dragon-wings
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Curfew At Islip? (ISP/KISP)

Sat Jul 24, 2004 4:30 am

Is there a curfew at MacArthur Airport? I always thought there was one from 11pm or 12am to 6am. (I'm not complaining about it, I'm just curious. I love it when the planes come over my house  Big thumbs up )

On Wednesday at 12:40am a Southwest Airlines 737-700 came in over my house to land on runway 15R at the airport. And then yesterday a private jet (I think it was a gulfstream) landed on 15R at about 1:20am. Also 2 small private jets (I think they were learjets) took off from 15R at 5am.

Is there any controllers in the tower at those times?
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DeltaMIA
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RE: Curfew At Islip? (ISP/KISP)

Sat Jul 24, 2004 4:36 am

ISP does have curfew between 11pm and 6:30am for flights arriving and departing. Flights can operate between those hours but are subject to a large fee charged by the airport, something like $50,000. However they do offer exceptions caused by things such as weather delays.
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RE: Curfew At Islip? (ISP/KISP)

Sat Jul 24, 2004 6:07 am

On Wednesday at 12:40am a Southwest Airlines 737-700 came in over my house to land on runway 15R at the airport. And then yesterday a private jet (I think it was a gulfstream) landed on 15R at about 1:20am. Also 2 small private jets (I think they were learjets) took off from 15R at 5am.

The Southwest flight seems like a weather delay, as I cannot see them paying for a late-night arrival, although I would not be surprised if the private jet paid extra.

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dragon-wings
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RE: Curfew At Islip? (ISP/KISP)

Sat Jul 24, 2004 7:14 am

At the times I saw these planes land the weather was cloudy, but that's about it. The weather must of been bad at the airport they were coming from. I guess the 2 private jets that took off at 5am just wanted to get to the destination early, cause the weather was just cloudy at that time.

Does anyone know if there are controllers in the tower at those times?
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RE: Curfew At Islip? (ISP/KISP)

Sat Jul 24, 2004 7:25 am

Does anyone know if there are controllers in the tower at those times?

The tower is closed from 0000-0600.

That surprises me they landed on 15R, they must have been pretty light as the runway is only 5186 X 150.
 
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RE: Curfew At Islip? (ISP/KISP)

Sat Jul 24, 2004 9:55 am

"The tower is closed.........."

You don't need a tower to takeoff and land.

"....5186X150."

Plenty of room for many large aircraft to land.
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RE: Curfew At Islip? (ISP/KISP)

Sat Jul 24, 2004 10:56 am

Actually I am pretty sure that the fine was only implemented for a couple of days a few years ago. It was more of a political move and was overturned in the courts. Some politician saw the opportunity to gain some votes from the people who didn't want planes flying into islip late at night so he proposed a law enforcing some extravagant fine. The politician knew that it would be overturned in the courts but the public opinion of this tool went up because "hey I tried to make something happen". There may still be a fine in place but it was no where near the 50,000 dollar fine this guy proposed. In the AFD all it says is "arpt restricted 0400-1130 Z daily for acft indicating over 85 decibel apch and 72 decibel tkf except emergency or mercy flights." the politician also wanted the law to state that any fees charged against aircraft that violated these procedures would go to the township and not to the airport. That was squashed as well. So my guess is that southwest had a delay and just either paid the small fine or received a waiver.

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RE: Curfew At Islip? (ISP/KISP)

Sat Jul 24, 2004 11:49 am

Suffolk County PD runs their medivac helicopters out of ISP, obviously at all hours.
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