airbear
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SAS Eurobonus FFP ... YES Or NO?

Wed Jul 14, 2004 1:00 pm

Hi.... a question mainly for the Scandinavian A.netters ... I intend using a trip to/from Europe on SK in C class ex Asia later this year, as the basis for having a pool of points on Star Alliance once again, since Ansett went down. One of the main attractions of EuroB. is that I can also use my constant QF flights to accrue mileage, but not status of course.

Having seen the thread yesterday about Snowflake, and rumored changes to their FFP, do you think it is still worth joining EuroBonus now, or will I possibly lose the points if they close the FFP down or something like that? Or even if SK closes down? Is there also the possibility later that EuroBonus might be rolled into LH/OS's Miles & More?

Your thoughts and opinions will be very much appreciated.
 
QIguy24
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RE: SAS Eurobonus FFP ... YES Or NO?

Wed Jul 14, 2004 1:45 pm

I have SAS Eurobonuscard. And I am very satisfied with that program.
If I were you I would join Eurobonus if I were you. And the thing about Snowflake I haven't heard about that. But it has never been possible to get points on snowflake.
And SAS will never close down. Believe me. They are having a touhg time now. But they still have a lot of money $$$ in the company. So don't worry about that. Because I'm not Big grin
 
copenhagenboy
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RE: SAS Eurobonus FFP ... YES Or NO?

Wed Jul 14, 2004 2:43 pm

I think it is one of the best kept secrets that you can earn and use EB on Qantas, although I have known it for years. How is it the other way round? I am very satisfied about Eurobonus too. Although only Basic member, but flying longhaul normally ones a year, also on very cheap tickets, the last years I have been in Amsterdam incl. a weekend bargain stay at SAS Raddison and this autumn I am going to South Europe. On the other hand do they give you any good offers in Australia, how easy is it to earn points and to use them?
 
airbear
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RE: SAS Eurobonus FFP ... YES Or NO?

Wed Jul 14, 2004 3:29 pm

Hi There ...

Qlguy24 , thanks for your reply and opinions. Very much appreciated.

Copenhagenboy... yes, it is a well kept secret, and probably just as well, as I suppose that neither Star or oneworld want to encourage this cross-alliance points earning. So... yes, you can also earn points flying on SK in QFF as well. 100% of actual miles for Y-class and 125% for C class, but only for flights between Asia & Europe or within Europe/Scandinavia (aside from the well-known points ban on Norwegian domestic flts). I guess allowing flts. to the USA from CPH/ARN would be too much for BA/AA to tolerate. As for award flights on SK (as I found out last week when I tried to book a reward flt. w/in Europe using QF points...), you can only book award flights to/from Asia or within Scandinavia only.

As far as EB offers in Australia are concerned, there is not much apparently, since they don't fly here (great pity). The only earning opportunities aside from other Star carriers here (i.e. SQ/TG/NZ/UA/AC/OS) are a very small number of Radisson hotels. No credit card points or other brand hotel/car rental points. Still, this doesn't concern me too much, as I have all of this kind of thing with QF, and I mainly want the EB points to use for upgrades on future SK flights to Europe. SK are very active in Australia, marketing very competitive Y-Extra and C-class fares to Europe ex SIN/BKK/AA), Japan">NRT or USA.

By the way, have you got any experience with SK's Y-Extra? Is it much better comfort-wise than ordinary Y class?

Thanks once again, and best regards.
 
QIguy24
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RE: SAS Eurobonus FFP ... YES Or NO?

Wed Jul 14, 2004 3:57 pm

Airbear,

I have been flying both Y-class andC-Class on SAS longhaul. And I think their product is excellent. The only reason I have tried that, is because I have been flying on a ID-Ticket. I could never afford it if I had to pay full fare. Big grin
But I can tell you that you will make a really good choice to fly SAS either you fly economy or business. SAS is one of the best airlines in the world IMO. It's Scandinavian at its best.  Big thumbs up

[Edited 2004-07-14 08:58:27]
 
copenhagenboy
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RE: SAS Eurobonus FFP ... YES Or NO?

Wed Jul 14, 2004 4:19 pm

Airbear, yes I have ones been upgraded from Y to Y +, BKK-CPH, don't know why, well, maybe because I asked if there were less passengers in the middle cabin, suddenly the check-in agent took here phone and at no time I was upgraded, I didn't even ask for it, and I am not Silver or Gold  Wink/being sarcastic It must have been my cute smile, hehe.
Well I like SAS in Y, but I must say the comfort in Y+ is much better,bigger seat, more pitch, good support for you feet. 7 seat in each row, instead of 8. Electronic seats. The service is the same as in Y, but you are served before the rest. But I really don't care about the food. I felt much better when I arrived at by destination, CPH.
If will sure use my miles to be upgrade from Y to Y+ in the future. The good thing about SAS is that, if there are any seats, you can do it regardless of what bookingclass you have bought.
Regards

[Edited 2004-07-14 09:32:50]
 
birka340
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RE: SAS Eurobonus FFP ... YES Or NO?

Wed Jul 14, 2004 5:05 pm

I absolutely think you shall enroll for an EuroBonus membership if using
points for future upgrade.

If you enroll in Australia you "only" need 25.000 Basic points for a Silver membership and 55.000 Basic points for a Gold membership.
When a Silver member you earn 15% extra Basic (Gold 25%)
points when traveling in Business Class on SAS operated flights.

In Business Class you earn oneway
Bangkok - Copenhagen 10.800
Singapore - Copenhagen 12.200
Tokyo - Copenhagen 11.400

An upgrade to Y-class is only 10.000 points per one-way.

The inflight service is almost the same in Y+ as Y.
Two choices of meal, inflight snacks, bottled water, comfort kit and the comfort of the chair.

//Birka



 
airbear
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RE: SAS Eurobonus FFP ... YES Or NO?

Wed Jul 14, 2004 5:28 pm

Thanks for the replys folks, and the reassurances re EB. I am looking forward to the trip and to SK as usual. I flew SK C class on the A343's BKK/CPH/BKK back in 2002. Before that, in 1982-89 in the DC-10 days on several trips. I always enjoyed SK.
 
eric
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RE: SAS Eurobonus FFP ... YES Or NO?

Wed Jul 14, 2004 8:36 pm

Airbear; I am currently a Eurobonus member and I'd perhaps recommend you not to join it. Whereas the great advantage for you is perhaps the Qantas points exchange for Eurobonus, Eurobonus is not a great program if you are a "light" traveler. In stead I'd perhaps recommend bmi's Diamond Club because as a DC member you earn full points, and if you travel on different metal than bmi, ie, your points won't be multiplied by a factor .25 or .5 like it perhaps will if on a bmi flight. It only takes 16,000 miles to reach silver unlike SAS 25,000, which is achieveable. Silver gains you access to bmi lounges in Europe, which with SAS will not give you any access unless on a C-ticket or as a *AG member. I just joined DC, and although I have yet to fly on a flight, I feel I perhaps will be more satisfied than with Eurobonus. But as an airline, espcially on long-haul, SAS is one of the best IMO.

Eric
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airbear
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RE: SAS Eurobonus FFP ... YES Or NO?

Wed Jul 14, 2004 8:41 pm

Eric... thanks. I'll look into it.
 
Jan Mogren
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RE: SAS Eurobonus FFP ... YES Or NO?

Thu Jul 15, 2004 4:37 am

> multiplied by a factor .25 or .5 <

Who would want their miles multiplied by .25 ?

 Wink/being sarcastic

/JM
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Lufthansa747
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RE: SAS Eurobonus FFP ... YES Or NO?

Thu Jul 15, 2004 4:50 am

BD DC is 100% on star alliance, less miles on BD metal.
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copenhagenboy
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RE: SAS Eurobonus FFP ... YES Or NO?

Thu Jul 15, 2004 5:50 am

I have always been thinking it was strange not to give 100% to your own FF members, but you can earn it flying on other airliners of the same alliance. At least it should be the other way around. Maybe I am stupied but I don't get it.  Confused

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