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Boeing 747 Cockpit Window Shots

Sun Jul 25, 2004 10:25 pm

Greetings!

This is my first post on Airliners.net! I have a question about some of the 747 pictures taken out of the cockpit, why is it they don't look any higher? Some of the shots look like they are taken out of a DC-9 cockpit, shouldn't they be higher up since the cockpit is nearly two stories high?

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RE: Boeing 747 Cockpit Window Shots

Sun Jul 25, 2004 10:37 pm

Welcome to Airliners.net!

In response to your question, if you are talking about cockpit shots in-flight, then at 35,000 feet, another twenty feet or so does not make a huge difference. For shots where you can see the runway, again, twenty feet does not make that much of a difference when compared to how far the runway actually is.

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RE: Boeing 747 Cockpit Window Shots

Mon Jul 26, 2004 1:10 am

Thank you for your response Will!

I mainly mean in pictures where it shows the 747 on the ground in relation to other smaller a/c. Like in one picture (sorry could not find it) where it is behind a CRJ and the cockpit looks almost even with the back of the CRJ.
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RE: Boeing 747 Cockpit Window Shots

Mon Jul 26, 2004 1:25 am

The difference in length between two objects can cause that distortion.

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RE: Boeing 747 Cockpit Window Shots

Mon Jul 26, 2004 2:00 am

Here are some shots that show the height of the 747 flight deck quite well:


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RE: Boeing 747 Cockpit Window Shots

Mon Jul 26, 2004 2:15 am

May be that I am glamorizing how high the 747 cockpit is, I always kind of pictured it as looming high above everything else. Especially CRJ's such as in the last picture.
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RE: Boeing 747 Cockpit Window Shots

Mon Jul 26, 2004 3:39 am

Well if you sit in the upper deck section of a 747, at first you will notice how far up you are compared to everyone else by looking out the window. However, when taking a picture (esp of other aircraft) the height difference sometimes only looks minimal.
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RE: Boeing 747 Cockpit Window Shots

Mon Jul 26, 2004 5:51 am

So basically it is an optical illusion?

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RE: Boeing 747 Cockpit Window Shots

Mon Jul 26, 2004 1:13 pm

I've noticed that sometimes it doesn't look very high up is due to the angle at which the shots are taken. I assume the majority of cockpit shots, that include at least some of the center pedestal (throttles, radio, etc.) are taken at eye level of someone standing. Average height would probably mean some downward angle of the shot and the ground looking a lot closer..... just my observation.
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RE: Boeing 747 Cockpit Window Shots

Mon Jul 26, 2004 1:20 pm

Well if you sit in the upper deck section of a 747, at first you will notice how far up you are compared to everyone else by looking out the window. However, when taking a picture (esp of other aircraft) the height difference sometimes only looks minimal.
Yep.

So basically it is an optical illusion?
Not really, as it is just how your eye sees things in terms of distance.

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RE: Boeing 747 Cockpit Window Shots

Mon Jul 26, 2004 2:25 pm

Yes, as SafetyDude points out, distance is key. Take this shot for instance.

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Because everything is so close to the eye, the height difference compared to being downstairs is very noticeable. However, once you start pulling away from the jetbridge and the cars then at some point everything starts looking level to the eye. Even the camera's eye (lens).

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Once you're a few meters away from the concourse, everything will start looking level.

These are just from my experiences. If I'm in a 747, once I start staring at objects at a distance, I sometimes forget whether I'm sitting upstairs or downstairs.
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RE: Boeing 747 Cockpit Window Shots

Mon Jul 26, 2004 2:51 pm

WOW! Thanks for all the kind responses. Definitly makes me feel welcome to A-net!

There are times I like to go to the window of my doctor's office (is on second floor), and just look out of the window and think to myself, that's how high the flight deck is of this wonderful bird. Pretty neat to think about I think!

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RE: Boeing 747 Cockpit Window Shots

Mon Jul 26, 2004 3:29 pm

How rude of me...

Welcome to A.Net!  Big thumbs up

Just noticed that was your 10th post.
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RE: Boeing 747 Cockpit Window Shots

Thu Jul 29, 2004 1:27 pm

Thank you for the welcome!

I also had wondered, as I was once a rampy for DL and on push back (dispatching) had to maintain eye contact with the Captain. Is that much harder on a 747? I have this mental image of the ramp agent walking along with the huge plane with binoculars in one hand haha.

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