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Airbus Lengthens Lead Over Boeing At Farnborugh Ai

Thu Jul 22, 2004 8:02 am

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/afp/20040721/ts_afp/britain_turkey_air
 
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RE: Airbus Lengthens Lead Over Boeing At Farnborugh Ai

Thu Jul 22, 2004 8:18 am

Why is Boeing shutting down the 757 line?  Big grin
 
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RE: Airbus Lengthens Lead Over Boeing At Farnborugh Ai

Thu Jul 22, 2004 8:23 am

LOL Maiznblu_757! They are shutting it down to annoy A.nutters of course.
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RE: Airbus Lengthens Lead Over Boeing At Farnborugh Ai

Thu Jul 22, 2004 8:41 am

Maiznblu: Boeing wants to sell 7E7s. Production, employment, etc.
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RE: Airbus Lengthens Lead Over Boeing At Farnborugh Ai

Thu Jul 22, 2004 8:46 am

No orders left for the 757 either. Time for something new.

There just isn't any mileage left in the 757 range, so the 7E7 will cover a fair chunk of what the 757 offers and more. The 739 takes care of the single-aisle requirements that still exist.

A hard act to follow but the 7E7 looks like it'll fill the boots of its predecessor admirably.
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RE: Airbus Lengthens Lead Over Boeing At Farnborugh Ai

Thu Jul 22, 2004 8:47 am

So, build the 757NG... I dont think it would be a bad idea.
 
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RE: Airbus Lengthens Lead Over Boeing At Farnborugh Ai

Thu Jul 22, 2004 8:50 am

Boeing are doing.

It's called the 7E7.

There isn't any market left for a medium range narrowbody with the 757's profile, which is why nobody has bought one for ages now
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RE: Airbus Lengthens Lead Over Boeing At Farnborugh Ai

Thu Jul 22, 2004 8:52 am

Sounds like boeing is not doing very well. They somehow need to figure out a way to reverse this trend. I wonder if the US gov. policies (foreign) are anyway contributing to boeings' low sales. I know that most of the people will say that these are separate issues, but couldn't help wonder. I say this because most of the customers with huge orders are Muslim majority countries and there is no need to speculate how the Muslim's feel about US gov. foreign policies.

No hard feeling for anyone, above was just an observation!!
 
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RE: Airbus Lengthens Lead Over Boeing At Farnborugh Ai

Thu Jul 22, 2004 8:54 am

I know. I know. I know...

Its just that I am sad to see the line shutting down, thats all.
 
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RE: Airbus Lengthens Lead Over Boeing At Farnborug

Thu Jul 22, 2004 8:54 am

So, build the 757NG... I dont think it would be a bad idea.

Or... build a whole new aircraft that covers way more market than the 757 did. Enter 7E7-3

There isn't any market left for a medium range narrowbody with the 757's profile, which is why nobody has bought one for ages now

It was really down to the scraps for the 757. Had the 753 entered service much earlier, I bet it would have gained several more customers. Regardless, it had an exellent production run, breaking the 1,000 frame mark.
 
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RE: Airbus Lengthens Lead Over Boeing At Farnborugh Ai

Thu Jul 22, 2004 8:59 am

I think it's ridiculous to say Boeing isn't doing well because they're not selling as many planes as Airbus this year...

This post is just ANOTHER STUPID THREAD aimed at starting yet another stupid A vs. B war.

Get over it people.
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RE: Airbus Lengthens Lead Over Boeing At Farnborugh Ai

Thu Jul 22, 2004 9:03 am


I can't help it , but I'm really happy for the European aircraft industry! After so many years of economic trouble we finally get jobs again! That said, I hope Boeing survives because we need cometition.

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RE: Airbus Lengthens Lead Over Boeing At Farnborug

Thu Jul 22, 2004 10:32 am

It's great to see a once underdog become the reign supreme.... but Airbus can't get too comfy... Boeing is a force to be reckoned with.. they have the experience, determination and the money to come back with full vengeance.

This is why I have always said the outspoken Leahey is doing a disservice to Airbus by coming out with disparaging remarks...

Boeing is a sleeping giant and about time that it's waking up... if the 7E7 meets the performance expectations that boeing is currently making, such as performance/range, efficiency, cabin improvement, and price - it's going to hit Airbus real hard. It's just a matter of time where the technology in the 7E7 is incorporated in the 737, 747 and 777...

PS... these orders that are announced this week don't mean much, they are all MOU's (financing and contracts need to be drawn up) and they don't reflect the other 51 weeks in the year...
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RE: Airbus Lengthens Lead Over Boeing At Farnborugh Ai

Thu Jul 22, 2004 1:00 pm

Makes it easier for all...

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/afp/20040721/ts_afp/britain_turkey_air

I really don't see Muslim resentment over U.S. policies much affecting airliner sales; airlines generally make fleet acquisition decisions for business reasons. You don't hear carriers publicly snubbing Boeing because their respective nations criticize U.S. foreign policy. As for the latest Airbus Air Show order sweep, it's common knowledge that they save a lot of these announcements for the show for the PR value; many of the deals were in the works long before the show. This is a practice Boeing says it won't do anymore, while Airbus has done it for a number of years, now. Boeing will announce orders whenever they happen without waiting for a vaunted media event to do so.





 
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RE: Airbus Lengthens Lead Over Boeing At Farnborugh Ai

Thu Jul 22, 2004 2:53 pm

Come on kids! Both Airbus and Boeing make great planes despite what their respective, more extreme fans may say. I can't see either company achieving the levels of dominance that Boeing once had. Both companies have said that they expect their market share to shift around the 50/50 mark, but may go out as far as 60/40 in individual years either way.

Airbus has a sales lead at the moment, but if all the 7E7 deposits Boeing says they have become firm orders, then they will likely have the lead by the end of the year.

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RE: Airbus Lengthens Lead Over Boeing At Farnborugh Ai

Thu Jul 22, 2004 3:11 pm

Airbus Lengthens Lead Over Boeing At Farnborugh Ai

B727fan sounds like a baseball sportscaster to me....

The airline industry isnt a sport, people! Get a grip!
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RE: Airbus Lengthens Lead Over Boeing At Farnborugh Ai

Thu Jul 22, 2004 3:21 pm

It was really down to the scraps for the 757. Had the 753 entered service much earlier, I bet it would have gained several more customers. Regardless, it had an exellent production run, breaking the 1,000 frame mark.

A beautiful plane to fly on, and it'll be flying for decades yet. The 757 is the DC-8 of recent years, built like a tank. Look at frame number 8, still flying in charter config for MYT (and that's punishing!)

I agree with the 753 comment. The charter carriers would have been more interested, but by the time the 753 appeared their orders were made and mostly delivered. Which was a mistake really, as the 757 was designed with a stretch in mind from the start.
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RE: Airbus Lengthens Lead Over Boeing At Farnborug

Thu Jul 22, 2004 3:33 pm

AirframeAS LOL  Smile

It wasn't all bad news, the RAF is buying the 4 Boeing C-17s they are leasing and buying one more  Big grin

But The way things are going we will only be having C vs E wars as RJs take over the world.............

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RE: Airbus Lengthens Lead Over Boeing At Farnborugh Ai

Thu Jul 22, 2004 10:58 pm

Landing is the 2nd greatest thrill known to man, Landing is the 1st

Huh?  Confused
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RE: Airbus Lengthens Lead Over Boeing At Farnborug

Fri Jul 23, 2004 12:41 am

Landing is the 2nd greatest thrill known to man, Landing is the 1st
Exactly, uh what?

The reason why Airbus is selling more is because Boeing has already built thousands of planes still operating, and they're still running good. I think Boeing and Airbus will always flip-flop on who will be tops forever. And neither wants to knock the other out of the 'race'. Boeing and Airbus will be around for a while!

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RE: Airbus Lengthens Lead Over Boeing At Farnborug

Fri Jul 23, 2004 12:54 am

Typo, my bad-
that tag should be: Flying is the 2nd greatest thrill known to man, Landing is the 1st.....

I agree that the two will flip-flop over the next few years, and still think RJ growth will outpace both.

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