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Aer Lingus New Routes Winter 2004

Fri Jul 02, 2004 3:05 am

Some new routes for EI - looks like the new 320s are going to be put to use. Note that, once again, there are no new longhaul announcments.

Las Palmas and Lanzarote services resemble charter service.

Source: aerlingus.com

Aer Lingus announces four new routes for winter 2004

Introductory fares from €9 each way Airline's network more than doubled in less than three years
Aer Lingus today announced the introduction of four new routes from Dublin to Europe in its winter schedule this year. This expansion brings to seventeen the number of new routes introduced in 2004, and supports the airline's growing European operation to and from Ireland.

Services to Liverpool, Las Palmas, Lanzarote and Budapest will start at the end of October 2004.

Announcing the expansion, Chief Executive, Willie Walsh, said, " The introduction of these new routes reaffirm Aer Lingus' commitment to providing direct, low fares access for Irish customers to new destinations as well as providing real growth opportunities in inbound tourism from emerging markets.

"We have more than doubled our network in less than three years and all our new routes are performing extremely well, providing new and exciting travel opportunities for our customers, " Mr Walsh concluded.

Introductory each way fares excluding taxes and charges are available on www.aerlingus.com, and start from:

Liverpool €9 Budapest €74
Las Palmas €135 Lanzarote €135


The airline will operate a daily service to Liverpool, while flights to Budapest will operate four days a week - on Monday, Wednesday, Friday and Sunday. A weekly service on Saturdays will operate to and from Lanzarote and Las Palmas.

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RE: Aer Lingus New Routes Winter 2004

Fri Jul 02, 2004 4:06 am

EI return to Liverpool where Ryanair are the only carrier to DUB at present. (Many years ago EI were forced to drop LPL, in favour of FR by the Government. At that stage Fr were not doing too well, hard as that might be to believe now.) Let the games begin.

Incidentally EI are also dropping their basic TAB frequent flyer programme, - only the gold circle tiers will be retained.
 
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RE: Aer Lingus New Routes Winter 2004

Fri Jul 02, 2004 8:15 am

What are the possible, viable long haul destinations that EI can start?
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RE: Aer Lingus New Routes Winter 2004

Fri Jul 02, 2004 9:06 pm

EI have to start a route into Asia. How often have we discussed this but still there has been no announcement. HKG, SIN, DXB have all been mentioned, EI get your finger out. And a route into South Africa should be started too. I know that EI want to start new US routes but are they going to just sit back ond concentrate on European flights until the Irish and US governments sort out the bi-lateral agreement. They will be left behind if that is their plan
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RE: Aer Lingus New Routes Winter 2004

Fri Jul 02, 2004 9:14 pm

EI returns to Liverpool mainly because of a better fleet utilisation, right?Instead of letting the aircraft stand in Dublin, they operate two short flights. As long as the variable costs are compensated it makes sense.

This is why they fly Dublin-Bristol as well.

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RE: Aer Lingus New Routes Winter 2004

Fri Jul 02, 2004 9:54 pm

I'm really pleased for Aer Lingus regarding their LPL service. For many years they could not fly this route due to government restrictions. EI have reviewed this route over and over again over the past five years, and with their lower costs can now operate the route.

Aer Lingus used to be the preffered airline of Liverpool FC - not sure if this is the case anymore.

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RE: Aer Lingus New Routes Winter 2004

Fri Jul 02, 2004 10:35 pm


Those routes will all be operated with the 737-500, the last sets of new routes, Warsaw etc. seem to be switching to A320's.
 
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RE: Aer Lingus New Routes Winter 2004

Fri Jul 02, 2004 10:41 pm

Note that, once again, there are no new longhaul announcments.

Once new US/Ireland treaty agreements are worked out, Miami and/or San Francsico will be announced. Unfortunately, EI cannot fly to either. There are reliable rumours that say that if EI just can't get access to Miami, they'll have AA do it.
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RE: Aer Lingus New Routes Winter 2004

Fri Jul 02, 2004 10:47 pm

I Wonder if the LPA and Lanzarote flights will get an IB code?
 
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RE: Aer Lingus New Routes Winter 2004

Fri Jul 02, 2004 10:59 pm

At only once weekly, I doubt it, but every $$$ counts.
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RE: Aer Lingus New Routes Winter 2004

Fri Jul 02, 2004 11:04 pm

I'm amazed that EI can get hold of the passengers to do these new routes. Ireland has such a small population that it must mean the entire population would have to travel about 5 times a year each!

Regardless of the fare offered no one would think of initially routing westbound to go eastbound. A codeshare would seem the obvious way forward.

I'm really pleased that EI are getting their act together and expanding.
and with that..cabin crew, seats for landing please.
 
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RE: Aer Lingus New Routes Winter 2004

Fri Jul 02, 2004 11:55 pm

Dont get me wrong, Im really happy that further new routes have been announced, especially to eastern Europe. For ages there was only the Prague service but now Budapest along with the recently started Warsaw flights have expanded EI's operations well. But I just think they have to be looking further afield. I agree with MAH4546 that AA may well operate the MIA-DUB flights with an EI codeshare, and perhaps other US flights, I heard somewhere that AA could operate DFW-DUB flights too. But EI have to use their membership of OneWorld better and link up with QF and CX to give them access to Asia and Australia.

As for IB codesharing on the LPA or Lanzarote flights, I dont see it happening. They only codeshare on the MAD and BCN routes at the moment, surely Valencia would be a higher priority for a codeshare.
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RE: Aer Lingus New Routes Winter 2004

Sat Jul 03, 2004 12:31 am

Babybus,

You live on an island too, so you know about that burning desire to get off it once and a while!  Wink/being sarcastic Irish people take on average four foreign holidays per year, and of course there is the large inbound market too. Since the ecomony picked up (we actually are the second richest EU country in terms of GDP per head) we've been travelling much more too for short breaks.


It is proving very difficult to get seats to europe at short notice this summer. I've been trying to practically anywhere EI fly for next week and it's proving difficult to say the least!
 
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RE: Aer Lingus New Routes Winter 2004

Sat Jul 03, 2004 12:39 am

Will EI continue serving DBV this winter or is it just a summer service?
 
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RE: Aer Lingus New Routes Winter 2004

Sat Jul 03, 2004 12:41 am

Flycro,

Year round as far as I can gather. It's in the winter timetable online.
 
BestWestern
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RE: Aer Lingus New Routes Winter 2004

Sat Jul 03, 2004 12:44 am

Dont fall for that GDP figure that sayes that Ireland is the second richest nation in Europe. Its so goddamed high because of all the exports from Intel and Pfizer. Better to look at GNP, which shows ireland where it rightly falls - about half way down the list.

End of Economics lesson.  Smile
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snnams
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RE: Aer Lingus New Routes Winter 2004

Sat Jul 03, 2004 12:47 am

Bestwestern,

There are a very many views on that, so I wont argue!  Wink/being sarcastic Where did you get the GNP figure out of interest?
 
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RE: Aer Lingus New Routes Winter 2004

Sat Jul 03, 2004 12:54 am

Economist article about six months ago - sorry I dont have it to hand at present - article was discussing the perils of using GDP to decipher growth - excellent example is India were GDP is skyrocketing, but GNP is virtually static - basically the exports from outsourcing is having little local impact. They also discussed Ireland as another example, with the example of Viagra adding 0.3% to Irelands GDP growth in its first year of launch (Viagra is made in Ireland).

End of Economics lesson two.  Smile
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Eirules
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RE: Aer Lingus New Routes Winter 2004

Sat Jul 03, 2004 12:57 am

Can we please stick to the point, unless Viagara and Aer Lingus are somehow linked (and I dont want any mile high jokes!!!!)
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snnams
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RE: Aer Lingus New Routes Winter 2004

Sat Jul 03, 2004 1:04 am

EIRules,

Sorry dude!  Wink/being sarcastic But it must be said, you'd need Viagra to make some of the older EI hosties look attractive...

(waiting for mass onslaught from EI "mature" crew)....
 
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RE: Aer Lingus New Routes Winter 2004

Sat Jul 03, 2004 1:30 am

So if an Irish businessman wants to go to LPA for a meeting on a Friday they could fly out via MAD to LPA and return direct from LPA to DUB on EI, a bit more convenient than both ways via MAD, if the LPA to DUB flight had an IB code! Alliance member airlines are supposed to work together to satify their high end passengers, because that is where the profit margins are.
 
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RE: Aer Lingus New Routes Winter 2004

Sat Jul 03, 2004 4:22 am

When EK start services to DUB wouldn't it have a huge impact on any potential EI route to Asia. I imagine the market is not big enough to support two carriers.
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Eirules
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RE: Aer Lingus New Routes Winter 2004

Sun Jul 04, 2004 12:53 am

When are EK starting to fly to DUB? Where is there information on this?
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