BlatantEcho
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EasyJet Airbus/Boeing Fleet?

Thu Jul 08, 2004 1:38 pm

Haven't heard peep about the integration of the A-319s into the EasyJet fleet.

They are the first LCC to really break away from the single fleet commonality.

Any news on how it's going. CASM up? Dispatch rates steady?

Just curious how it's working out so far.

George
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Ruscoe
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RE: EasyJet Airbus/Boeing Fleet?

Thu Jul 08, 2004 7:42 pm

I doubt they know the real picture themselves at this time. Airbus are basically absorbing the costs of intergration, so might be some time.

Ruscoe
 
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RE: EasyJet Airbus/Boeing Fleet?

Thu Jul 08, 2004 8:34 pm

This is why people call Airbus anti-competative. They give airlines like easyJet and jetBue almost free rides...
 
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RE: EasyJet Airbus/Boeing Fleet?

Thu Jul 08, 2004 8:45 pm

And they don't call Boeing anti-competitive?
 
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RE: EasyJet Airbus/Boeing Fleet?

Thu Jul 08, 2004 11:38 pm

Flyboy36:
C´moooon! And Boeing´s not???  Nuts
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RE: EasyJet Airbus/Boeing Fleet?

Thu Jul 08, 2004 11:43 pm

Boeing is not anti-competitive. If you want proof look at the USAF tanker deal--that was a display of real competition with the A330 tanker.  Big grin
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RE: EasyJet Airbus/Boeing Fleet?

Thu Jul 08, 2004 11:49 pm

I'm sorry but all Airbus are doing is absorbing the costs of changing fleet; this enabled EasyJet to make a decision on whether to go with Boeing or Airbus purely on the merits of each and not have to worry about their existing fleet and how it would impact their costs. If anything, it is very competitive in what they were doing.

As for the orginal question, I flew with them yesterday from London Luton to Glasgow on a 733. I think they are basing the different fleets at their different hubs - so Luton is all Boeing, Paris is all Airbus etc etc...
 
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RE: EasyJet Airbus/Boeing Fleet?

Thu Jul 08, 2004 11:50 pm

I wish Boeing would offer me the same deal that Airbus threw at EZY. More than 50% off the price and full maintenance and introductory cost protection? Please.

Why do think JetBlue came un-glued and demanded the same? It's that kind of discounting that makes financiers cringe at the Airbus product.
 
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RE: EasyJet Airbus/Boeing Fleet?

Thu Jul 08, 2004 11:56 pm

It does make me laugh the way so many Americans on a.net HATE the way Boeing is now the second largest producer of commercial jets behind Airbus!

The European Union is larger than than the United States economically, so why can't you accept that maybe airlines buy Airbus aircraft because they are very very good aircraft and not because they buy the business?

By the way, I am married to an American, so I love you all really...
 
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RE: EasyJet Airbus/Boeing Fleet?

Thu Jul 08, 2004 11:57 pm

@TrevD

Please give me a break!
"I wish Boeing would offer me the same deal that Airbus threw at EZY. More than 50% off the price and full maintenance and introductory cost protection? Please. "
I don't think you had access to the contract, did you? Therefore I don't see you in a position to make such comments........

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RE: EasyJet Airbus/Boeing Fleet?

Fri Jul 09, 2004 12:22 am

MD-11 forever,
Since jetBlue is publicly traded - the contract information for the Airbus aircraft can be found in the SEC filings. They will be usually filed as ammendments to 10-K or 8-K filings.

Try visiting the jetBlue Corporation Information webpage.

I don't know if the UK has the same filing requirements (I know that quarterly reports are not required), but in that case I would assume the information could be determined.
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BlatantEcho
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RE: EasyJet Airbus/Boeing Fleet?

Fri Jul 09, 2004 12:22 am

I'm sorry I asked.

Just wanted to know how crew integration was working. Blah blah.
Since JetBlue is going to be doing roughly the same thing soon, I'm wondering if with a big enough fleet, it won't really damage the typical LCC business plan.

Instead of any of that, I got a lesson on the EU and opinions on Boeing being anti-competitive.

George
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rwylie77
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RE: EasyJet Airbus/Boeing Fleet?

Fri Jul 09, 2004 1:05 am

George,

To answer your original question - it appears to be going very well. Their biggest issues affecting profits are high fuel costs and increasing competition in the LCC sector. They announced results on numbers flying etc yesterday:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/3872451.stm

I think by changing their fleet by hub it should make it an easier transformation as they can also do it gradually and not have overlap etc etc

I assume they plan on getting rid of all Boeing planes eventually? Especially as some from 'Go' were leased from GE?
 
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RE: EasyJet Airbus/Boeing Fleet?

Fri Jul 09, 2004 1:56 am

Just for records, here's the fleet:

B737-300 = 41
B737-700 = 33
A319 = 14/19 (19 including EZS fleet)

B737-300
G-EZYB
G-EZYC
G-EZYD
G-EZYF
G-EZYG
G-EZYH
G-EZYI
G-EZYJ
G-EZYK
G-EZYL
G-EZYM
G-EZYN
G-EZYO
G-EZYP
G-EZYR
G-EZYS
G-EZYT
G-IGOB
G-IGOG
G-IGOH
G-IGOI
G-IGOJ
G-IGOK
G-IGOL
G-IGOM
G-IGOO
G-IGOP
G-IGOR
G-IGOS
G-IGOT
G-IGOU
G-IGOV
G-IGOW
G-IGOX
G-IGOY
G-IGOZ
G-ODUS
G-OFRA
G-OGVA
G-OHAJ
G-OMUC

B737-700
G-EZJA
G-EZJB
G-EZJC
G-EZJD
G-EZJE
G-EZJF
G-EZJG
G-EZJH
G-EZJI
G-EZJJ
G-EZJK
G-EZJL
G-EZJM
G-EZJN
G-EZJO
G-EZJP
G-EZJR
G-EZJS
G-EZJT
G-EZJU
G-EZJV
G-EZJW
G-EZJX
G-EZJY
G-EZJZ
G-EZKA
G-EZKB
G-EZKC
G-EZKD
G-EZKE
G-EZKF
G-EZKG
G-OSLH

A319

HB-JZA - Geneva
HB-JZB - Geneva
HB-JZC - Geneva
HB-JZD - Geneva
HB-JZE - Geneva
G-EZEA - Gatwick
G-EZEB - Gatwick
G-EZEC - Gatwick
G-EZED - Gatwick
G-EZEF- Berlin Schonefeld
G-EZEG - Gatwick
G-EZEH - Gatwick
G-EZEI - Gatwick
G-EZEJ - Berlin Schonefeld
G-EZEK - Gatwick
G-EZEM - Gatwick
G-EZEN - Gatwick
G-EZEO - Gatwick
G-EZEP - Gatwick
G-EZES - Gatwick (On Order - To be displayed at Farnborough)

100 more A319's on order.

-Stephen
 
trevd
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RE: EasyJet Airbus/Boeing Fleet?

Fri Jul 09, 2004 9:10 am

MD-11 - Not the actual contact, only summary of terms.

Ray Webster himself admitted they were given a stunning price by AI to buy the deal. That's why many financiers are not comfortable with the AI product because you'll never know what stupid thing Airbus is going to do in some other deal to destroy the residual value of your asset. Explains why their is an oversupply of used A320's on the market and their residuals are so cheap - I know of several late '90's build year A320's on the market that you can pickup for less than $10M - all of which have had the equity wiped out and at those prices the debt is going to take a hit as well.

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