LambertSTL777
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Amazing Race & UA,AA

Wed Jul 07, 2004 11:11 am

It seems UA & AA got quite an advertisement in the season premiere of the Amazing Race tonight. I lost count of how many times I heard & saw "United Airlines..American Airlines" I wonder how much they had to pay/how many free tickets they had to give up for this publicity?  Smile Rock on UA & AA..
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luv2fly
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RE: Amazing Race & UA,AA

Wed Jul 07, 2004 11:18 am

It might be done as both hard dollars and what is known as soft dollars, i.e. free tickets in exchange for product placement and mentions.
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NW7E7
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RE: Amazing Race & UA,AA

Wed Jul 07, 2004 12:00 pm

Oh I missed it. Will it be replayed anytime soon??
 
LGA777
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RE: Amazing Race & UA,AA

Wed Jul 07, 2004 12:16 pm

How bout the free commercial for Thrifty Rent-a-Car, nice job Vincent, that was excellent customer service !

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LambertSTL777
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RE: Amazing Race & UA,AA

Wed Jul 07, 2004 12:22 pm

Yea, The Thrifty shuttle driver (Vincent) was going wayy above and beyond the call of duty driving the team to the hopsital in LAX traffic...
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MAH4546
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RE: Amazing Race & UA,AA

Wed Jul 07, 2004 12:23 pm

American Airlines is an official sponsor of the show, I don't think United Airlines is. If they were to charge airlines to be on thier show, then there would be problems. It is free product placement, for the most part.
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SpringbokUSA
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RE: Amazing Race & UA,AA

Wed Jul 07, 2004 12:55 pm

I am sure we will see some other airlines featured, even if they are not official sponsors. In the past this show has raced through South Africa and Australia and we wont see the AA birds there. I have read that Tanzania is a definite stop this year for the contestants.
 
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RE: Amazing Race & UA,AA

Wed Jul 07, 2004 1:31 pm

I saw some people from the "Amazing race" last year in Rotorua, NZ. I was thrilled at the time but there were no cameras there. I got a photo with one of them. I hope it's not some cheap NZ copy show.
Airlines featured on the show depend on the routes that the race requires. I remember seeing them flying airlines like SQ, UA, LH, AL, LX etc... so it is also good publicity for them, especially when they show the shots taken from the cabin (ie. shows off the IFE etc...).
 
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RE: Amazing Race & UA,AA

Wed Jul 07, 2004 9:34 pm

A bit OT, but...

In each of the previous seasons of the Amazing Race, the teams had to go to countries where Americans need visas to visit (Brazil and India come to mind, maybe there are others?).

Anyone know how they managed to just get on a plane and fly into Rio or Bombay or wherever? These visas have to be applied for in advance in the home country and can take a few days to be processed?

Unless the teams were made to get these visas before the race started, but then so much for the surprise!

Any clues, anyone?
 
7e72004
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RE: Amazing Race & UA,AA

Wed Jul 07, 2004 9:36 pm

Does United really operate the 747 from Miami to Uruguay/paraguay (whatever that country was *lol*) ??
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peteinmiami
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RE: Amazing Race & UA,AA

Wed Jul 07, 2004 10:22 pm

Well the country was Uruguay 7E72004 is not the same as well and the US and Canada are not the same!!!! Paraguay does not have access to any ocean. The answer to your question is NO, there is not United 747 service at all from Miami to South America , mainly 767
 
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RE: Amazing Race & UA,AA

Thu Jul 08, 2004 12:28 am

As far as the Visas go, the shows producers must secure them ahead of time for the participants. They may have them sign papers knowing they are for visas but not knowing which country or they could apply for several visas to different countries not knowing which they will actually be going to.
 
PDPsol
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RE: Amazing Race & UA,AA

Thu Jul 08, 2004 12:31 am

Frankly 7E72004, your question only strengthens the dreadful image others have of us as 'ugly Americans'. I would expect a vastly greater understanding of the world from a 26-35 year old 'attorney from Indianapolis'; rather sad...

Uruguay is not Paraguay; the two countries do not bear any resemblance to each other, either historically, culturally or socially. As Peteinmiami has pointed out, Uruguay is on the S.Atlantic, Paraguay is landlocked in the middle of the continent.

Culturally, Uruguay could just as well be an extension of its neighbor to the west, Argentina, while Paraguay has a completely different cultural and social background.

Also, United flies its 763 to Montevideo (that's the capital city of Uruguay, BTW) and took over PanAm's flights in 1992. PanAm had been flying to Montevideo since the end of WWII and actually flew 747's there in the 70's/80's.

Also, while I love 'Amazing Race' and believe the show does a GREAT job of showing the realities of modern day travel, it can never replace the real thing.
 
7e72004
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RE: Amazing Race & UA,AA

Thu Jul 08, 2004 12:35 am

Pdposl...i really take offense from your comment...i did not catch the entire show so i was not exactly sure what country they were talking about. And with comments like that only strengthen the views of many outside of this country that Americans are snobs...unfortunatley you have to add to it. Now run along and play with your barbie dolls.
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MAH4546
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RE: Amazing Race & UA,AA

Thu Jul 08, 2004 12:39 am

As far as the Visas go, the shows producers must secure them ahead of time for the participants. They may have them sign papers knowing they are for visas but not knowing which country or they could apply for several visas to different countries not knowing which they will actually be going to.


IIRC, that is exactly what they do. I remember reading an article or interview somewhere. They have the contestents apply for tons of visas, most of which they never use.
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pizzaandplanes
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RE: Amazing Race & UA,AA

Thu Jul 08, 2004 12:44 am

How do you get on these types of shows? It would be awesome if someone on a.net got on it.
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gigneil
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RE: Amazing Race & UA,AA

Thu Jul 08, 2004 12:46 am

My partner and I are applying for next year's.

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PDPsol
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RE: Amazing Race & UA,AA

Thu Jul 08, 2004 12:49 am

7E72004,

The only people taking offense from anyone's comments here are those outside the US who throw up their arms in dispair when an American makes a comment such as:

Does United really operate the 747 from Miami to Uruguay/paraguay (whatever that country was *lol*) ??

What's so *lol* about confusing the names of two nations?

How could my commentary be perceived as even remotely 'snobbish'?

How can a 26-35 'attorney from Indianapolis' not be just a bit more perceptive and sensitive to people outside the US?
 
MAH4546
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RE: Amazing Race & UA,AA

Thu Jul 08, 2004 12:54 am

The Amazing Race 6 starts production next month and will air in late fall. The thing that sucks it the timeslot: 9PM ET/8PM CT on Saturdays! Grrr! Luckily, I love in the CT (Chicago) during the fall, so it shouldn't be that hard to catch since its on early, but I just hate it when networks put good shows on Saturdays.
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MAH4546
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RE: Amazing Race & UA,AA

Thu Jul 08, 2004 12:57 am

Oh yeah, and for those that want to apply...

http://www.cbs.com/primetime/amazing_race_application/

The app is probably for season 7. CBS has not signed a seventh season, but the show gets healthy ratings (about 10-11M), has won an Emmy, and is very cheap to produce, so it is very likely.
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sq452
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RE: Amazing Race & UA,AA

Thu Jul 08, 2004 2:11 am

It will be replayed, sometime on saturday, check the CBS sched.

UA also flies their Montevideo route via Buenos Aires, something that most people did not know.

I have always wondered about the visas, and also when the contestants say "we got the last two seats on the plane" what about the cameraman for each team???

My guesses as to the next countries they will visit is as follows:

Argentina, Iceland, Sweden/Norway/Finland, Tanzania, India, Cambodia, China, Fiji and back to the U.S.

They have not done China yet and I wouldnt be surprised if they showed up in Shanghai or Hangzhou or Beijing, that would be sweet. I remember when they were in Singapore and how much I was freaking out because it reminded me of my home away from home  Sad

UA and AA got a lot of free airtime. Thrifty should use Vincent in some commercials now.

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PDPsol
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RE: Amazing Race & UA,AA

Thu Jul 08, 2004 2:23 am

Neil,

Best of luck on your application for next year's 'Amazing Race'; I am crossing my fingers for you guys!

It would great to have a fellow a.net member 'run the race' and win; and provide a bunch of great stories for everyone.

 
kurt
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RE: Amazing Race & UA,AA

Thu Jul 08, 2004 2:34 am

Sq452:

I think they have done China on AR. They were definitely in Beijing and on the Great Wall. Can't remember what season, though.

Wish they would try going westbound, though. I guess it doesn't work logistically, but it would be cool to see them do, say, EZE-SCL-PPT-AKL (is that right - does Lan Chile still fly from SCL to AKL with a stop in Polynesia somwhere?).

Love the show, though. TiVo was made for stuff like this to catch all the little details that go by so fast and pick up on clues.
 
PDPsol
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RE: Amazing Race & UA,AA

Thu Jul 08, 2004 2:47 am

Kurt,

LAN's flight to Sydney only stops in Aukland, so the route is SCL-ACK-SYD.

However, you are absolutely correct in that LAN does have a flight to Papeete, but it is completely separate from the N.Zealand/Australia flight.
The LAN (IATA code:LA) flight to Papeete, Tahiti actually stops at Easter Island, Chile, midway in the Pacific so the routing is: SCL-IPC-PPT.

LA has a great set of route maps on its website: www.lan.com
 
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RE: Amazing Race & UA,AA

Thu Jul 08, 2004 2:59 am

Fellow A.netters:
A couple of notes. First, when someone applies for a visa to a foreign country, they must be physically present. So CBS cannot apply for them. Second, neither AA nor UA (if I'm not mistaken) operate a flight straight to Montevideo. It is usually via Rio or Buenos Aires. However, the show mentioned a "longer layover" and a "shorter layover". This was probably the stop in one of those places.
The reason they choose two airplanes is to separate the teams. Imagine if the entire group flew together in one airplane. What drama is that? So, they probably tell the contestants that they have "8 seats on United, 8 seats on AA" (for example) so that's why they say "I got the last two seats on this flight". The flights were not full, from what I could see. Remember, when they checked in they used a "reference code" or something like that. The same was done with the ferries. They had one at 8, one at 8:30, one at 9. No doubt the ferries take more people but these are the obstacles that the producers place on the contestants.
I enjoyed the show.
So how come no one has made any comments in my thread about the new TV show on NBC? Take a look at the threads.
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sebwhite
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RE: Amazing Race & UA,AA

Thu Jul 08, 2004 3:00 am

Pdpsol: I'd love to see SCL-Nantucket-SYD. Surely you mean AKL  Smile
 
PDPsol
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RE: Amazing Race & UA,AA

Thu Jul 08, 2004 3:13 am

Oh jeez! Yes, absolutely, AkL as in Auckland, N.Zealand! Not ACK, as in Nantucket, MA! By the way, ACK has quite a TV history itself as it was the locale for the show, 'Wings', a marginally amusing sit-com starring Tim Daly and Steven Weber that ran from 1990-1997.

FLY2LIM,

Both UA's and AA's daily flights to MVD are via EZE. UA has daily nonstops to EZE from IAD and ORD, while AA has two daily nonstops to EZE from MIA and one daily nonstop from JFK and another from DFW. Both carriers 'channel' all their MVD traffic at EZE and continue onto MVD on a 763.

Sidenote: AA used to fly to MVD from GRU and switched to EZE around 2001.
 
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RE: Amazing Race & UA,AA

Thu Jul 08, 2004 6:15 am

how come, if the flight went through EZE, they didn't mention that or put it on the map. 1 more stop is not confusing.

Also, the stiches thing and all was real, and not added for dramatic effect, right? What would have happened had they missed their flights. I get the feeling that the times they put in there are made up, also for dramatic effect...at 2:30pm, they would have closed the flight!

the United ticket agent noticed he was on camera and said "Thanks for flying the freindly skies" in his cheesiest "I want to be on TV" voice...anyone else catch that!?!?

Finnally, the people at Amazing Race said something about Airfare being included and not to pay for it....it will be interesting to see how that works when you got 100 different possible connections in a foreign country that has never heard of the Amazeing Race!
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SpringbokUSA
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RE: Amazing Race & UA,AA

Thu Jul 08, 2004 8:16 am

I think I saw parts of Dubai's coastline in one of the previews so good possibility that they will be travelling to Dubai....
 
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RE: Amazing Race & UA,AA

Thu Jul 08, 2004 8:32 am

HAHA! Vincent the Thrifty car guy! He definitely went well out of his way on the show last night.

But not for nothing, if I'm driving the rental car shuttle and two people plus at least one or two others carrying expensive-looking cameras and microphones pull up, I'm gonna go out of my way to help them! At the risk of delaying a few other customers, Vincent just got himself on national television and helped the Thrifty name at the same time! Hell, he probably got a raise (he should!).
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RE: Amazing Race & UA,AA

Thu Jul 08, 2004 10:20 am

Most of the aircraft you see in that show are not the actually aircraft the contestants are on. And on a side note, I really hope Alison & Donny wins the 1 million dollars.
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gigneil
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RE: Amazing Race & UA,AA

Thu Jul 08, 2004 10:25 am

I hope they win too.

I am SO sad that Dennis and Erika got eliminated. Dennis is SO hot and I thought Erika was adorable.

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MAH4546
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RE: Amazing Race & UA,AA

Thu Jul 08, 2004 10:30 am

also for dramatic effect...at 2:30pm, they would have closed the flight!


As if they are going to deny boarding on television so they, United Airlines, look like the "bad guys" on national television. That's not going to happen.

Finnally, the people at Amazing Race said something about Airfare being included and not to pay for it....it will be interesting to see how that works when you got 100 different possible connections in a foreign country that has never heard of the Amazeing Race!

It works very well. This is nothing new; the show is in its fifth season. The team is given a credit card (I belive it is held by the camera crew) that they can use to charge airfare. They don't go up to the ticket counter, say "we're on the Amazing Race, put it on thier bill."

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jasepl
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RE: Amazing Race & UA,AA

Thu Jul 08, 2004 6:45 pm

They have the contestents apply for tons of visas, most of which they never use.

Considering there's not that many countries for which Americans do require visas, wouldn't that kind of dilute tme element of surprise?
 
kurt
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RE: Amazing Race & UA,AA

Fri Jul 09, 2004 5:41 am

FLY2LIM:

"First, when someone applies for a visa to a foreign country, they must be physically present."

Not true. You can designate an agent to present your application materials at the consulate to have your visa issued. This is a big business for companies like Travisa. Or you could have your brother-in-law take your stuff down and turn it in  Smile
 
COAB767
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RE: Amazing Race & UA,AA

Fri Jul 09, 2004 5:56 am

I agree with you gigneil, Dennis is a total hottie too bad he got eliminated. Also The Amazing Race 6 premiers in September so expect the teams to be announced in August. I hope season 6 has some hotties!!!
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RE: Amazing Race & UA,AA

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