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Captain Flying The Right Seat

Sun Jul 04, 2004 6:25 pm

I came across this picture, and assuming that the pilot in the left seat isn't doing I.O.E., why is the Captain in the right seat?


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VonRichtofen
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RE: Captain Flying The Right Seat

Sun Jul 04, 2004 6:45 pm

Could he be training his co-pilot for a Captain's position?
 
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RE: Captain Flying The Right Seat

Sun Jul 04, 2004 10:20 pm

umm Look gain......SHE is training him...  Smile

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RE: Captain Flying The Right Seat

Sun Jul 04, 2004 10:24 pm

I said, other than I.O.E. why would she be in the right seat?
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RE: Captain Flying The Right Seat

Mon Jul 05, 2004 12:44 am

Sorry talking about vonrichtofens post...

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RE: Captain Flying The Right Seat

Mon Jul 05, 2004 1:19 am

or *HE* could be upgrading to Captain... i know some pilots do let FO's sit left seat to help them transition a bit..

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RE: Captain Flying The Right Seat

Mon Jul 05, 2004 1:31 am

Could be any number of reasons, perhaps the F/O wanted time in the left seat, or the Captain wanted time in the right seat. All Captains are qualified to be First Officers, as somebody else mentioned, maybe the F/O was going to be upgraded and wanted to get some practise. Depending on what kind of aircraft, maybe it was the relief cruise pilot.
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flymia
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RE: Captain Flying The Right Seat

Mon Jul 05, 2004 1:52 am

Well there is no Relief Cruise Pilot in a B1900 but the FO must be training to be a Captain soon or durring that flight. Or maybe they just got there uniforms messed up?  Smile
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VonRichtofen
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RE: Captain Flying The Right Seat

Mon Jul 05, 2004 1:53 am

Sorry not everybody knows what I.O.E is...
 
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RE: Captain Flying The Right Seat

Mon Jul 05, 2004 2:00 am

Sorry not everybody knows what I.O.E is...

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RE: Captain Flying The Right Seat

Mon Jul 05, 2004 2:01 am

Sorry not everybody knows what I.O.E is...

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RE: Captain Flying The Right Seat

Mon Jul 05, 2004 2:25 am

One F/O said that no one can sit in that seat but the captain. I guess it is a company rule. If something goes wrong and the captain is not there, it's a problem. I can understand, he is ultimately responsible. They probably appreciate this rule. I'm sure there are exceptions.

Maybe he just hasn't gotten his new uniform or epaulet covers?

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RE: Captain Flying The Right Seat

Mon Jul 05, 2004 3:29 am

"All Captains are qualified to be First Officers"

Not so, once they become a Captain they cannot carry out their duties from the right seat unless their company trains them to do so.

My previous company had a policy of training their Captains to fly from the right seat 6 months after their command, which gave them more flexibility with Captains on standby who were checked out in the right seat and so could replace a First Officer as well as a Captain.

Those who had just become Captains though could not occupy this seat.

A First Officer may not occupy the left seat unless on a command course, in my airline that invoves:

  • About 12 sectors as PICUS (In Command, under supervision) with a Training Captain but occupying his accustomed (right) seat.


  • 5 Sim Details (familiarisation with LHS, LHS base check, LHS IRR, LHS AWOPS, Loss of all engines)


  • 16 Sectors Route Training in the LHS, followed by a Route Check over 2 sectors by a Management Pilot


  • Every airline does it differently, but I guess this pilot is on his command route training. With any luck his 4th stripe will follow within a few weeks!
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