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A380 Size A Problem To Major Airports?

Fri Jul 16, 2004 2:58 am

As we all know the A380 is going to be very large and many Airlines are starting to order them. I read in today's paper about San Francisco being the only Californian airport able to allow A380 operations. Is this going to change? How Many airports all over the world are ready for the newest largest airliner?

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RE: A380 Size A Problem To Major Airports?

Fri Jul 16, 2004 3:19 am

AmericanAirFan, as far as I know, Munich is already certified, and Frankfurt (where they'll be commencing the building of an A380 maintenance hall soon) is getting ready - as is Heathrow.

Not sure how far Dubai and Singapore are, but they'll most likely all be on track to be A380-ready soon.

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RE: A380 Size A Problem To Major Airports?

Fri Jul 16, 2004 5:10 am

With Fedex having ten A380s on order ( I believe its ten ) GSO is excepted to see them and is in the process of preparing for the plane. My question is, will RDU and CLT need to be converted for the A380 to land at if GSO isn't suitable at the time?
 
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RE: A380 Size A Problem To Major Airports?

Fri Jul 16, 2004 5:17 am

Watched Bloomberg today: LAX is building for A380 Big grin

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RE: A380 Size A Problem To Major Airports?

Fri Jul 16, 2004 5:22 am

RDU777,

doubtful for RDU. Probably if either it would be CLT since they would have the closest runway for the A380. i think RDU should be looking at the 7E7.. LOL..
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RE: A380 Size A Problem To Major Airports?

Fri Jul 16, 2004 5:27 am

My question is, will RDU and CLT need to be converted for the A380 to land at if GSO isn't suitable at the time?

If RDU or CLT can handle a 744 (which I believe they can), then they can handle the 380 in a diversion situation with almost no extra work needed, since the pavement loading is similar to a 744. It wouldn't be enough to handle them on a regular basis, but as long as it's diversions only, and as long as there's a remote stand to park them at where the wingspan won't block taxiways, minimal problems.
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RE: A380 Size A Problem To Major Airports?

Fri Jul 16, 2004 5:40 am

I was thinking if Fed-Ex has ordered 10 A380's won't MEM have to remodel to accommodate them? Or can it already handle a/c of that size?
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RE: A380 Size A Problem To Major Airports?

Fri Jul 16, 2004 7:00 am

Terminal D, the new international terminal at DFW, will easily handle a A380.

It's because the terminal will be so empty and there will be so much room!

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RE: A380 Size A Problem To Major Airports?

Fri Jul 16, 2004 5:14 pm

My question is, will RDU and CLT need to be converted for the A380 to land at if GSO isn't suitable at the time?

If RDU or CLT can handle a 744 (which I believe they can), then they can handle the 380 in a diversion situation with almost no extra work needed, since the pavement loading is similar to a 744. It wouldn't be enough to handle them on a regular basis, but as long as it's diversions only, and as long as there's a remote stand to park them at where the wingspan won't block taxiways, minimal problems
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It is true that just about any airport that can handle commercial jets will be able to handle an A380 diversion. You can always use airstairs on the tarmac to unload. It would not use much runway at all to take off if enough payload and fuel is offloaded, and landing distance is not nearly as much of a problem as takeoff distance for most airliners.

And you are right that the ability to handle a diversion does not neccesarily mean the ability to handle regular flights. You could land a 747 at Midway or at SPI in an emergency, and you could even take off again. But payload restrictions and gate restrictions would stop any attempt to have regular service.
 
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RE: A380 Size A Problem To Major Airports?

Fri Jul 16, 2004 10:41 pm

SFO is probably the only airport on the USA right now that could handle the A380-800 with no additional upgrades for two reasons:

1. The current International Terminal (Concourses A and G) that opened in 2000 was designed and built at the same time Airbus was in the A3XX definition phase, so the parking gates at Concourses A and G have 80 x 80 meter gates that could fit the A388 and also the gates can easily be upgraded to dual-level jet bridges if the airlines request that.

2. SFO recently completed runway and taxiway improvements that will allow safe ground operations of the A388.

As such, SFO will become one of the very first airports to get A388 flights. Singapore Airlines' SQ 001/002 flights on the SIN to SFO route via HKG are extremely popular year-round, and will likely switch to the A388 as soon as SQ gets enough A388's.
 
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RE: A380 Size A Problem To Major Airports?

Sat Jul 17, 2004 6:01 am

Montreal YUL is building a special gate along their new international expansion jetty to accomodate Air France's A380. Arriving passengers will be shuttled to the upper level directly in the loading bridge while passengers departing will be on the level below. I was part of a group of airliners.netters who went through the construction site and saw this setup and was quite impressed by the design.

 
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RE: A380 Size A Problem To Major Airports?

Sat Jul 17, 2004 6:25 am

JFK Terminal 4 is already prepared for the 380. It was built with two gates for the 380 in mind.
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RE: A380 Size A Problem To Major Airports?

Sat Jul 17, 2004 9:11 am

Nothing is official for LAX, yet. The mayor has proposed a controversial plan to revamp the entire airport that is getting a lot of opposition from the airlines and just about everyone else involved. His plan involves a lot of issues in addition to accommodating the A380.

If the airport is not ready it's my understanding that after landing the aircraft will taxi to an area near the beach and passengers will be loaded onto busses and will go from there to the terminal.

That prospect would be a nightmare. Imagine how long it will take to unload 555 passengers on to busses. One of the big issues is cost. I think Airbus and/or the airlines flying the A380 should pay the cost of modifying the airport... that would speed up the process.