE: SAA 747SP?

Fri Jul 16, 2004 11:15 pm

F-GTOM should stay at CHR.
By the way, I saw it at 11a.m.
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RE: SAA 747SP?

Sat Jul 17, 2004 2:20 am

I read F-GTOM needs a D-check soon. I doubt it will fly again. If I was rich I'de rescue it  Smile
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RE: SAA 747SP?

Sat Jul 17, 2004 7:54 am

Iran Air's 4 747-SP86 are very much flying and can be seen regularly in Beijing, Heathrow, Kastrup and Narita. If you don't fancy flying to Iran, you can fly them on the following routes:
Beijing-Narita-Beijing
Beijing-Inchon-Beijing
Dubai-Dacca-Dubai
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RE: SAA 747SP?

Sat Jul 17, 2004 11:01 am

This was the aircraft that broke the distance record by flying nonstop Seattle-Cape Town, way back when - that record stood for years.

It did? When? What's the record now? SIN-EWR is only 9,534 miles, while SEA-CPT is 10,215 miles...
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RE: SAA 747SP?

Sat Jul 17, 2004 11:42 am

The SEA-CPT flight was a delivery flight from Boeing to SAA. It was not a scheduled flight with paying passengers!!

Just like the BA flight soon after the 747-400 came on. The LHR-SYD was a not a scheduled passenger flight.

The SIN-EWR is the longest scheduled passenger flight in the world.
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