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Boeing 747 Over DAB, Help

Sat Jul 17, 2004 8:10 am

Maybe some of you flight tracking guru's can help me out. At 6:30pm and then again at 7pm est today an all white 747-200 was fairly low, going over DAB feild and then heading south, south west. No livery whatsoever. I had seen the first one, my buddy (another pilot) called about the 2nd one, which was even lower and closer. He called the tower, all they would say is that it was headed to Sanford/Orlando airport.

It just has my curiousity up a bit. We usually only see 747's higher and when they are getting around weather. And they usually have livery on them.

Any help would be appreciated.
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RE: Boeing 747 Over DAB, Help

Sat Jul 17, 2004 8:34 am

The only white 747's I see every now and then are LY . Completely white, no livery. They are Cargo btw.
 
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RE: Boeing 747 Over DAB, Help

Sat Jul 17, 2004 8:41 am

Air Atlanta operate various 747s on behalf of tour-operator Travel City Direct from the UK to SFB.
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Fairly safe bet it was an Air Atlanta aircraft if it was heading for Sanford!

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RE: Boeing 747 Over DAB, Help

Sat Jul 17, 2004 11:23 am

Also, one can catch other European charters inbound to SFB come over over the DAB waypoint. I have seen MyTravel and Monarch A330s come in low over DAB.
 
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RE: Boeing 747 Over DAB, Help

Sat Jul 17, 2004 11:27 pm

I didn't see the 747 unfortunately. Weren't there still thunderstorms in the area at that time.


I did however see a relatively low flying 747 right after I moved here in May. I was in my backyard cooking on the grill when a 747-200 approached from the east and circled over my apartment and headed southwest. I was assuming it was the Virgin 742 at MCO just flying lower than normal.

I have seen MCO bound aircraft fly at lower altitudes over DAB too when there are thunderstorms around MCO because I am not aware of any A320s that fly to SFB, and that is what I saw at about 3500 ft 2 weeks back. Couldnt tell what company though because i was looking to the sun.

But I have seen SFB bound aircraft like the Transmeridean MD-80s fly at about 3500 ft along with various European 767s and A330s.

I looked at Flytecomm for SFB and nothing is showing up for yesterday that would be flying 747s.

My only other guess is that it could have been the Atlanta icelandic 742 that Virgin uses. I have seen the all white 742 at MCO. They may have gotten permission to fly below the clouds last night and perhaps were running late.

I don't think the EAL 747s come to SFB until winter.
 
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RE: Boeing 747 Over DAB, Help

Sun Jul 18, 2004 12:38 am

Yeah, there were thunderstorms to the west. I assumed that is what was causing the unusual route over DAB. Best guess would be 6,000 or so for the first, and maybe around 4,000 for the second. I evened wondered if for some reason it was the same aircraft... weird to have both all white and within 30 minutes of each other. And though 74's may land at Sanford, 2 within that time frame seemed weird.

Unfortunately, my buddy didn't get a hold of the guy he personally knows at tower, who would have told him all the details. The guy who answered the phone was a bit gunshy about providing info, and all he would say was that it was heading to Sanford.

Either way, it was very cool to see a 747 that low over DAB.. twice... and wherever it was going I'm glad I got to see it.

And to you who replied... thank you.

[Edited 2004-07-17 17:39:05]
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RE: Boeing 747 Over DAB, Help

Sun Jul 18, 2004 12:45 am

They would have been Air Atlanta Europe/Travel City Direct, seeing as they sent four to Sanford yesterday. Hlywdcatft, EAL have entered "Voluntary Administration" and will no longer be flying to Sanford.

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RE: Boeing 747 Over DAB, Help

Sun Jul 18, 2004 1:11 am

I also saw a few 747s fly overhead when I was in DAB in May.
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RE: Boeing 747 Over DAB, Help

Sun Jul 18, 2004 2:47 am

I live on the final for runway 9 at SFB and there were a fair bit of thunderstorms during the time you were speaking of. I see the all white B-747's quite a bit around here as well.
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RE: Boeing 747 Over DAB, Help

Sun Jul 18, 2004 5:21 am

I didn't realize anyone was flying 747s into SFB at this time of the year.

You can regularly see the Virgin 744s flying overhead to MCO around DAB, but they are probably about 8,000 feet up or more.
 
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RE: Boeing 747 Over DAB, Help

Mon Jul 19, 2004 12:58 pm

I saw a low flying 747 today around the time you saw it just west of DAB. I was looking towards the hazy sun, but the plane appeared to have a red tail like it was a Virgin. It was kind of strange since MCO bound aircraft are usually about 7-8000 ft (i estimate) up, but this aircraft was about 4,000 ft up (like about the altitude you would see a plane flying over Altamonte Springs or Casselberry heading to MCO).
 
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RE: Boeing 747 Over DAB, Help

Mon Jul 19, 2004 3:08 pm

The thunderstorms was most likely the reason. Don't forget that the main northeast arrival into MCO is the BITHO7 arrival. The published hold for this STAR is the LAMMA intersection which is 17NM south of the OMN VOR. The OMN VOR is by the Ormond airport so 17NM south from there would be over the southern end of Daytona/northern end of Port Orange. When there are bad thunderstorms over MCO, I can look up and see 2 or 3 aircraft in that published hold. I imagine why that 747 was low was maybe due to other aircraft stacked higher in the hold.

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RE: Boeing 747 Over DAB, Help

Mon Jul 19, 2004 9:14 pm

Cool that you saw a Virgin 747, but even on the higher of the 2 747's I saw it was clearly all white, and the second one was so low that there is no doubt whatsoever.

Good info B777ER. I've actually come into MCO crossing the beach somewhere around Ponce Inlet, which would be the arrival you are speaking of. But as HlywdCatft said, these were at altitudes you'd expect to see them at around the Altamonte Springs area. Weather or stacking probably being the reason, I was guessing weather at the time.
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