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Traffic Between The UK And Bangladesh

Sun Jul 25, 2004 6:05 am

A few questions regarding BA's service to Dhaka (DAC) from LHR.

It's one of BA's lesser known routes, but how does it perform? BA have been flying to DAC continously since the 1980's, surely BA won't be operating costly long haul routes without it returning a operating profit?

What about business traffic between the UK and Bangladesh? Are there strong economic ties? AFAIK, BA fly to Dhaka 3 times a week from LHR, one of the is routed through Calcutta in India. LHR>>CCU>>DAC.

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carduelis
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RE: Traffic Between The UK And Bangladesh

Sun Jul 25, 2004 7:55 am

Hello, Arsenal.

Last time I was in DAC was for around 6 hours in transit on a DELDACDEL 747.

I believe that currently the service is a non-stop 3 times a week with a 772 with config of J, WT+ and WT.

Looking at tomorrow's, Sunday, figures, the 'premium' seats are well sold, but good avail in WT.

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RE: Traffic Between The UK And Bangladesh

Sun Jul 25, 2004 8:05 am

Are there strong economic ties?

I think the social links are far more significant than economic ones. There is a huge Bangledeshi community residing in the UK, just look at Mile End and Brick Lane in East London. Biman seem to always have full flights too, though some of their flights are routed via DXB (with 5th freedom rights).

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RE: Traffic Between The UK And Bangladesh

Sun Jul 25, 2004 8:11 am

BA does a fair amount of business -- thanks mostly to Bangladeshi born UK citizens (or their children) and connecting traffic across the Atlantic. There were rumors that the three non-stop 777 service will go up to 5 -- the current BA station manager in Dhaka was quoted as saying that this will likely happen 'shortly' but I have not seen any official announcements.

BA is known to have shown an interest in flying to Sylhet -- the city where most of the Bangladeshi-Britons come from, but the Bangladesh government has not been very responsive. So, BA relies on Biman and GMG Airlines for connecting flights at Dhaka -- and I have been told that the transfer is anything but smooth.

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RE: Traffic Between The UK And Bangladesh

Sun Jul 25, 2004 8:12 am

I reckon the route does make money for BA, it's been operating for so long uninterrupted, BA have axed other more well known established routes but DAC remains. As Horus pointed out, Biman flights go out packed from LHR year round, no reason why BA can't attract pax with it's product and reputation.
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RE: Traffic Between The UK And Bangladesh

Sun Jul 25, 2004 8:16 am

They did fly a flew charters to Manchester a few years back using the DC-10. I'm sure a return to MAN would be good to them, just as it is to Emirates at the moment who fly many Bangladeshi's from MAN for connecting to DAC via DXB . But I don't see this happening in the short term as Biman don't have enough aircraft.
 
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RE: Traffic Between The UK And Bangladesh

Sun Jul 25, 2004 8:17 am

Arsenal@LHR, I think Biman attracts greater numbers simply because its much cheaper, even though it might offer an inferior product (food is amazing though:D)

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RE: Traffic Between The UK And Bangladesh

Sun Jul 25, 2004 8:23 am

I've been led to believe that, as has been mentioned before, Syhlet is the main market for presumably low yield, but bearing in mind that 99.99% of staff working in 'Indian' restaurants in GB, come form that area, and the assumption is that the employment mafia is based there, indicates a flowing market!


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RE: Traffic Between The UK And Bangladesh

Sun Jul 25, 2004 9:05 am

Sylhet is an interesting one, there was rumours about Biman starting London-Sylhet flight as Planemannyc mentioned, but nothing has materialised since.
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RE: Traffic Between The UK And Bangladesh

Mon Jul 26, 2004 3:20 am

BG sells out LHR-DAC flights because of EXTREMELY cheap prices which at the end of the day lowers the yield...their Y and J class fares on their hopeless DC 10-30s are dirt cheap and an attractive option...however their inflight DC 10 product is horrible.
 
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RE: Traffic Between The UK And Bangladesh

Mon Jul 26, 2004 3:50 am

Actually, Atiqul (Arsenal@LHR), there are three BG flights on LHR-ZYL (Sylhet). The routing is LHR-DXB-DAC-ZYL and the flights I am told are almost always packed (flights BG 006, 014. 016). There are no direct flights (passengers must change planes in Dhaka). I am not sure why this is set up in such a manner.

Biman charges $40 per passenger extra for the Sylhet flight (so, a passenger will pay $40 less to Dhaka, although most fare structures around the world would put ZYL and DAC at the same rate). They get away with it because they are the only ones flying direct (same plane) to ZYL.

Bangladeshis from Sylhet also have large communities in the US (particularly Queens, NY, Detroit, MI and Paterson, NJ) as well as Canada (mostly in Toronto) and also in the Middle East (Dubai, Jeddah, Riyadh and Kuwait).

Sylhet only got a runway extension about 10 years ago, and that too not long enough for a DC-10 or Boeing 747/777, so the largest aircraft to the airport is the A310. There was a plan to extend the runway further, but nothing has been done in the past five years.

One of the reasons it is believed why Sylhet does not get the extension is that the government of Bangladesh wants to keep foreign airlines out. With Biman being the only airlines serving internationally from Sylhet, Biman enjoys a nice monopoly. A second reason is that by keeping foreign (or even long-distance Biman) flights out, the customs and other officials in Dhaka can prey on the poor and often less-educated passengers at Zia International Airport. It is sad, but very true. I have with my own eyes seen Cutoms officers speaking rudely to Sylhet-bound passengers, while at other times I have seen arriving passengers from London with a connection to Sylhet being denied boarding passes although they have confirmed or valid reservations (so that the official can facilitate the service only after the passenger bribes him). It really is sad, but it is true.

As mentioned earlier, more than 90% of Bangladeshi-Britons come from the Sylhet region, yet very little is done to make it easier for them to get to their destination.

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Wasim / Planemannyc