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JetStar Close Call At Hamilton Island Today

Sun Jul 18, 2004 6:50 pm

Just saw on Sky News Oz reports of a JetStar 717 on takeoff from YHMI experiencing a dangerously close call with an unspecified QANTAS aircraft. Apparently the Jetstar pilot had to put the 717 into a very steep right hand turn to avoid the other plane.
 
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RE: JetStar Close Call At Hamilton Island Today

Sun Jul 18, 2004 7:57 pm

Pax on the news saying that it was terrifying... Yet no one mentioned it to the cabin crew!!! I know one of the FAs. He said not a single pax said a thing. Not one! He said they thought it was odd the pax didn't mention it. Strange that when approached by the media they get all upset and said they were petrified! Crew were debriefed. Two FAs required counselling.

Other aircraft was a Qantas 737 entering the circuit to land. No exact distances confirmed yet. But my friend described it as "very" close and the turn was quite dramatic. He is definately keen not to experience such a manouvre again!
 
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RE: JetStar Close Call At Hamilton Island Today

Sun Jul 18, 2004 8:24 pm

Passengers also said that no announcement was made to explain the incident on board either! A bit slack in my opinion!
 
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RE: JetStar Close Call At Hamilton Island Today

Mon Jul 19, 2004 8:50 am

Why bring it up if no one seemed concerned by it?
 
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Mon Jul 19, 2004 11:36 am

Well it was an "incident" and a serious one at that so i think they were right to bring it up. If these 2 planes did indeed get to within a few metres of each other then this was a very serious incident and needs to be fully investigated. On the other hand if they are exaggerating the distance then i guess they are just trying to get a news story.
 
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RE: JetStar Close Call At Hamilton Island Today

Mon Jul 19, 2004 6:01 pm

Jetstar is now copping it in the news about this incident how its all their fault bla bla bla, I hate it when they blame the airlines for incidents like this coz it's 99% air traffic controls fault, having said that fingers shouldn't be pointed before the exact cause is found out.
At the same time Jetstar was criticised today for employing 5 people to load and unload 3 planes while Qantas and Virgin employ 6 per aircraft, the JQ staff are forced to work 19 hour shifts in "sweatshop" conditions and someone hurt themselves the other day after they fell from an aircraft.
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RE: JetStar Close Call At Hamilton Island Today

Mon Jul 19, 2004 10:29 pm

5-6 people working a flight? You call that sweat shop conditions? Our contractor here at SFO has 3 people per flight on a 737-400/-700/and -900's. We have 30-36 min. turns and do just fine. I don't think 5-6 guy are need on a 737 or 717.

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RE: JetStar Close Call At Hamilton Island Today

Mon Jul 19, 2004 11:39 pm

The baggage handlers are from Express Ground Handling - a QF company. They are NOT JQ employees nor does JQ have a say in how many of them are employed. They just pay EGH for the service provided, as set in the contract. EGH sets staffing levels. And for your information these employees are paid the same as their counterparts on the QF ramp and receive QF staff benefits. Don't believe everything in the media.

Lauda777 -
It could be the fault of either crew OR the air traffic control. Don't go pointing fingers.

I think QF would have a hard time explaining if it was the 737s fault (pure speculation) and not JQs. How would QF Media Relations explain that I wonder?!
 
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RE: JetStar Close Call At Hamilton Island Today

Tue Jul 20, 2004 12:32 am


I think Jetstar are going through a bit of tall poppy lopping at the moment. I think we should see the CASA report before making comment....