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Iberia Prepares For 1st Boeing 747-400

Wed Jul 07, 2004 7:26 pm

Iberia's first Boeing 747-400 is here!!! in Singapore in full livery but still with Singapore Airlines registration 9V-SMC. The aircraft will be operated by Air Atlanta Icelandic with the registration TF-AMA
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RE: Iberia Prepares For 1st Boeing 747-400

Wed Jul 07, 2004 8:14 pm

Arrived a while ago and has already begun operations in full IB colours, although no pictures yet of it wearing the Icelandic reg.:


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RE: Iberia Prepares For 1st Boeing 747-400

Wed Jul 07, 2004 9:46 pm

Any idea when will have the chance to see it here in MAD?

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RE: Iberia Prepares For 1st Boeing 747-400

Wed Jul 07, 2004 11:04 pm

LVZXV:

9V-SMC(TF-AMA) has not yet begun flying revenue flights for IB. Im not sure what the delay is, but as Soups pointed out...it is still in Singapore. I just got back from MAD yesterday and the aircraft was nowhere in sight. Flights are still being operated by B747-300(TF-ARS) while IB awaits the arrival of TF-AMA.

P.S. - You are in the UK now? You move around alot no?  Wink/being sarcastic
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RE: Iberia Prepares For 1st Boeing 747-400

Wed Jul 07, 2004 11:08 pm

no i am stuck in dxb lol look at my other thread about EK
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RE: Iberia Prepares For 1st Boeing 747-400

Wed Jul 07, 2004 11:13 pm

Sorry Soups...that comment was for LVZXV...lol. He was in Monaco before.
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RE: Iberia Prepares For 1st Boeing 747-400

Thu Jul 08, 2004 12:09 am

Iberia340600:

Thanks for the correction. Yes, these last two years I've done a fair amount of travelling (40 flights in 2003 and 24 flights so far this year!). Until IB's 744 arrives, I'm afraid you'll just have to contend with this one:


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RE: Iberia Prepares For 1st Boeing 747-400

Thu Jul 08, 2004 1:00 am

I guess these planes, being ex SIA, have personal IFE. They would be the only ones in IB's fleet with this feature. Can anybody confirm?
Also, do these a/c replace the A330s that IB was supposed to be leasing from TAM or LTU?
 
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RE: Iberia Prepares For 1st Boeing 747-400

Thu Jul 08, 2004 1:06 am

They have IFE. I have been on one of them (9V-SFE) as far back as 1996, and even then they had!!!
 
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RE: Iberia Prepares For 1st Boeing 747-400

Thu Jul 08, 2004 2:27 am

Summa767: Yes they are replacing the A330's that were supposed to be leased...cant say I know why they were not leased.

LVZXV: Je je...vaya fotos  Wink/being sarcastic I have to admit...AR's 747-400's look nice. But IB's will look nicer  Wink/being sarcastic Es broma tio! Saludos!
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RE: Iberia Prepares For 1st Boeing 747-400

Thu Jul 08, 2004 3:13 am


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They have IFE. I have been on one of them (9V-SFE) as far back as 1996, and even then they had!!!

I wonder if the cargo containers have their PTVs fitted with Wisemen3000?  Big grin Just kidding...
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RE: Iberia Prepares For 1st Boeing 747-400

Thu Jul 08, 2004 5:01 am

Iberia340600:

I must admit, I love the blue of the new AR livery but it's a little rich with the white. Imagine their 744 in this colour-scheme:


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IB's 744 looks good too, though it could do with an update, in my opinion. By the way, for how much longer are IB planning to retain the 747 Classics? AR is down to four already, soon to be three... Who will be the first?  Big grin

Saludos amigo!

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RE: Iberia Prepares For 1st Boeing 747-400

Thu Jul 08, 2004 5:16 am

XV:
Do you really like AR current livery? In my honest humble opinion, it's one of the worst arround! "traté de ser VS en azul, pero no me resultó".
As you said, the best AR livery was the oldest one, with this beautiful "A"s in the tail.
I would try that, but with a touch of "today".
BTW, wasn't current AR livery supposed to be temporary?
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RE: Iberia Prepares For 1st Boeing 747-400

Thu Jul 08, 2004 6:20 am

Good for Iberia, I flew them on the weekend on a 343 from JNB-MAD and am flying that route again on the 23rd of July, just because that aircraft has "decent" IFE, doesnt mean that Iberia will offer it.

Has there ever been any talk of Iberia upgrading there business or First Class or putting PTV in economy class?

 
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RE: Iberia Prepares For 1st Boeing 747-400

Thu Jul 08, 2004 7:20 am

I'm just curious toknow but, did IB get any 743's on lease lately? Are these still the ones that IB leased from Air Atlanta? Today I was outside and I saw an IB 747 which looked very much like a -300 model since it looked like it had a SUD without winglets coming into JFK. I know that IB is to lease two 744's but I thought that they had returned the 743's a while back.
 
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RE: Iberia Prepares For 1st Boeing 747-400

Thu Jul 08, 2004 7:38 am

Arcano:

I like the shade of blue and the fact that the fin, engines and winglets are fully painted, although sadly at the expense of the entire fuselage. I would have combined the "bincha" fuselage livery with painted fin, engines and winglets, or otherwise, with the current livery, written "AEROLINEAS ARGENTINAS" in a more stylish font, and, to be really radical, paint what is in blue on the starboard side of the fuselage (of the domestic fleet) red, in honour of Austral, who still exist, incidentally.
The current colours of AR could be temporary, but two years after their introduction, and with 43 of the 51 planes (84%) in service wearing them, it would be a bit of a waste of $$$$$$$ to repaint the fleet for nothing. What I have seen is that AR is slowly introducing a new celeste and navy-blue uniform for stewardesses, unveiled last year.
When in doubt, look to AR's parent company, Air Plus Comet. The most recent additions to their fleet illustrate no changes for the time being, so my advice is slip back into "wait and see" mode, the best view for developments in Latin America!  Wink/being sarcastic


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RE: Iberia Prepares For 1st Boeing 747-400

Thu Jul 08, 2004 8:14 am

I see, I just think this scheme does not work.
aesthetically, the fact that the fin is painted in X colors does not mean the engines can be painted the same and look fine. The white body just cut both blues and they get lost. VS has de same troubles.

BTW, the drafts I've seen of Aerolineas del Sur look also very similar; I mean it's basically AR livery, "con el toque chileno"
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RE: Iberia Prepares For 1st Boeing 747-400

Thu Jul 08, 2004 2:53 pm

Is the interior Iberian? Or Singaporean? Or Air Atlantan?
 
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RE: Iberia Prepares For 1st Boeing 747-400

Thu Jul 08, 2004 8:30 pm

Arcano:

Would the "toque chileno" comprise the Star of Arauco, by any chance? If so, how would it look? As for VS, well I think they got right in the end, certainly look far more snazzy than BA which flew through a violent colour storm (even a hurricane) between the Landor days and the current Union Flag. I've gone off BA tremendously. At a time they were my favourite airline. But not any longer...

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RE: Iberia Prepares For 1st Boeing 747-400

Fri Jul 09, 2004 12:52 am

LVZXV:

IB's Classics are down to three aircraft already  Smile/happy/getting dizzy EC-DIA/DIB/HVD. There are two Classics stored at La Muñoza, one without engines already. They are EC-IAF and EC-DNP. I am not sure what plan they have with those two aircraft...either sell them or scrap them. I would think that by the end of the year the last 2 Classics will be gone.

Mark777300:

Those are still the same 747-300's currently on lease. They have not been returned to Air Atlanta as of yet. The two 747-400's that are being wet-leased are to handle extra capacity. But rest assured that the 747-300's will be sticking around for a while longer.

lMonti:

IB will unveil a new Business/First with the arrival of its 4th A340-600 in October. From then on the new Business/First will be introduced into the A340-300's currently in the fleet as well as the new A340-600's that will be coming in.

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RE: Iberia Prepares For 1st Boeing 747-400

Fri Jul 09, 2004 2:22 pm

That's an absolutely gorgeous bird. Will the 744 replace the routes operated by the other 747 variation aircrafts operated by IB? Or will they operate completely different and longer routes? Aerolineas Argentina's 744 new livery also looks amazing.

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RE: Iberia Prepares For 1st Boeing 747-400

Fri Jul 09, 2004 2:37 pm

A330Fan1:

IB will start with HAV. I landed in HAV on march, and saw a 742 landing there. It actually surprised me, as South America is served with smaller 340s (does that aircraft continue the ride after HAV?).

That picture of AR is not their new livery, it's just a suggestion that some people does for fun. By right-clicking the photo you can get the source and look for another fine fake pictures!
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RE: Iberia Prepares For 1st Boeing 747-400

Mon Jul 12, 2004 5:22 am

The IB744s are in Spain...finally!!!

I just got back (5 hours ago) from the famous "Mega meet in Manchester" (organised by a few English a.net members) and as our BA A319 was taxiing to the gate I saw one of the 2 744s parked right behind the all-white 743 TF-ARS. They´re here!!!

BTW...the meet at MAN has been incredible!!!

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RE: Iberia Prepares For 1st Boeing 747-400

Mon Jul 12, 2004 6:32 am

Great I start work tomorrow, (Had a great holiday in Lanzarote) so I hope I get to see them. are they parked in La Muñoza?. Hope so then I might be able to climb in and have a look.  Big grin
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RE: Iberia Prepares For 1st Boeing 747-400

Mon Jul 12, 2004 7:01 am

Bullpitt:

I saw it right in front of Terminal 1 (on the tarmac, between A and B gates), and I am not 100% sure but I think I saw the engines running. It was impressive. I didn´t get to see the registration.

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RE: Iberia Prepares For 1st Boeing 747-400

Mon Jul 12, 2004 7:37 am

Wow, the 744 looks quite majestic in the IB color scheme! Also, that AR mockup is amazing. Most of the "wouldn't this be cool" schemes posted on here are fairly tacky and amateurish. I actually like that one. Bravo!
 
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RE: Iberia Prepares For 1st Boeing 747-400

Mon Jul 12, 2004 10:08 am

2nd Iberia 747-400 9V-SME is doing test flights today 12/7/04.
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RE: Iberia Prepares For 1st Boeing 747-400

Mon Jul 12, 2004 1:13 pm

Tsentsan:

Great news!! Thanks for the info. Let us know if by chance you are able to get a pic of the 2nd 747-400. If I am not mistaken, 9V-SME will be registered TF-AMB.

Interesting that TF-AMA has the spanish flag next to the registration in the back of the plane. Anyone else notice that? None of 747-300's leased from Air Atlanta have the spanish registration. Interesting...check it out:


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RE: Iberia Prepares For 1st Boeing 747-400

Mon Jul 12, 2004 2:03 pm

I don't mean to be harsh but who cares, they already had a 743 and the 744 is one step higher. If they want more range get an 777-300ER/LR, I think they'll be much happier, and so will I when I fly with them next time.
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RE: Iberia Prepares For 1st Boeing 747-400

Mon Jul 12, 2004 4:31 pm

A 14 year old 747-400 is available for affordable leasing rates nowadays, the 773ER is a prohibitively overpriced thing that absoluteley doesn´t fit in IB´s fleet. I´m tired of all these people desparately trying to write this moderate seller into alle airline fleets on this planet.
 
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RE: Iberia Prepares For 1st Boeing 747-400

Mon Jul 12, 2004 11:19 pm

VSXA380X800:

Maybe you dont care, but the rest of us that are leaving messages in this post DO CARE....so if you dont like it...dont read the post...simple as that.

It is the 1st 747-400 that IB is using...so excuse us if we are a little excited to see it in IB colors.

FYI...it would not make sense to even consider the 777 being that these 747-400's are just going to be on a 2 year lease.
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RE: Iberia Prepares For 1st Boeing 747-400

Tue Jul 13, 2004 12:18 am

Does Iberia plan to order its own original -400s from Boeing Confused
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RE: Iberia Prepares For 1st Boeing 747-400

Tue Jul 13, 2004 12:34 am

Thrust:

Truthfully, I do not think IB will be ordering any 747-400's but you never know. This lease could be a test to see how it fits into the fleet. I guess only time will tell!
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RE: Iberia Prepares For 1st Boeing 747-400

Tue Jul 13, 2004 12:48 am

I think the 747-400 in IB colours looks marvallous after seeing the plane in Changi. Sad to see the plane leaving SQ's fleet but nice to see them leaving for a new pasture.
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RE: Iberia Prepares For 1st Boeing 747-400

Tue Jul 13, 2004 12:50 am

If IB likes the operation costs and the profitabilty of the 744, wouldn't it be a good idea to actully make either SQ or UA a nice offer for those used PW powered 744 instead of buying new ones? I'm sure both airlines have some 744s for sale. I'm also sure that they are sold cheap enought that the crew training cost wouldn't be a problem. That would keep a nice balance between airbus and boeing aircrafts in Ib's fleet too.
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RE: Iberia Prepares For 1st Boeing 747-400

Tue Jul 13, 2004 5:05 am

-Iberia340600-

What? You're suppose to intimidate me,  Sleepy Please!.
I could say what ever I want.

What's so exciting about an aircraft that's practicaly operated by the airline(743) that has the same air frame and design that has more range( with no phycail change) to see it in the IBWow!Wow!rs? Come on, think about it!

....so if you dont like it...dont read the post...simple as that.

....So if you don't like what I have to say...don't read my reply...simple as that!

P.S. You suck at scaring people.

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RE: Iberia Prepares For 1st Boeing 747-400

Tue Jul 13, 2004 9:25 am

You know what? When I just read your post I was gonna say you are acting like a 10 year old....I guess I was not that far off since you are in the 13-15 age range.

Please do us a favor and grow up...Im not trying to scare or intimidate you...but if you cannot understand why we are excited about a 747-400 in IB colors then dont bother posting your remarks. Thank you.
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