alespesl
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Flights In Europe Operated By Carriers Out Of EU.

Wed Jul 14, 2004 5:47 am

Hi there,

can you tell me if there are other flight except the one operated by Varig between AMS and CDG. I know this one can be booked on most websites.

Are there other city pairs that are operated with airlines from outside of EU?

Thanks
Ales
 
Kuba74
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RE: Flights In Europe Operated By Carriers Out Of EU.

Wed Jul 14, 2004 5:53 am

Air Namibia used to fly with B744 from Windhoek to London via Frankfurt. I`m not sure if it still operates this route.
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jmy007
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Wed Jul 14, 2004 7:42 am

Doesn't Delta fly SNN-DUB vsv?

I don't know what, if any local traffic rights there are.
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AMS
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RE: Flights In Europe Operated By Carriers Out Of EU.

Wed Jul 14, 2004 7:53 am

There is also Lan-Chile Madrid-Frankfurt-Madrid

Varig is also operating LHR-CPH-LHR

Jat Airways AMS-BRU


Regards,
AMS


 
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RE: Flights In Europe Operated By Carriers Out Of EU.

Wed Jul 14, 2004 7:56 am

A few years ago SQ and CX flew AMS - MAN with 5th freedomrights. Don't know if they still do.......
 
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RE: Flights In Europe Operated By Carriers Out Of EU.

Wed Jul 14, 2004 8:08 am

jmy007,


Delta does not have traffic rights on the SNN-DUB flights.


Regards,
AMS
 
donder10
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RE: Flights In Europe Operated By Carriers Out Of EU.

Wed Jul 14, 2004 8:22 am

There also some positioning flights within the EU for at least 1 African airline.
 
airblue
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RE: Flights In Europe Operated By Carriers Out Of EU.

Wed Jul 14, 2004 4:36 pm

TG on the FCO-MAD
Ethiopian on the FCO-ARN
EK on the FCO-MXP (but without rights to carry pax)
 
whitehatter
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RE: Flights In Europe Operated By Carriers Out Of EU.

Wed Jul 14, 2004 4:38 pm

SQ have rights on MAN-ZRH two days a week (744 equipment)
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ly7e7
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RE: Flights In Europe Operated By Carriers Out Of EU.

Wed Jul 14, 2004 5:45 pm

What about SV? It was mentioned earlier. FCO-PRG , if I remember correctly
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TriStar500
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RE: Flights In Europe Operated By Carriers Out Of EU.

Wed Jul 14, 2004 6:06 pm

There are also SV and KU (FRa-GVA), even it is not exactly intra-EU.
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photolppt
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RE: Flights In Europe Operated By Carriers Out Of EU.

Wed Jul 14, 2004 6:16 pm

TAAG Angola Airlines flies about twice a week LAD / LIS / CDG and back with their beautiful red B747-300s.

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AMS
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RE: Flights In Europe Operated By Carriers Out Of EU.

Wed Jul 14, 2004 6:20 pm

SV also has traffic rights between CDG and FCO


Regards,
AMS
 
sk945
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RE: Flights In Europe Operated By Carriers Out Of EU.

Wed Jul 14, 2004 7:53 pm

And Varig have the rights between LHR-CPH too.

 
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RE: Flights In Europe Operated By Carriers Out Of EU.

Wed Jul 14, 2004 7:56 pm

SK945,


I already mentioned the RG LHR-CPH-LHR Flights!


Regards,
AMS
 
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RE: Flights In Europe Operated By Carriers Out Of EU.

Wed Jul 14, 2004 8:00 pm

KU does a 3x weekly FCO-CDG with an AB6
1x weekly (Jun-Sept only) GVA-LHR with an A343
The Frankfurt-GVA is 2x weekly with their 343.
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RE: Flights In Europe Operated By Carriers Out Of EU.

Wed Jul 14, 2004 8:10 pm

The British mag Airliners International, in its current issue features a section of all 5th Freedom routes operated around the world. Its very informative if you can get a copy. Within Europe one interesting route is Ariana Afghan AB) (FRA / FRF / EDDF), Germany">FRA-IST..
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keno
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RE: Flights In Europe Operated By Carriers Out Of EU.

Wed Jul 14, 2004 8:21 pm

Until recently Malaysia Airlines flew FCO-VIE but at the moment all 8 European cities are served non-stop from KUL.
 
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RE: Flights In Europe Operated By Carriers Out Of EU.

Wed Jul 14, 2004 9:11 pm

PIA flys OSL/CPH
Thai has MAD/FCO
SQ has MAD/CDG
Varig has CDG/AMS. and CPH/LHR
I think Saudi has AB) (FRA / FRF / EDDF), Germany">FRA/CDG (at least use to have)
JAL has SVO/FCO
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dkny
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RE: Flights In Europe Operated By Carriers Out Of EU.

Wed Jul 14, 2004 9:12 pm

As mentioned above ET has rights on FCO-ARN
they also have rights on FCO-LHR
 
FinnWings
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RE: Flights In Europe Operated By Carriers Out Of EU.

Wed Jul 14, 2004 9:37 pm

Once a week operated cargo flight:

Korean Air Cargo
Helsinki-Luxembourg
B747-400ERF

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soups
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RE: Flights In Europe Operated By Carriers Out Of EU.

Wed Jul 14, 2004 11:19 pm

ET lhr-fco daily service b767/757
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JoFMO
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RE: Flights In Europe Operated By Carriers Out Of EU.

Wed Jul 14, 2004 11:49 pm

Its an interesting topic because it shows how many cabotage flights we have in Europe.
does it hurt our European carriers? I don't think so!

and that's exactly what the EU is lobbying from the us in the new aviation agreement. Why could the Americans think that these kind of cabotage hurts the local carriers?

the dot should look across the pond and give up their protective and consumer unfriendly behavior!
 
donder10
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RE: Flights In Europe Operated By Carriers Out Of EU.

Sun Jul 18, 2004 10:54 pm

Its an interesting topic because it shows how many cabotage flights we have in Europe.
does it hurt our European carriers? I don't think so!


Maybe so but it is very limited!
 
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RE: Flights In Europe Operated By Carriers Out Of EU.

Sun Jul 18, 2004 11:00 pm

What about SV? It was mentioned earlier. FCO-PRG , if I remember correctly

LY,
It's FRa-PRG. Twice weekly served with 777.


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