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Is CO The Only US Carrier That Never Flew BOS-Eur?

Thu Jul 08, 2004 12:36 am

I CO the only major international US carrier (in existence) that has not flown trans-atlantic from BOS?
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RE: Is CO The Only US Carrier That Never Flew BOS-Eur?

Thu Jul 08, 2004 12:43 am

Add USAirways. As far as I can recall all their European services have been from PHL, CLT, and PIT.
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RE: Is CO The Only US Carrier That Never Flew BOS-Eur?

Thu Jul 08, 2004 12:45 am

US flew BOS-AB) (FRA / FRF / EDDF), Germany">FRA for a while.
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RE: Is CO The Only US Carrier That Never Flew BOS-Eur?

Thu Jul 08, 2004 12:47 am

I did not know that about US Airways was used from BOS to Frankfurt, Germany while.
 
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RE: Is CO The Only US Carrier That Never Flew BOS-Eur?

Thu Jul 08, 2004 1:00 am

Don't count on CO for ever doing any flying that doesn't involve one of their hubs. I think that they remain the most strictly hub-and-spoke airline out of the Big Six. They only have about 6 or 7 flights that don't begin or end in IAH, EWR, CLE, and many of them are a continuation of a previous flight or a wrap flight, such as UIO-BOG and GRU-GIG.

A few that come to mind are:

LAX-HNL
MFE-MEX
SAT-MEX
SEA-ANC
UIO-BOG
GRU-GIG

GUM is another story, however, with many point-to-point flights out in the South Pacific and Southeast Asia. The island hopper route comes to mind.
 
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RE: Is CO The Only US Carrier That Never Flew BOS-Eur?

Thu Jul 08, 2004 1:11 am

Continental is the most strict of the majors on the hub-and-spoke system, as Cory mentioned. Cory mentioned the only four point-to-point routes they operate: MFE-MEX, SAT-MEX, LAX-HNL, and SEA-ANC. This winter they will be adding a fifth, LAX-MTJ. They also operate some international tag-on routes (BOG-UIO and PTY-GYE with traffic rights; GRU-GIG without). Continental Micronesia and Continental Connection are a different story. COMike offers plenty of point-to-point routes and island hoppers. Continental Connection carrier Commutair has a hub in Albany, but also offers a handful fo point-to-point, like HPN-BWI. Connection carrier Gulfstream has a hub in FLL, but also flies a lot of Bahamas and intra-Florida routes, mainly from MIA and TPA. While Connection carrier Cape Air doesn't even fly to any CO hubs. They just fly MIA-APF, RSW-EYW, and TPA-RSW/DAB/SRQ.
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RE: Is CO The Only US Carrier That Never Flew BOS-Eur?

Thu Jul 08, 2004 1:21 am

Co did fly FLL-LGA and I blieve MCO-Lga and wasn't there also some flight between Tampa and Orlando to Richmond at one point around 2000. And also Didn't Co's flight's from Pensacola stop somewhere before going to Houston?
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RE: Is CO The Only US Carrier That Never Flew BOS-Eur?

Thu Jul 08, 2004 2:13 am

Not to let this post stray any further, but pre-9/11 CO was attempting to rebuild a presence at LGA using ERJs. Both Norfolk and Richmond were among the first cities that saw service. And I believe it was Norfolk that saw continuing service onto Florida, I think CO / KMCO), USA - Florida">MCO... Richmond might have had it too, but for some reason Norfolk sticks out in my mind.
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RE: Is CO The Only US Carrier That Never Flew BOS-Eur?

Thu Jul 08, 2004 2:16 am

If we want to go way back to the early 90's just think of the large amount of flights that CO had intra-florida wise. They also did operate a 733 from FLL-LAS that I do have in an old OAG.
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RE: Is CO The Only US Carrier That Never Flew BOS-Eur?

Thu Jul 08, 2004 2:20 am

Yes, I remember with those flight way back of 2000 was flying from LGA-FLL some of long time ago and now, it is no longer use service to LGA either. It is takeover with DL, AA, NK to LGA.
 
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RE: Is CO The Only US Carrier That Never Flew BOS-Eur?

Thu Jul 08, 2004 2:44 am

Continental began FLL-LGA and MCO-LGA in December 2000. The flights ended in September 2001, and both operated twice a day:
http://www.continental.com/vendors/default.asp?SID=41BAA3FE293B42E0B4A4B3C12DB0450B&s=&i=PRNews

In 1998, they also introduced a short-lived Los Angeles-San Salvador routes...
Continental Airlines Begins Non-Stop Service Between Los Angeles and San Salvador
HOUSTON, July 30, 1998 -- Continental Airlines today announced daily non-stop seasonal service between Los Angeles International Airport and San Salvador, El Salvador. The flights will operate during peak travel periods, from Aug. 1 - Sept. 9, and from Dec. 15 - Jan. 6, 1999.

http://www.continental.com/vendors/default.asp?SID=41BAA3FE293B42E0B4A4B3C12DB0450B&s=&i=PRNews

In mid-2001, they announced short lived Portland-Anchorage service:
Continental Airlines Announces New York/Newark-Portland (Ore.)-Anchorage Service
HOUSTON, July 24, 2001 -- Continental Airlines (NYSE: CAL) today announced it will offer daily one-stop service between Newark International Airport and Anchorage, Alaska via Portland, Ore. beginning Sept. 6.

Continental will operate a 150-seat Boeing 737-800 aircraft on the route, offering 18 seats in first class and 132 in coach. Continental is the only U.S. carrier to offer daily, same-plane roundtrip service between the New York area and Anchorage year-round.

http://www.continental.com/vendors/default.asp?SID=41BAA3FE293B42E0B4A4B3C12DB0450B&s=&i=PRNews

Also in mid-2001 was the short-lived White Plains-Washington/DCA route:
Continental Express Announces New Service from White Plains
NEW YORK, May 21, 2001 -- Continental Express, the regional airline subsidiary of Continental Airlines (NYSE: CAL), today announced new daily, non-stop service between White Plains, N.Y. (HPN), and Ronald Reagan Washington National Airport (DCA), effective Sept. 6, 2001.

Service will be operated four times daily using the new 37-passenger Embraer ERJ-135 regional jet.

http://www.continental.com/vendors/default.asp?SID=41BAA3FE293B42E0B4A4B3C12DB0450B&s=&i=PRNews

The HPN-DCA service was in addition to service from White Plains to Toronto and Boston, which they started early that year:
Continental Express Begins New Service from White Plains
Double OnePass miles offered for a limited time

HOUSTON, March 28, 2001 -- Continental Express, the regional airline subsidiary of Continental Airlines (NYSE: CAL), begins new non-stop service between White Plains, N.Y.; and Boston, Mass.; and Toronto, next week.

Service begins April 4, 2001, and will be operated using the new 37-passenger Embraer ERJ-135 regional jet.

http://www.continental.com/vendors/default.asp?SID=41BAA3FE293B42E0B4A4B3C12DB0450B&s=&i=PRNews

In September 2000, they introduced short-lived service on LaGuarida-Richmond, LaGuardia-Buffalo, Richmond-Tampa, and Richmond-Orlando:
NEW YORK, Sept. 6, 2000 -- Continental Express, the regional airline subsidiary of Continental Airlines (NYSE: CAL and CAL.A), will begin service from New York's LaGuardia to Buffalo, N.Y., and Richmond, Va., effective tomorrow....

Also effective tomorrow, Continental Express will begin daily non-stop service between Richmond and Tampa, Fla., and Orlando, Fla., offering the only non-stop service from Richmond to these two Florida cities.

http://www.continental.com/vendors/default.asp?SID=41BAA3FE293B42E0B4A4B3C12DB0450B&s=&i=PRNews

There was 2000's short-lived service between Madison, Wisconsin and LaGuardia:
Continental Express Announces Nonstop Service Between Madison, Wis. and LaGuardia
Continental Express to provide Madison's only nonstop service to New York City.
MADISON, Wis., Dec. 20, 2000 -- Continental Express, the regional airline subsidiary of Continental Airlines (NYSE: CAL and CAL.A), today announced that it will begin twice daily service between Madison, Wis. and New York's LaGuardia, effective Jan. 31, 2001.

http://www.continental.com/vendors/default.asp?SID=41BAA3FE293B42E0B4A4B3C12DB0450B&s=&i=PRNews

Also short lived were LaGuardia-Greensboro, LaGuardia-Syracuse, and LaGuardia-Rochester:
http://www.continental.com/vendors/default.asp?SID=41BAA3FE293B42E0B4A4B3C12DB0450B&s=&i=PRNews
http://www.continental.com/vendors/default.asp?SID=41BAA3FE293B42E0B4A4B3C12DB0450B&s=&i=PRNews
http://www.continental.com/vendors/default.asp?SID=41BAA3FE293B42E0B4A4B3C12DB0450B&s=&i=PRNews

Many of the LaGuardia routes were part of a planned service build-up out of LaGuardia for Continental, which included plans for flights to Albany, Grand Rapids, Hartford, Knoxville, and Savannah, among others. Most never became reality:
http://www.continental.com/vendors/default.asp?SID=41BAA3FE293B42E0B4A4B3C12DB0450B&s=&i=PRNews

Announced, but never started, was Knoxville-LaGuardia:
http://www.continental.com/vendors/default.asp?SID=41BAA3FE293B42E0B4A4B3C12DB0450B&s=&i=PRNews


Some of those destniations, like Grand Rapids, were not even served from Newark at the time. Many would eventually get non-stops to Newark (Grand Rapids did in November 2001).

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RE: Is CO The Only US Carrier That Never Flew BOS-Eur?

Thu Jul 08, 2004 2:45 am

Oh yes, and to add, in the early 1990s Continental flew MIA-LGW with a mix of A300s and 747s.
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RE: Is CO The Only US Carrier That Never Flew BOS-Eur?

Thu Jul 08, 2004 6:04 am

The A300 did not operate transatlantic for us, at least I never recall MIA-LGW as an A300 trip. Around that time MIA-IAH got the A300, but MIA-LGW was always DC-10 and 747. I doubt the Airbus had the legs for it, especially considering that they had a hell of a time even making EWR-LAX in either direction (most ran through DEN). In addition, our A300s were in a domestic configuration, never our old 3-class product or BusinessFirst.
 
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RE: Is CO The Only US Carrier That Never Flew BOS-Eur?

Thu Jul 08, 2004 8:07 am

MAH4546

Pretty impressive post.... I remember the announcement about building up the LGA Express flights... but then there was the delay situation that popped up when everyone added LGA flights....
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RE: Is CO The Only US Carrier That Never Flew BOS-Eur?

Thu Jul 08, 2004 9:06 am

Yeah, This is very long time ago about CO was used service from MIA-LGW some of long time ago, didn't they? I am sure will get more destination of those new cities anytime soon in the future.

I remember one of these flights from LGA before 9/11 and it is cut with some of those flights. It will not bring them back with old service to Florida again.  Sad
 
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RE: Is CO The Only US Carrier That Never Flew BOS-Eur?

Thu Jul 08, 2004 11:51 am

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RE: Is CO The Only US Carrier That Never Flew BOS-Eur?

Sat Jul 10, 2004 1:41 am

On second thought, green is my favorite color.
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