greatansett
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Guess Who I Was Talking To Today?

Mon Jul 12, 2004 10:48 am

You would never believe this but today in Sydney I was talking to a man called Anwa Khan. He was on a UA flight to Sydney in 1988(I think) and he was sitting next to some guy called Jeri. The aircraft was a 747-200, the cargo door was not secured and it tore off in mid flight. Jeri was sucked out of the whole in the aircraft. This was the most interesting conversation I have ever had with anyone. He sued UA and received free flights. Now he flies almost weekly. Anyone ever met anyone like him before?
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ATL2CDG
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RE: Guess Who I Was Talking To Today?

Mon Jul 12, 2004 11:06 am

GREATANSETT:

I can find no record of such an incident in the NTSB database and have no recollection of such an event occurring. I do recall a fatal event involving a United 747 series airliner departing from Hawai'i sometime in the past.

I think you were had by someone trying to get some attention.
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deltaffindfw
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RE: Guess Who I Was Talking To Today?

Mon Jul 12, 2004 11:09 am

ATL2CDG -

Try doing a search anywhere on the internet for United flight 811. It is VERY real.

http://www.airdisaster.com/eyewitness/ua811.shtml

[Edited 2004-07-12 04:11:31]
 
ATL2CDG
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RE: Guess Who I Was Talking To Today?

Mon Jul 12, 2004 11:18 am

All:

My apologies. I misread the original poster's synopsis; I thought the flight originated in SYD, not was en route to SYD. As such, I'm recalling the same flight, UAL811 HNL-SYD; I was simply mistaken as to the flight inferred by the original poster.

Again, my apologies.
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Bobs89irocz
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RE: Guess Who I Was Talking To Today?

Mon Jul 12, 2004 11:19 am

*Anyone ever met anyone like him before?*

uh i guess you could say that.

Ive met Al Hanes. I didnt get to really talk to him just shake his hand at a convention he spoke at.

Met a guy last year that his parents where on board AA 191 (DC-10 out of ORD) VERY interesting conversations....about how AA/McDD tryed to screw him over....

Girl i went to school with and still very good friends with to this day her dad was on board Delta ??? (727 crashed on TO out of DFW) He got millions and free air travel but doesnt use them, he flys AA.

 
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RE: Guess Who I Was Talking To Today?

Mon Jul 12, 2004 11:21 am

If he got sucked out, how did he get to fly again? He was lying to you.
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LambertSTL777
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RE: Guess Who I Was Talking To Today?

Mon Jul 12, 2004 11:22 am

Greatansett,

The accident you're talking about was UA flt. 811 (Honolulu - Auckland & Sydney) Because of Malfunctions that Boeing refused to acknowledge, the cargo door burst open over the Pacific Ocean, ripping a whole from the cargo hold to the top of the 1st floor of the cabin. 9 people died. The few that were sucked out of the plane Didn't survive.. It was a 747-122 that made an emergency landing in Honolulu shortly after the incident. Hopefully you don't mean "Jeri" sued UA, because Jeri wouldn't have survived, if he actually was sucked out of the plane.. It's unacceptable how it takes the loss of lives for the NTSB, and companies involved to realise problems staring them in the face, and have them fixed.. The problem with the 747 had been reported many times before this incident, yet Boeing covered it up. This plane, N4713U, was put back into service after being repaired....
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JAL777
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RE: Guess Who I Was Talking To Today?

Mon Jul 12, 2004 11:23 am

LOL! Anyone else find the fact that for being scared shitless on a United flight, he gets free lifetime flights on United???  Big thumbs up  Big thumbs up  Big thumbs up
 
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RE: Guess Who I Was Talking To Today?

Mon Jul 12, 2004 11:25 am

 Laugh out loud

I agree JAL777.. Kind of ironic, isn't it?.. Big grin
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RE: Guess Who I Was Talking To Today?

Mon Jul 12, 2004 11:30 am

WOW! Very very very very chilling. I think it had to be an experience to get the chance to speak to a survivor of the incident who not only was aboard the a/c but was next to the hole. I'd like to take a section out of this real quick;

For the first few minutes the cabin crew just "hung on" trying to take in what had happened. It was obvious that some passengers had been sucked out as part of the floor was missing. Because of the noise it was impossible to communicate with anyone at that stage. Because of the fact that it was night there was no reference points and from my perspective it was impossible to gauge how high we were. The crew were pretty quick in pulling themselves together and started to render assistance to the passengers closest to the hole, some of whom appeared to be in danger of being sucked out

So next time you think they're there to serve you drinks and give you pasta or chicken think again. I tip my hat to this crew even though souls were lost.

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Mon Jul 12, 2004 11:30 am


I had a co-worker who was on AA 1420 (LIT crash). He talked about the people sitting ahead of him who were killed and wading through a swampy area smelling and being covered with fuel. He has been suffering from PTSD since the crash and left our company. Sometimes he would wake up in the middle of the night thinking that he smelled jet fuel and had to run. Really sad!
 
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RE: Guess Who I Was Talking To Today?

Mon Jul 12, 2004 11:32 am

The show about this accident is very cool, those parents from NZ? who drove all over the US and researched the accident and figured it out before the NTSB.

Very cool program, and a miricle that the crew was able to land the plane.

ATL2CDG- How do you not know about this incident??
 
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RE: Guess Who I Was Talking To Today?

Mon Jul 12, 2004 11:34 am

The nine people who did die were all sucked out of the airplane.. correct? At least one person went directly into the number 3 engine..
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ATL2CDG
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RE: Guess Who I Was Talking To Today?

Mon Jul 12, 2004 11:36 am

Ualonghaul:

Read my second reply. I was well aware of the incident; I thought the original poster was recalling another incident of which I was not aware. I misunderstood, and after re-reading the original post, it is obvious that the flight which I recalled and the one in question were one in the same.
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RE: Guess Who I Was Talking To Today?

Mon Jul 12, 2004 11:42 am

Hindsight is 20/20, misunderstandings are your own fault.
 
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RE: Guess Who I Was Talking To Today?

Mon Jul 12, 2004 11:45 am

Ualonghaul:

Hindsight is 20/20, misunderstandings are your own fault.

I don't appreciate being talked to like a third-grader. I admitted that it was a misunderstanding on my part and apologized. Please don't chide me over something that has little consequence in the greater scheme of things and for which there is no need.
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RE: Guess Who I Was Talking To Today?

Mon Jul 12, 2004 11:47 am

Hmmmm....
So how I find all of this VERY difficult to believe.

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RE: Guess Who I Was Talking To Today?

Mon Jul 12, 2004 11:53 am

ATL2CDG- Easy mistake man, dont worry about it....


Tasha- Its a SMALL world....anything is possible.
 
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RE: Guess Who I Was Talking To Today?

Mon Jul 12, 2004 12:03 pm

Blackbird1331 said:
"If he got sucked out, how did he get to fly again? He was lying to you."

Read what the original poster said. "I was talking to a man called Anwa Khan.....he was sitting next to some guy called Jeri...Jeri was sucked out"

So the guy he talked to obviously didn't get sucked out  Smile

Tasha said:
"So how I find all of this VERY difficult to believe."

Why? There is no doubt it happened.

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RE: Guess Who I Was Talking To Today?

Mon Jul 12, 2004 12:21 pm

Dated a girl who's aunt was killed in that AA 757 that crashed into the mountain in (Colombia?).
 
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RE: Guess Who I Was Talking To Today?

Mon Jul 12, 2004 12:54 pm

Yeah, you remember about AA 757 was crash into the mountain in COlumbia. This is not pay attention what he was doing with the landing in BOG.
 
greatansett
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RE: Guess Who I Was Talking To Today?

Mon Jul 12, 2004 1:01 pm

Sorry I should of made myself clearer in my original post. Jeri, the guy sitting next to the man I was speaking to was sucked out of the aircraft. Anwa ended up suing UA but he received no $ as he just wanted the aircraft serviced better ie fix the problem that caused the accident in the first place.

[Edited 2004-07-12 06:02:53]
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RE: Guess Who I Was Talking To Today?

Mon Jul 12, 2004 1:11 pm

GREATANSETT, very interesting and chilling at the same time. I could not imagine being in the seat next to the piece of floor missing, with a several hundred mile per hour windstream and especially at night. Sobering situation, very sad indeed.

And ATL2CDG I'm on your side. When I first read your post, I was like "how does he not know about that accident?", but you followed up nicely and don't deserve the remarks some have gave you.
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RE: Guess Who I Was Talking To Today?

Mon Jul 12, 2004 1:37 pm

ATL2CDG, I REALLY think someone owes you an apology. Very ugly reply Ualonghaul...
 
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RE: Guess Who I Was Talking To Today?

Mon Jul 12, 2004 2:15 pm

If I were Anwa, I'd ask to have my UA flights turned into AA flights. I'd feel safer!
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greatansett
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RE: Guess Who I Was Talking To Today?

Mon Jul 12, 2004 2:18 pm

Anwa can change to any Star airline (I don't know why), but in 1988 he only had the choice of UA.
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RE: Guess Who I Was Talking To Today?

Mon Jul 12, 2004 2:25 pm

Anwa probably didn't have a choice back in 1988, because the Star Alliance wasn't around back then.
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RE: Guess Who I Was Talking To Today?

Mon Jul 12, 2004 4:05 pm

A minor correction:
.. because of Malfunctions that Boeing refused to acknowledge..

IIRC, Boeing were aware of this particular problem, and had issued a warning/advisory to the airlines, urging them to replace the locks on the cargo doors. However, the airlines were able to persuade the FAA to give them a couple of years to do it, instead of the few months they would normally have had to do it.

Unless, of course, you were referring to the fact that Boeing initially refused to accept the locks failure as the cause of the accident, in which you are absolutely correct.
 
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RE: Guess Who I Was Talking To Today?

Mon Jul 12, 2004 9:02 pm

I met Captain Bob Pearson on a flight from YVR to YUL via YYZ once. A very fine gentleman.

For those wondering "who the heck is that", he was the captain on the famous Gimli Glider incident where an Air Canada Boeing 767 rant out of fuel and did a deadstick landing into Gimli, Manitoba.

I've also flown numerous times on C-GAUN (fin 604), the aircraft involved in that incident.

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RE: Guess Who I Was Talking To Today?

Mon Jul 12, 2004 9:50 pm

SMCMAC32MSN,
You may feel safer on AA but you really wouldn't be. According to the Aviation Safety Network AA has had 77 occurrences in their long history while UAL has only had 73, and UAL has been around longer I believe. Not all occurrence's have resulted in fatalities, but they are accidents. So keep feeling safe on AA, they are a good airline. Smile
 
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RE: Guess Who I Was Talking To Today?

Mon Jul 12, 2004 10:15 pm

My old boss was on his way to the airport to catch the Aviaco flight to Santander (SDR)when he got called back to a meeting. Some of his colleagues died in that crash and now he drives most of the time. In fact the only time I saw him fly was on a trip to the US (had no other option)
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RE: Guess Who I Was Talking To Today?

Mon Jul 12, 2004 10:25 pm

Yes, talk to the victims.
And then let me know how unneccesary lawyers are.....
 
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Tue Jul 13, 2004 3:37 am

On JUN 24, 1982 a BA B742, G-BDXH enroute to PER from KUL commanded by Capt. Eric Moody, ingested volcanic ash from an erupting Mount Galunggungg. All 4 engines went dead for about 15 minutes before the crew managed to relight 3 of them at a lower altitude. The aircraft flew without power for close to a quarter of an hour.

They carried out an emergency landing at JKT made even tougher by the almost nil visibility through their sandblasted windscreens. Fortunately no one was injured nor was the aircraft irreparably damaged. The story has gone on to become a legend in exemplary airmanship.

I had the good fortune of meeting Captain Moody during a lecture on Air Accident Management in 2002 and was greatly impressed by his very valuable inputs. During a private discussion thereafter, I asked him about passenger reactions when the emergency was declared and in response was told an extremely amusing incident.

Apparently when the aircraft dived to about 10000 ft, the oxygen masks came down and passengers instinctively went for them. Capt. Moody was taking a round of the cabin to check if everyone had donned their masks. And then he saw, up ahead in the Business Class Cabin, a passenger (whose adjacent seat was vacant), holding two oxygen masks clamped tightly to his ears!!! Nuts

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Tue Jul 13, 2004 5:53 am

I watched an interesting doc on sattelite here in the U.K. (they did a series and this was one of them). it followed the parents of a New Zealand man who died in it, and they found out that there was a cover up of the incident, their travels to the u.s. and the theft of NTSB reports had quite an influence on boeings decision to send out a repair program to all airlines with the aircraft. there was a problem with the c locks used to lock the doors, they weren't strong enough, and also some fault with the wiring used to initiate the opening of the door. i have never met anyone who has been in an accident, and i think i wouldnt like to either. these hunks of metal, no matter how scientific you want to get, never cease to amaze me as to how they stay off the ground, and am a very nervous flyer. my worst was my last flight on a CY flight to LCA in may (good flight and airline but i am a terrible passenger, i nearly did myself in with hyperventilation and almost broke my partners hand). however i think to witness such a horrific event would obviously have a huge impact on your life. i think GREATANSETT, you have been very lucky to have been placed next to him on your flight and have the chance to hear the story for yourself, and i have to say, as a fellow Aussie, i wish Ansett were still in the skies.
 
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Tue Jul 13, 2004 6:11 am

If I recall, this was the accident in which the NTSB went back and re-opened the investigation and changed their final report.

It also proved that the NTSB is not infallible, hence the rationale and pressure to reopen the TW800 accident and report. But I digress.
 
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RE: Guess Who I Was Talking To Today?

Tue Jul 13, 2004 6:30 am

The guy we bought our house from lost his wife and mother in that UsAirways 737-400 that overran the runway in LGA. They were the only two killed.
 
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Tue Jul 13, 2004 6:47 am

I actually met Anwa at my Dads office. My dad worked for Ansett and now Air New Zealand but NZ is retiring the 737 fleet and so he will get the axe soon so he is now a developer. Anwa is my dad's resource manager that's how I meet his, the funniest thing is that I have known Anwa for a few months but I didn't know this about him.
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Tue Jul 13, 2004 7:05 am

2 weeks ago,the National Geographic channel on cable aired a one-hour documentary on this accident.It occurred in March 1989,not 1988. The plane did make it back to a safe landing in HNL thanks to the pilot,copilot and engineer who had no idea of what had happened until one of them walked downstairs and saw the hole!The actual footage of the large hole in the side of the 747 taken that night after landing was the most impressive sight I've seen in years.It extended the entire vertical length of the fuselage up to the upper deck right behind the cockpit area.They did interview the parents of one young man who died entensively.They took it upon themselves to do an investigation of their own and at one press conference went up to the table at the end and walked off down the hall with large notebooks of documents about the defective cargo door.They were quite the parents.I taped the documentary and it has not been on since then unfortunately.Of the 9 fatalities noted,they did mention that at least a couple passengers were sucked into engines 3 and 4 and only body parts remained.They landed a full passenger load, heavy 747 on 2 engines after dumping fuel.(Engines 3 and 4 were on fire and shut down.) The captain was interviewed at length also and spoke very well. I hope more people get a chance to see it someday.I'll never forget it. Tim
 
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Tue Jul 13, 2004 7:15 am

In both cases, the UA incident and the Turkish Airlines DC-10 accident over Paris, both manufacturers and airlines blamed it first on some ramper, who has closed the door, saying that he didn´t close the door correctly.
On the jumbo they were only lucky that the control cables for flight controls and engines were running under the ceiling and not through the floor like on the DC-10, else the plane would have crashed as well.

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Tue Jul 13, 2004 10:49 am

ive heard lots of coments about that flight.....it was in route from honolulu to sydney.....
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Tue Jul 13, 2004 10:51 am

"IIRC, Boeing were aware of this particular problem, and had issued a warning/advisory to the airlines, urging them to replace the locks on the cargo doors. However, the airlines were able to persuade the FAA to give them a couple of years to do it, instead of the few months they would normally have had to do it.

Unless, of course, you were referring to the fact that Boeing initially refused to accept the locks failure as the cause of the accident, in which you are absolutely correct."


Boeing waited until they had all sorts of experts up their a$$, and going to all sorts of media, to actually do something. There's no doubt they were aware of the problem, but the horrible thing is, they didn't do anything about it until it was too late. That seems to be the norm in the Aviation, as well as many other fields. If you look back on different plane crashes, you'll see a wide variety of incidents that were caused by known flaws that weren't addressed until it was too late. The same thing goes for vehicles. 100's of people can die in auto accidents due to flaws that the manufacturer,NTSB,whoever, knew about before anything is done...
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Tue Jul 13, 2004 11:06 am

AA300B- Welcome to A.net


Anyway, thats is a very interesting story, all of of you. Now its my turn: my grandma's close friend was killed on SwissAir FLT# 111. The MD-11 that crashed into Nova Scotia.
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Tue Jul 13, 2004 10:35 pm

As a post script to all of the above, the parents of the NZ gentleman that died,the ones who found out the real reason behind the tradegy have actually said in the TV documentry about the crash that they "Hoped it was their son that went through one of the engines , so he wouldn't of had to suffer".
Very harrowing...!

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Tue Jul 13, 2004 11:13 pm

Boeing waited until they had all sorts of experts up their a$$, and going to all sorts of media, to actually do something. There's no doubt they were aware of the problem, but the horrible thing is, they didn't do anything about it until it was too late. That seems to be the norm in the Aviation, as well as many other fields. If you look back on different plane crashes, you'll see a wide variety of incidents that were caused by known flaws that weren't addressed until it was too late. The same thing goes for vehicles. 100's of people can die in auto accidents due to flaws that the manufacturer,NTSB,whoever, knew about before anything is done...

Sadly, yes, this is true. The old "Tombstone Mentality."

It's not a problem until enough people die.  Sad
 
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Wed Jul 14, 2004 2:43 am

The family that lived next door to us when I was growing up, and who's son was in my school, were aboard TWA flight 847 that was hijacked in 1985 from Athens to Rome. The wife, son and daughter were released early on, but the husband remained on board for the duration. He told me they had no idea someone had been shot at the time, thinking the gun shot was an overhead bin closing. The neighborhood had a party for them when they returned safely.
 
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RE: Guess Who I Was Talking To Today?

Wed Jul 14, 2004 10:33 am

I know a guy who get free flights (first class) on AS
He was on the AS flight that went over the end of the runway in KTN back in 1976 I think... He has been flying 1st class ever since...!!!
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Wed Jul 14, 2004 10:53 am

My former neighbor was killed in private plane crash and a former supervisor was killed on the Swiss air crash a few years back. I came into the office at my usual time later in the afternoon and everyone was acting strange, finally someone explained that Dr. Stevenson in charge of our department was dead.
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Thu Jul 15, 2004 12:16 am

Me and my former girlfriend were supposed to be on SR 111 (MD11 crashed off Halifax in '98) heading back to Switzerland after our vacation. Luckily we decided to just add a couple of days in Miami and changed the flight back. You could imagine my eyes popping out when I saw the news at CNN. It was a very sad and silent flight back home, every F/A had black stripes around their arms and wet eyes. And as it wasn't hard enough, on every newspaper given by the crew, the headlines shouted the latest news about the tragedy against you.
It really makes you think about priorities in life... But never had troubles to fly again, flew the SR/LX MD11 a couple of times after the crash.

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