NIKV69
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JAL 744 Returns To JFK? Engines?

Sat Jul 17, 2004 1:22 am

Weird thing this morning. Just before 8AM. A JAL 744 came in real low over us here in it's way to JFK. It is not a normal landing pattern and I heard him fooling with his engines. Sure seems like her was returning to JFK after a take-off. Don't know the flight#. Could someone find something out? Post it!
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NIKV69
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RE: JAL 744 Returns To JFK? Engines?

Sat Jul 17, 2004 4:51 am

Come on any JFK employees here? I am almost positive this 744 had to return to JFK after departure. The Captain was really on the engines too. Also had his landing coming out very late in the final.
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RE: JAL 744 Returns To JFK? Engines?

Sat Jul 17, 2004 4:53 am

Have you tried going to jfktower.com and posting a message on the forum there? Some of the ATCs on that web site might know.
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RE: JAL 744 Returns To JFK? Engines?

Sat Jul 17, 2004 5:22 am

0800 is the normal arrival time for JAL 46 ( I think that's the flight number). It goes out at 1010 as JAL 47 to NRT.
 
TokyoNarita
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RE: JAL 744 Returns To JFK? Engines?

Sat Jul 17, 2004 7:10 am

JAL 047 arrives from Sao Paulo/GRU...around 0800. Then continues on to Narita around 1000.

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RE: JAL 744 Returns To JFK? Engines?

Sat Jul 17, 2004 7:14 am

The engine sounds you have heard was probely a 743 heavy appoching JFK


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TokyoNarita
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RE: JAL 744 Returns To JFK? Engines?

Sat Jul 17, 2004 7:18 am

The flight should be operated by B744.

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RE: JAL 744 Returns To JFK? Engines?

Sat Jul 17, 2004 7:23 am

His flaps and spoilers were probably fully deployed, therefore needing to power up to maintain proper airspeed.
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RE: JAL 744 Returns To JFK? Engines?

Sat Jul 17, 2004 7:30 am

TOKYONARITA,

Yes It was defenetly a 744, before the 743 was doing this Route!



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RE: JAL 744 Returns To JFK? Engines?

Sat Jul 17, 2004 7:52 am

Come on any JFK employees here? I am almost positive this 744 had to return to JFK after departure. The Captain was really on the engines too. Also had his landing coming out very late in the final.

It was probably a visual approach - it's a nice day today and some airline pilots do ask for visual approaches to get on the ground faster. (Listen to the JFK tower sometime - you'll hear them. The tower ATC is available on the net.)

My last flight back from Japan on ANA, we did a really weird approach also - seemed to descend very fast and got on the localizer only a few miles from the airport. Probably also a visual approach (was a nice day as well).

The engine revving sounds pretty normal - with flaps and slats out to 30/40 degrees it can take a lot of power to make speed adjustments. And they may have also been a little low on the glideslope, judging by your description. But probably no big deal.
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RE: JAL 744 Returns To JFK? Engines?

Sat Jul 17, 2004 10:19 am

It was a 400, saw the winglets. A friend of mine who is a CFI was there also and was a little concerned. He seemed to think the pilot wasn't having the easiest time. He was really low and in three years we have never seen a jumbo this low that far out from JFK coming over us in fact I would definitely say he was way too low for that distance out. I will try that site Nyc777. Thanks!
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