LHRman
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Skiathos Airport

Wed Jul 14, 2004 5:59 am

Hello all, just a quick question sorry if it is in the wrong forum but I was unsure on where to place it. I need some info about Skiathos airport and Thomas Cook. I'm sure someone out there can help me.

1st:
  • Can someone tell me the current schedule at Skiathos, which airliens fly when and what aircraft types they use.


  • 2nd:
  • Can people tell me their experiences on TCX or Thomas Cook (JMC) as I will be flying with them to Skiathos.


  • Any information will be greatly appreciated!

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    planesarecool
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    RE: Skiathos Airport

    Wed Jul 14, 2004 6:12 am

    If i remember correctly, the runway is only just over 5000ft long, which is why a lot of charter flights stop in Thessaloniki. I doubt there's much activity at the airport. The main charters that fly there are First Choice, Thomas Cook and Excel Airways, and most fly on tuesdays or fridays. These airlines will usually bring their smallest aircraft to the island, so you will probably get an A320, but that may just be an "off-peak" thing.

    Well expect some hard braking anyway  Big grin

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    RE: Skiathos Airport

    Wed Jul 14, 2004 6:25 am

    I flew with Thomas Cook fo JSI in May, the first flight of the season with TCX.

    I flew on an A320 from LGW and a 757-200 flew in just after us from MAN also operated by TCX.

    TCX was very good for a charter airline, the crew were great, meal wasn't bad and showed a film a new release film from the drop down LCD screens on both routes. The legroom isn't brilliant but bearable for a 3.5hr flight (found it better than Britannia).

    The aircrafts have a very modern feel with modern seating, lumbar support and nice blue seats.

    As we was the first flight home of the season and only had passengers on it which were staying for a week (75 pax), we managed to fly directly home with out refuelling at Thessalonika. But nearly all flights have to make a refuelling stop on the way home.

    (I think the only exception is Astreus, with their 737-700's)

    The airport can only handle 2 aicrafts at a time and limited to operating during daylight hours, so there is no more than 10-12 flights a day. Most UK charters and a daily service by Olympic from ATH using an ATR-42.

    If you are visiting Skiathos town walk along the harbour front (about 15min walk) to the perimeter of the runway and you will see the planes back track down the runway and take off. You can be standing about 50 feet from the aircraft on the main road!

    Feeling jet blast when they power up is pretty amazing. They require every bit of power to clear that runway! Landings are pretty cool too and the pilot definately slams on the brakes gives it everything to stop.


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    The road runs just infront of the runway by the sea front!


     
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    RE: Skiathos Airport

    Wed Jul 14, 2004 6:33 am

    I remember reading that Astraeus are the only airline that can operate direct Skiathos-UK flights with their B737-700s
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    RE: Skiathos Airport

    Wed Jul 14, 2004 6:38 am

    I think i remember hearing somwhere, that fuel was very expensive in Skiathos (and a couple of other Greek places), so charter airlines tend to "fill up" in Thessaloniki, so they do not need to pay for fuel in Skiathos. My friend flew there last year with MYT on an A320 and said that, when departing, they would put the parking brake on and apply full thrust, then release the parking brake, giving the aircraft a great sense of movement and enabling it to get off quicker. I'm not sure if this is always the case.

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    RE: Skiathos Airport

    Wed Jul 14, 2004 6:39 am

    For scheduled services, I'd guess, it's only:
    OA 782 D ATH JSI 1410 1500 0 28MAR04 30OCT04 AT4 0:50
    OA 783 D JSI ATH 1525 1610 0 28MAR04 30OCT04 AT4 0:45

    Maybe, some addl. Info might be available on:
    http://www.hcaa-eleng.gr/skiathos.htm
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    RE: Skiathos Airport

    Wed Jul 14, 2004 6:45 am

    Its nothing to do with cost of fuel at Skiathos Airport.

    Due to the length of the runway the aircrafts have to operate with weight restrictions and cannot safely clear the runway with a full payload of passengers and fuel to get to the UK.

    As I previously stated, I flew with TCX in May on an A320 with only about 75 passengers and we managed to fly back to the UK non-stop due to the light load.
     
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    RE: Skiathos Airport

    Wed Jul 14, 2004 6:58 am

    As Giles said,
    Skiathos is a very restrictive airport, the runway is short (5526ft) - all retardation devices must be functional to operate into JSI. Any problems with the aircraft's brakes/reverse-thust systems which would normally be allowed under the MEL preclude the aircraft from landing at Skiathos.

    Also, in order to land at JSI the runway must be dry, if it has rained sufficiently for the runway to be classified as "wet" then a diversion to the primary alternate is required, usually Athens or Thessalonika. Hardly ever a problem at this time of year, but can cause problems in May and October when the weather isn't as good.

    Normal operations at Skiathos are daylight-only due to the demanding nature of the airport - special approval is required from the airport to allow night operations.

    Due to the narrow runway JSI is restricted to aircraft of 757 size and below - anything larger would not be able to make the required 180 degree turns at the runway ends for take-off/landing. Standard runway width at commercial airports is 148'/45m - Skiathos' runway is just 98'/30m wide, one third less than standard width. Even with turning circles at both ends, it is still narrow...

    The terminal is very small and congested. As aircraft parking is very restricted ATC delays are fairly common - an aircraft cannot be allowed to arrive until the aircraft on the ground occupying it's parking space has departed! Friday is the busiest day, and hence can suffer the worst delays. That said, the staff down in Skiathos are very used to the pressure they're put under due to the limited resources, and do an outstanding job under the circumstances. Given the facilities they have - it's virtually impossible to fault them.

    There are some recent shots of Skiathos showing the location of the airport, and some of the types that visit here

    Enjoy Skaithos - it's fairly unique!

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    RE: Skiathos Airport

    Thu Jul 15, 2004 2:27 am

    Been there 4 times before so I know what its like. It is one hell of an experience when there are planes so close. Thanks for all the info guys its much appreciated, the reason I asked was because I can't find a website that tells you the schedules and I wanted to plan what days I would spend at the airport and which at Kolios, Koukanaries or Mandraki (in my view the best beeches in the world). Do you see why I asked? Anyway thanks for all the extra info its much appreciated and I will be doing a trip report so look forward to a good read! Here is me standing under an A321 Air 2000, landing on runway 02 in 2001: One more question, do the greeks allow airband scanners at there airports or isn't it a good idea?



    Thanks Dave Big grin (me on the far right in the greece national football shirt).

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    RE: Skiathos Airport

    Thu Jul 15, 2004 2:56 am

    Its nothing to do with cost of fuel at Skiathos Airport.

    Due to the length of the runway the aircrafts have to operate with weight restrictions and cannot safely clear the runway with a full payload of passengers and fuel to get to the UK.


    Notice i said that in my first post  Big grin
    -Stephen

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