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Never Flown An Airbus Long-hual.

Sun Jul 11, 2004 9:33 am

You know, much to my satisfaction, I just realized that NONE of my long-haul flights have been Airbus:

JFK-TLV Tower Air 747
TLV-JFK Tower Air 747
JFK-LHR Virgin Atlantic 742
LHR-JFK Virgin Atlantic 742
JFK-LHR American 777
LHR-JFK American 777
MIA-MAD American 763
MAD-MIA American 763
EWR-TLV El Al 777
TLV-JFK El Al 744
MIA-EZE American 777
EZE-MIA American 763
JFK-LHR American 777 (Planned)
LHR-RDU American 777 (Planned)

In facy, the longest I've ever flewn in an Airbus was about 2 hours (JFK-MIA-JFK AA A300). I guess, because of my experiances, I can't see Airbus as a long haul aircraft. I know they fly long haul each day for many carriers, but it just seems odd to me. Does Airbus differ from Boeing from a pax perspective?
 
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Never Flown An Airbus Long-hual.

Sun Jul 11, 2004 9:36 am


No long haul here either... actually, only one Airbus flight to date; Northwest A320 back in '97 I think.
 
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Never Flown An Airbus Long-hual.

Sun Jul 11, 2004 9:43 am

I am an unabashed Boeing fan, but you will find that, if operated by a qualty carrier, an Airbus product will be entirely satisfactory.

By way of illustration, I had the pleasure of flying on TN (Air Tahiti Nui) LAX-PPT, last year, and I found the A340 to be a fine ride.

All except for that takeoff, which felt as if we were going to taxi to French Paolynesia. I get better climb performance from a C172.

But back to the point. A have not sold as many widebody aircraft as they have by building crap; they are sound, well-engineered products.
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Never Flown An Airbus Long-hual.

Sun Jul 11, 2004 9:45 am

YVR-AB) (FRA / FRF / EDDF), Germany">FRA Lufthansa A340-300
YUL-LHR Air Canada A330-200
YYC-HNL Canada 3000 A330-200
HNL-YYC Canada 3000 A330-200
LHR-YUL Air Canada A340-200

Air Canada does almost all trans-pacific flight with airbus and quite a few trans-atlantic flights as well.
 
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Sun Jul 11, 2004 10:14 am

I too have never had any long hauls on an airbus a/c. And even though I hate airbus I do not select this at all. I will take what ever a/c is available. The longest airbus ride I've been on was SFO-YYZ on an AC 320. I was due to fly LH LAX-MUC but switched to LAX-FRa. I am interested in a long haul on maybe a 346 or SQ 345 some day soon. Does SQ operate a 345 to HKG from LAX, I think SFO is still a 777. I think it would be worth the extra leg (SFO-LAX) to try out this new bird(s).

SFO-HKG UA744 X 4
SFO-FRa UA772 X 2
LAX-FRa LH744 X 1
SFO-PEK Air China 744 X 1
LAX-SYD UA744 X 1
LHR-SFO BA744 X 2
SFO-CDG AF744 X 1

And when going to the EU with a pit stop in either ORD or IAD there I normally go from a UA 763/772 to a UA 772/763 for the hop over the pond.

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RE: Never Flown An Airbus Long-hual.

Sun Jul 11, 2004 10:54 am

I've been across the pond several times, on many types. The best was Virgin A340. Quietest, most room (2-4-2). If I had a choice, that would be it.
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RE: Never Flown An Airbus Long-hual.

Sun Jul 11, 2004 11:05 am

Hi Flyboy

I've flown Boeing and Airbus for flights of more than 9 hours...

My honest opinion? You can hardly tell the difference. For instance, the 340 markets itself as the quieter airliner... what do you want me to say; after 20 minutes I just ignore the plain sound of all aircrafts I've been (the ear just get used to it), so that's not even a great difference.

For some reason I still prefer Boeing... but there is not reason for not liking Airbus, just a matter of taste. I've feel very comfortable in both. Do you know what do I actually like of the 340? the rear galley, so wide!
But that's all; what matters or makes a difference for my is:
- IFE
- Wide/Narrow body.

Boeing or Airbus, short or long hault; the difference is made by the airline. Both are fine!
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RE: Never Flown An Airbus Long-hual.

Sun Jul 11, 2004 11:14 am


I've flown LH A340 AB) (FRA / FRF / EDDF), Germany">FRA-ATl in '96, CSA (Czech) A310 NYC-PRG roundtrip in 2000 and '02 (one segment in Business class), and US A330 CLT-LGW in '01 (was in London when 9/11 happened). Found all, including the aging A310's to be entirely comfortable. I can't tell the difference, but my partner swears that Airbus coach seats feel roomier than Boeings... Matter of opinion, I guess.
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Sun Jul 11, 2004 11:16 am

I once flew from LHR to LAX on a VS A343. It was NOT a good experience. The seats were not comfortable (the one in front of me was broken), it looked old, and was not all that quiet like a lot of Airbus fans claimed. That that I had flown on an EK 773 right before that. However I know that it was just one instance, so I'm still open to flying on an Airbus. I do like the A320 even though I think that the 737 has better looks.
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RE: Never Flown An Airbus Long-hual.

Sun Jul 11, 2004 11:25 am

The seats were not comfortable (the one in front of me was broken), it looked old, and was not all that quiet like a lot of Airbus fans claimed.

Wouldn't that be the responsibility of the airline to maintain their interiors rather than a failing of the manufacturer?
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Sun Jul 11, 2004 11:41 am

Two LAX-SIN and 1 EWR-SIN R/T qualify me for 6 ultra long haul Airbus flights.

God knows how many LH A340 to and from ORD i have been on.........after ultra longhaul i really do not classify US-Europe flights as longhaul anymore.................
 
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RE: Never Flown An Airbus Long-hual.

Sun Jul 11, 2004 11:58 am

UA777222,

On what basis to you 'hate' Airbus aircraft? - have they caused you some kind of trauma?

Do you have good reason or it it just a daft statement?

I prefer Airbus narrowbodys due to the width of the fuselage,they feel so much more roomy than Boeing narrowbodys.Regarding widebodys,I prefer the A330/340 & 767 over the 777 & 747 due to the seating layout.

I may prefer Airbus,but I don't hate Boeings,they make fine aircraft,always have and will continue to do so.

Rgds

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RE: Never Flown An Airbus Long-hual.

Sun Jul 11, 2004 2:17 pm

I'm sorry. Maybe Hate was the wrong word. Let's try don't trust? I know then I get the whole well how many airbus a/c do you see falling out of the skis and what not. IN MY PERSONAL OPPINION I find that airbus a/c are less reliable. In 20 years when there are 777's and NG737's stacked up in the desert and A380's roaming the skis then I will happily change my opinion but as of now I find that Boeing a/c are better built, made for the customer, and are an overall better quality. But we can debate this later. That's my reasoning for my comment and I'm sorry if I have offended anyone who has read it.

Ba319-131, Thank you for pointing that out for me. I will be sure to correct myself in future posts. Feel free to email me and we can point out our own pro's and con's of airbus vs. Boeing in a clam and, unheated(?) manner, I myself am getting a bit tired of the battles that ensue in the forums (sorry if I started it with that comment).

Thanks again Ba319-131!

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RE: Never Flown An Airbus Long-hual.

Sun Jul 11, 2004 2:33 pm

My 2 longest Airbus trips were on a trip down to SXM. First was BOS-SJU and the return was MIA-BOS. Both flights were onboard an AA A300.
 
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Sun Jul 11, 2004 2:50 pm

My longest Airbus flights has to be Vancouver to Seoul on SQ's A343 and UL's A330 ride from LHR to CMB. They are very quiet indeed especially the 332.
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RE: Never Flown An Airbus Long-hual.

Sun Jul 11, 2004 3:33 pm

airbus cabins are slightly wider than boeing. makes for a little bit more room, at least in theory.
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RE: Never Flown An Airbus Long-hual.

Sun Jul 11, 2004 3:36 pm

I mean, I flew the A321 on Aer Lingus (LHR-DUB-LHR), the A300 with AA JFK-MIA-JFK), and the A320 with Iberia (BCN-MAD) and will fly the A319/320 on BA soon (LHR-AMS, DUS-LHR). Also, I am on a BMI A320 from LHR-INV. But I allways prefered the 737s. They may not be roomier in reality (narrower) but they feel wider.
 
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RE: Never Flown An Airbus Long-hual.

Sun Jul 11, 2004 5:13 pm

After 4 flights on A330s, 8 on A340s, 28 on B747s, 9 on B767s, 1 on a B777 and 2 on MD11s of 8 hours or more, the A340 (and I've only flown on the -300) is my favorite long haul aircraft.

It's quieter than the others and whether or not the plane needs a bit to get airborne (yes, it does need quite a while for that) to me is just about the most irrelevant point of flying. So it accellerates slower than other planes - so what? It gets off the ground just as the other planes, and as long as that works, I wouldn't mind if it were half as fast while doing that...

Anyhow, concerning comfort - the only thing that can really be attributed to Airbus, Boeing or - RIP - McDD, is the noise, the general atmosphere (i.e. lighting, spaciousness) and the practicabillity (overhead bins easy to open/close, ...).

Whether the seat is comfortable, the pitch is enough, the IFE is good, the meal is tasty or the inflight magazine is interesting only has to do with the airline - and is by no means a way to qualify or disqualify a manufacturer... otherwise, you'd never see me flying B767s again, after a not-so-fun flight on Air Zimbabwe with the seat in front of me broken, causing the passengers head to be about 15cm in front of my fact for takeoff/landing (because his seatback wouldn't stay in the up-position).

So, to sum things up, much to my satisfaction I have had the opportunity to fly on longhaul routes on longhaul planes by three manufacturers, and I've been able to form my opinion from that - and not the, to my eyes and ears, always quite strange "I don't like that manufacturer - I've never flown on one of their planes, but I know they're not as good as the ones of the manufacturer I like" line... that always sounds to me as if the person saying it is actually afraid that he/she might actually prefer the "other guy's" products, once they've actually tried them.

Flyboy36y, try to fly an A330/A340 next time you take a long haul - then you'll be able to judge it for yourself... whatever you read here is simply personal opinions - and your personal perception might, in the end, be a completely different one to what you've expected it would be...

Regards,
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RE: Never Flown An Airbus Long-hual.

Sun Jul 11, 2004 5:43 pm

For instance, the 340 markets itself as the quieter airliner... what do you want me to say; after 20 minutes I just ignore the plain sound of all aircrafts I've been (the ear just get used to it), so that's not even a great difference.

Good point, Arcano. Its not like the sound of a modern turbofan is that annoying anyway. IMO, its a fairly relaxing white noise that blends into the background once you reach cruise. If we were still using turbojets, well that would be a different story! As for the original topic, the longest Airbus flight I've been on was SEA-PHL on US. I think it was an A321. However, I'm looking forward to PDX-NRT on NW's new 332 early next year.
 
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RE: Never Flown An Airbus Long-hual.

Sun Jul 11, 2004 7:23 pm

Wow, you never flown Airbus Long haul, and I never flew Airbus Short haul.
 
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Sun Jul 11, 2004 7:51 pm

The best long-haul I've ever been on was on SK 330 from ORD to ARN (mainly because I had 4 seats for myself) The fan I use in my room during hot summer nights makes more noise than those engines!

The 747 I was on from AMS to Minneapolis was a lot louder and didn't come close to the level of comfort that the 330 did.

If the climb path doesn't interfere with anything solid, I'm fine (no pro-Airbus thing, the 744 doesn't exactly have an astonishing ROC at MTOW either) Anyone in here in a hurry to get to cruise alt. or what?

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Sun Jul 11, 2004 8:23 pm

I think Frank hit the nail right on the head.
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RE: Never Flown An Airbus Long-hual.

Sun Jul 11, 2004 8:50 pm

Seems to me this is turning into another silly Airbus vs. Boeing thread... Insane Nuts

I have no particular preference over aircraft as long as it doesn't say "cdelaho b CCCP". I think it's THE AIRLINE and THE CREW what makes the difference - as someone pointed out in a thread about possible 7E7 redesign: ordinary customer does not care about the a/c itself, it's the legroom, the service, safety record, etc.
I've flown with LH's 744 AB) (FRA / FRF / EDDF), Germany">FRA - LAX - AB) (FRA / FRF / EDDF), Germany">FRA - one crew excellent, nice, friendly despite all toilets in Y had to be flushed with apple juice. On our way back, same aircraft but 100% difference in attitude of the crew Angry. ZRH-DEL-ZRH onboard Swiss' A330 was very enjoyable experience, whereas BA's LHR-PHL 777 flight was close to the definition of a nightmare. AA's A300 JFK-LHR or DL's 777 ATL-LGW? Can't tell the difference since both sucked!
I personally find A319/320 much quieter than 737s but does it significantly influence my airline preference...NO!
 
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RE: Never Flown An Airbus Long-hual.

Mon Jul 12, 2004 12:12 am

I think the A340 2-4-2 seating beats the 777 2-5-2/3-3-3, but it's no huge deal. Just feels more roomy and less cramped. Still, the 777 is just fine too. I don't really mind either. The only one that feels like a flying cattlecar is the 747, especially if you're in the middle somewhere.

As for the noise, well, noise cancellation headphones take care of that in any case!

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RE: Never Flown An Airbus Long-hual.

Mon Jul 12, 2004 1:07 am

The only one that feels like a flying cattlecar is the 747, especially if you're in the middle somewhere.
An A310-204 from HLF with 3-3-3 seating is even worse.
Apart from two 4 hour trips I have never flown longer legs on Airbus.
I think 2-3-2 and 2-4-2 seating beats 3-3-3 or 2-5-2.

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RE: Never Flown An Airbus Long-hual.

Mon Jul 12, 2004 1:56 am

Good...don't ever fly on one.

I flew a SA A342 JNB-PER last month...man the worst experience ever. The seats were narrow, and very, very uncomfortable. Also, we had turbulence for something like half the flight (that's almost 6 hours, I think), and to top it all off there was no on-board entertainment (apparently because they were having some 'problems' with the electronics on board the SA airbus fleet). Not even the music channels were working, so we had to just sit there for 12 hours staring at each other.

Having flown on the A342, A346 and the B744, I will take the beautiful Boeing anyday.

 
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RE: Never Flown An Airbus Long-hual.

Mon Jul 12, 2004 1:59 am

I have flown long haul on A332, A333, A346, MD11, B747, B767 and B777 and I enjoyed them all. However I have a preference for the Airbuses and the B767 simply for the seating arrangement in Economy (2-4-2 and 2-3-2 respectively). Climb performance is totally irrelevant to me as a passenger and I am actually looking forward to my first long haul on an A343. Loved the A346 and it seemed to me very quiet, the climb and descend were very, very smooth.
 
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RE: Never Flown An Airbus Long-hual.

Mon Jul 12, 2004 2:46 am

Tubbyboeing, where do I begin...

Seats narrow and uncomfortable? Yes, Airbus does that on purpose, to have everyone wanting to fly Boeings...  Insane

The airlines order the seats - and, for that much, the IFE as well: since the A342s that SAA operates came from LH, what you got was typical LH interior... and it would have been the same if you had been on a LH B744 - and having flown LH's A340s and B744s within a few days of each other once or twice, I can tell you that it's no pleasure to be in Economy of either one.

As for the IFE not working - last time I flew JNB-Frankfurt on one of SAA's B747-300s, I had the same problem... so that's also nothing specific to Airbus.

And turbulence? Please - tell me you were joking when you actually put that on your list as to why you don't like Airbusses!!! Because turbulence is known to affect planes of other types as well, you know...  Insane

If you don't like Airbus - fine with me... but please don't use absurd arguements like those to prove your point - simply stick with "I prefer Boeing"...

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Mon Jul 12, 2004 2:53 am

Wouldn't that be the responsibility of the airline to maintain their interiors rather than a failing of the manufacturer?

Yes I realize that. But you have to admit that the first impression can often be the lasting impression. However if you read through the end of my post, you will see that I said I am very open to flying another Airbus.
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RE: Never Flown An Airbus Long-haul.

Mon Jul 12, 2004 3:10 am

I have been on an A330 with US Airways from AB) (FRA / FRF / EDDF), Germany">FRA to PHL . Plane was great, IFE was great and we had no great turbulence on that flight. I think the comfort on the A330 is comparable to that of the B777 or B767, overall there is no big difference. The only problem you may experience with a B767 is the outdated IFE (at least for US Airways).

I have always been on an A310 from OTP to LHR, that's about 10 years ago, with Tarom. That's not longhaul, but the plane is a widebody. Seat pitch felt like on a shorthaul, but hat was the company's choice. Anyway, I don't think you have many opportunities to fly on a A310 nowadays.
 
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Mon Jul 12, 2004 4:17 am

Yeah I've done it a few times. I've also done 747-400 longhaul, and I can say that they are pretty much the same.

I've done:

AB) (FRA / FRF / EDDF), Germany">FRA-ORD Lufthansa A340-300
AB) (FRA / FRF / EDDF), Germany">FRA-ORD (again) Lufthansa A340-300
ORD-MUC Lufthansa A340-300
 
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RE: Never Flown An Airbus Long-hual.

Mon Jul 12, 2004 4:27 am


I'm open to flying any type of plane and like my first post, I only have one Airbus flight logged. http://members.aol.com/AIR757200/air757.htm, I would like to venture on other Airbus aircraft- I don't non-rev on any AB3 routes on AA, yet. But, I'm sure it will come a time where I will buy a ticket and prob. will choose Airbus to mix up my logbook, but it doesn't have to do with any preference- an airplane is an airplane LIKE IT OR NOT.  Smile
 
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RE: Never Flown An Airbus Long-hual.

Mon Jul 12, 2004 4:27 am

The only one that feels like a flying cattlecar is the 747, especially if you're in the middle somewhere.

I absolutely agree....I've never been on a 777, but I would hate to be in that seat smack in the middle of a 2-5-2 configuration....yikes!!

Give me an A330/340 any day....preferaby a LX or SK one....
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Mon Jul 12, 2004 4:38 am

my best fly ever was a YUL-CDG on an AC's 343
i had the sensation of being on a very "chic" cabin, as it was roomy, not cramped, silent and well illuminated.

about powerful climbings, i did a LIM-AMS on a KL's MD11 which was at 70% full. takeoff felt amazingly powerful, my head hit the headrest (was really funny...)
 
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RE: Never Flown An Airbus Long-hual.

Mon Jul 12, 2004 4:55 am

FWIW I flew EK, first an A330 then a B777 straight afterwards, each flight about 6 hours. Once on board, with the same decor, there is barely any major difference. Ok, so the toilets are different, the overhead panels are different, but other than that they were very similar!

I've flown other Airbuses too, and don't really care which aircraft I'm on as long as it gets me there!

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RE: Never Flown An Airbus Long-hual.

Mon Jul 12, 2004 5:27 am

I've gotta' say that I really can't stand the 747 in economy. The 3-4-3 seating is really uncomfortable, and the legroom typically isn't fantastic.

I've got
SFO-LHR UA777; comfortable enough
LHR-SFO UA747; ughhh...
PDX-AB) (FRA / FRF / EDDF), Germany">FRA LH343; really liked the two seats on the side. Nice a/c, quiet too.
MUC-SFO LH343; same story
CDG-PHL-CDG on US333, similar story to the LH343
 
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Mon Jul 12, 2004 5:35 am



Most of my long haul flights have been on the A343 or the B744, particularly F-GLZK and G-VFAB. A343 is great for long haul, and so is the B744 (if you're seated in the right row). I am dying to try out a 777 on long haul, though.

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RE: Never Flown An Airbus Long-hual.

Mon Jul 12, 2004 6:24 am

There is far more difference between airlines than airplane manufacturers.

If you are flying in the front cabins, no difference whatsoever, except for the 747. The upper deck is very special and unique.

If you are in the back, no difference again, except the A340-200/300 vs the 777. There is very noticeably more noise and vibration on the 777, both on T/O and cruise.

based on Long-haul experience in
747 (US-Australia, US-NRT, US-Eur)
767 (US transcon, US-Europe)
757 (US transcon)
777 (US-Brasil, US-NRT)

A330 (US-Eur)
A340 (US-Eur, Eur-India)
 
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RE: Never Flown An Airbus Long-hual.

Mon Jul 12, 2004 8:58 am

I've had to pleasure to fly the A330 across Atlantic longhaul on both
US Airways and Northwest. Both trips were extremely comfortable, even for a 6'3" person like myself in Y class. The PVTs were excellent and the inflight service was quite good.
I've also had the misfortune to fly an A330 from Air Canada across the pond (after missing my direct flight from LHR-YOW). I quite simply cannot understand why Air Canada did not opt for PVTs on their jets. After flying on the same aircraft on competing airlines it is a slap in the face to see the clothes covering over where the PVT should be. Thankfully Air Canada has seen the light and the new 345 will have this feature.
All in all I found the long-haul experiece to be quite comfortable.
 
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RE: Never Flown An Airbus Long-hual.

Mon Jul 12, 2004 9:38 am

There is far more difference between airlines than airplane manufacturers.

Rmenon has hit the nail on the head. VS has cool furnishings on most planes (gotta love the SciFi crapper on the A346!) while Ryanair is like a flying McDonalds.


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RE: Never Flown An Airbus Long-hual.

Mon Jul 12, 2004 11:08 am

If you haven´t had an airbus lon-haul flight the I must assume that you don´t fly much. Sorry

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RE: Never Flown An Airbus Long-hual.

Mon Jul 12, 2004 1:28 pm

I may actually be on a LX A340 later this month (ZRH-TLV), but at 4.5 hours its not really long haul...
 
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RE: Never Flown An Airbus Long-hual.

Mon Jul 12, 2004 2:24 pm

Not much difference indeed.

The A340 will take 20 mins more than a B744 on LHR-HKG, which is a 12 hour flight. You'll find the Airbus will be quieter than the 744s. That's about it...
 
archie
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RE: Never Flown An Airbus Long-hual.

Tue Jul 13, 2004 2:20 am

I flew on Iberia`s A340-300 from ORD to MAD.
The airplane was fine, although take off as some have mentioned a little slow. I felt the seats quite unconfortable. But that depends on the airline!!

Overall it was ok.

Regards,

Archie
 
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RE: Never Flown An Airbus Long-hual.

Tue Jul 13, 2004 2:43 am

Hi there!

I have flown an Airbus 3 times long haul on board a A343 and a A332. But also many short haul flights have been on Buses  Smile

I found the A343 to be ok. The cabin was quite noisy, and the VS economy config didn't help neither  Sad But all in all it's quite a nice plane. Want to try the A345/6 as well  Smile

VS A343 LAX-LHR Report

The A332 was absolutely fantastic. Now I flew this with TCX on a charter route to CCC. It was comfy, quiet and really impressive I feel. Only problem was the 3-4-3 config onboard this. Only for the outbound flight was this a problem though as the inbound was empty  Big thumbs up

TCX A332 MAN-CCC Report

TCX A332 CCC-MAN Report

Best Regards,

Justin  Smile
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Leskova
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RE: Never Flown An Airbus Long-hual.

Tue Jul 13, 2004 3:00 am

Justin, are you sure about the 3-4-3 config on an A330?  Wow!

I've had the misfortune to be on an occasional Airbus in 3-3-3 config, and I always thought that that came quite close to the textbook-definition of torture... but 3-4-3???
Smile - it confuses people!
 
Iberia340600
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RE: Never Flown An Airbus Long-hual.

Tue Jul 13, 2004 4:16 am

These A vs. B wars are really quite ridiculous and truthfully...tiring. It is so annoying to come here and everyday see something in regards to...Boeing this and Airbus that...and I hate Boeing...and I hate Airbus. I have read through this whole post and really...the only ones I found to have a valid argument is SIMPLICITY and AIR757200.

The A340 will add about 20 minutes of flight time to your trip but it is quieter than a B744. Your choice...want to get there faster or quieter?

I have flown on many Boeings and Airbus, and yes McDonald Douglas's too(Boeing 727,737,747,757,767 Douglas DC9, DC10, MD83,87,88, and Airbus A300,310,320,321,340,346) and you know what...I enjoyed my experience on each and every one of them. Each have its own pro's and con's.

I love the way the 757 takes off...but I dont like the way you feel the 737 fishtail so much. The way the A340 takes off can be a little tense sometimes but..it flies doesnt it? I love the way the A346 is so quiet. My 1st trip on the 346 was a couple of months ago and I was truly amazed. The A320 is a workhorse as well. And how can one not love the B747...it is such a majestic aircraft.

Can we just please put these damn A vs. B wars behind us?? I mean really....and if not...at least discuss the pro's and con's like adults? No...I hate Airbus cause my flight had turbulence...or Boeing cause this one didnt have IFE....those are NOT valid reasons. Both are quality manufacturers of aircraft and should be regarded as such.

Thank you all for listening!  Smile/happy/getting dizzy
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Jkw777
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RE: Never Flown An Airbus Long-hual.

Tue Jul 13, 2004 5:30 am

Justin, are you sure about the 3-4-3 config on an A330?

I'm sorry that was a typo Embarrassment I meant 3-3-3!


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RE: Never Flown An Airbus Long-hual.

Tue Jul 13, 2004 10:41 pm

My long-haul international flights:
NW 744 DTW-AMS
NW D10 LGW-DTW
NW D10 DTW-FCO
NW D10 FCO-DTW
US 330 PHL-CDG
US 330 CDG-PHL
US 330 PHL-LGW
US 330 LGW-PHL
AF 777 JFK-CDG (planned)
DL 763 AMS-CVG (planned)

I actually like the A330 cabin more than anything else I've taken so far for trans-Atlantic flights. It seems like more of a spacious cabin than any of the others & I'd recommend it. The 747 I was on was 3-4-3 & I really didn't like that configuration...would much rather have two seats on the outside. I'm trying the 763ER & 777 in a couple weeks...maybe they'll dethrone the 330 from the top of my list.

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RE: Never Flown An Airbus Long-haul.

Tue Jul 13, 2004 10:55 pm

I've done the 340-500 DXB - SYD, bloody brilliant and with those Trent 500s it looks good too. And tho this is not Boeing vs Airbus (although it always is) tell me which Boeing can do the 18+ hour routes that Singapore is doing?

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