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Update On Avianca / Rumors-news About Tampa Cargo

Tue Jul 27, 2004 5:17 am

Hi,


There has been some information (news and rumors) that has been popping up theses days so I thought it would be appropriate to start a new thread on it.


AVIANCA


Not much has been said about the Chapter 11 process after the company finally selected the investor who's going to give Avianca the fresh cash it needs.

Even though the airline has chosen Synergy as the indicated company for injecting the needed money, Allan Gropper, the judge in charge of the whole process said that it's not too late yet for an eventual investor that would be interested in making business with Avianca.

And that is precisely what happened. According to a well-known local magazine, Continental/Copa have publicly announced that they are once again interested in making a bet for the Colombian flagcarrier.

Avianca, nevertheless, doesn't have to accept the new proposal if they don't want to, but the problem is that the Ch.11 judge may not authorize Synergy to buy shares in AV arguing that not all bids were analyzed long enough.

The company, on a brighter side, registered profits for several million dollars in the first quarter of the year after a strict process of re-structuring and rationalization, and expects to rise from bankruptcy under the American law by the end of this year, if everything goes right.

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A few days ago, one Fokker 50 that had abandoned the fleet long time ago, re-joined operations once again, according to a local spotter. Apparently the plane came back in the old red colors, but is/was being painted into the Summa scheme.

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After one successful mid-year season, AV's schedules go back to normal, and are going to be adjusted to the upcoming months, which is a period of slow air traffic. Under the destinations that received intensified service are MIA, CTG and JFK from both BOG and MDE.

Visit their website. http://www.avianca.com/

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TAMPA

The Medellin-based cargo airline is preparing for the arrival of the 767-200Fs that are scheduled to begin operations very very soon. The airline has already been sending crew for training in the United States.

According to a local Tampa worker, the airline will change it's name from "Aerolíneas Tampa" to simple and better Tampa Cargo, and will apparently receive a new livery with the arrival of the 767s.

Tampa Cargo operates multiple daily flights from MDE to MIA, LIM and other domestic destinations.

Visit their website. http://www.tampacargo.com/


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AIRES


One of the pioneer regional airlines in Colombia is now looking better and better !. After re-designing it's webpage, which by the way turned out to be great, the carrier seems to be growing much more, and their coverage all through Colombia is simply amazing.

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The company recently introduced it's brand-new livery, which is currently painted only in one of their aircraft. Apparently one of the Medellin-based Dash-8s is getting the new scheme also. Good thing.

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AIRES recently celebrated the first anniversary of their operational center in Medellin. After ACES went down, AIRES came in and set one of the biggest, but riskiest bets that any airline has done in Medellin (EOH).

In only one month, the airline went from operating two daily flights from Medellin, to almost 20 daily flights to different cities all around the country.

The result, according to the company's CEO, have been spectacular, and the performance of the hub is fullfilling any expectation that the company had.

As a form of saying "thanks", the airline has begun new flights between Medellin (EOH) and Cucuta (CUC) and is further planning a general expansion in the market, because, as the president of the company clearly says, they want to have 50% of the airport's traffic and compete head-to-head with West Caribbean, Satena and ADA.

"We don't want to be another ACES..." said AIRES' CEO, "...because neither we are from Medellin, nor we can offer the presence that the mentioned company had there..." and continued "we just want to fill in the void with good service, and with flights that could be very welcomed by the people in Medellin".

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According to the president of the airline, AIRES will receive two more Dash-8 this year. The first one will be fully-based in Medellin, along with the other 3 aircraft that operate exclusively from there. And the second one will be based in Barranquilla, and will add more connections within the coastal region, because, as the CEO itself said, that is another market with which the company is very pleased.

Visit their website. http://www.aires.com.co/

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Any questions or anything, just ask and I'll see of I can answer



SOUTHAMERICA
 
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RE: Update On Avianca / Rumors-news About Tampa Cargo

Tue Jul 27, 2004 6:25 am

Thanks for the update - I head to Bogota and Medellin next month - It's always fun to see the changes from one trip to the next.
 
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RE: Update On Avianca / Rumors-news About Tampa Cargo

Tue Jul 27, 2004 7:14 am

Thanks for the update - I head to Bogota and Medellin next month

Like from where are you coming Flyingfroggie, and when if I may know?


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RE: Update On Avianca / Rumors-news About Tampa Cargo

Tue Jul 27, 2004 8:55 am

As always, very nice update Southamerica from Colombia's Aviation!

According to a local Tampa worker, the airline will change it's name from "Aerolíneas Tampa" to simple and better Tampa Cargo, and will apparently receive a new livery with the arrival of the 767s.

What a shame I hope they don't change their livery! Those Dc8s look awesome! Just now imagine a B767-200F!

I have a Q SouthAmerica. Tampa right now flies 5 Dc8s, right? With the arrival of the 4 new B767s will they retire their Dc8s? I've heard that they won't but thats what here MY promised and they and they did the opposite. They had 3 Dc8s before the B767 arrival. They retired all their Dc8s and started to haul cargo only in their sole B767  Sad.

Finally is Avianca getting back to their normal scheme, a new one, or just nothing???


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RE: Update On Avianca / Rumors-news About Tampa Cargo

Tue Jul 27, 2004 11:37 am

I can't wait to see a Tampa Cargo 767F on approach to MIA in their new colors! Does anyone have any ideas of what it'll look like? Is it just an update of the current livery? (Like the old red, orange, blue, and white UA colors where they were updated so that the titles were bigger) Thanks for another great update on Colombian aviation, SOUTHAMERICA!  Smile
 
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RE: Update On Avianca / Rumors-news About Tampa Ca

Tue Jul 27, 2004 12:21 pm

Their DC-8's are absolutely -gorgeous- aircraft. I hope they stick around for a while.


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RE: Update On Avianca / Rumors-news About Tampa Cargo

Tue Jul 27, 2004 1:04 pm

Aires is imrpoving very much, i stil remember when they delayed their flights because the plane wasn´t full. Happened to me twice, now, they are a serious and reliable airline.
 
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RE: Update On Avianca / Rumors-news About Tampa Cargo

Tue Jul 27, 2004 1:13 pm

Ghost77,

As always, very nice update Southamerica from Colombia's Aviation!

Thanks for the compliment.  Big thumbs up


What a shame I hope they don't change their livery! Those Dc8s look awesome! Just now imagine a B767-200F!


Well, unfortunately I don't know much about the livery issue. That was said by a close person who works as a first officer in the airline, but it's not official.

Anyway, in case they were to keep the actual livery, here's what the 767 would look like:




Tampa right now flies 5 Dc8s, right?

Correct. Even though in the webpage it says that there are only 4, the company operates an active fleet of 5 DC-8s and one DC-10.


With the arrival of the 4 new B767s will they retire their Dc8s?

Not yet. They plan to operate them a bit more, a least around 2006, according to sources within the company. The DC-8s are in great shape, maintenance levels are high and the engines were changed just a few years ago. It's definite that both aircraft types will be operating together for a good while.


Finally is Avianca getting back to their normal scheme, a new one, or just nothing???

Nothing official in this matter either. Some say they will, some say they won't. I imagine that after solving the Chapter 11 issue they might actually consider re-designing the livery now that the "Alianza Summa" brand is gone for good. But remember that even if the company has lots of plans for the future, they have to concetrate almost 100% on solving the bankrupcy problem, and all the restrictions that this represents to them.

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Again, the thing with the livery is nothing official, just strong rumors that have been flying about.


SOUTHAMERICA
 
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RE: Update On Avianca / Rumors-news About Tampa Cargo

Tue Jul 27, 2004 1:24 pm

I never knew that they operated a DC-10. Where do they fly her to? Is she in the same livery as the DC-8s?
 
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RE: Update On Avianca / Rumors-news About Tampa Cargo

Tue Jul 27, 2004 6:58 pm

On Tampa's DC10.. It is not in the nice orange livery as it is operated by Gemini air Cargo.

Elsewhere not everything is rosy...
Avianca's pilots are still on an uncooperative mode that is creating delays and a lot of unhappy passengers.
I have heard the arguments of both the CEO and pilot leaders, and felt the animosity that exists between them. Pilots have not got a salary increase since the company went into Chapter 11. The company has offered an increase of around 18-22% depending on range: FO or Captain and on equipment flown. However, it is is asking for productivity increase (i,e, rising the monthly hours flown from 75 to 85 among others). Pilots are not prepared to give anything back or even negotiate. In the meantime their action is costing Avianca $300000 a day.
It is clear that pilots deserve a rise, but on the other hand it is frustrating to see that they don't ackowledge that productivity increase is necessary if the company is to thrive in a difficult and competitive environment. Avianca's prospective new owner is a non-nonsense guy, and if pilots think they are going to take Mr Efromovich for a ride with their tactics, they might be in for a big surprise.
One can only be happy that a more dynamic company such as AeroRepublica is growing well, and hope that they will be in a strong position to fill the void should AV not recover. After all, they are not out of Chapter 11 yet and on seeing what is happening, Sinergy could still pull out.
 
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RE: Update On Avianca / Rumors-news About Tampa Cargo

Wed Jul 28, 2004 1:41 am

In PORTAFOLIO they said that the "operación tortuga" was to support FENIX, so that mad passengers would fly Fenix instead of AV next time.
 
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RE: Update On Avianca / Rumors-news About Tampa Cargo

Wed Jul 28, 2004 2:29 am

RCS763av,
When is FENIX start flying?

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RE: Update On Avianca / Rumors-news About Tampa Cargo

Wed Jul 28, 2004 2:52 am

Like from where are you coming Flyingfroggie, and when if I may know?
I live in Texas, but make it to Bogotá about once every three months or so to visit family and friends. I am still unsure as to my exact dates there in August. - but hope to be there for el dia de la Asunción weekend...
 
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RE: Update On Avianca / Rumors-news About Tampa Cargo

Wed Jul 28, 2004 2:57 am

Their DC-8's are absolutely -gorgeous- aircraft. I hope they stick around for a while.
I don't know what it is - but every time I see it take off at Rio Negro, I get chills... it's such a beautiful bird with quite an impressive departure.
 
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RE: Update On Avianca / Rumors-news About Tampa Cargo

Wed Jul 28, 2004 3:26 am

Southamerica,

Thank you very much!

Well, now that Tampa is getting more planes in their fleet I hope to see them during the day @ MEX! I don't know exactly but almost all days have a daily mid-night operation with Dc8s. I also shoot a few pictures to them years ago when they flew to MEX during the afternoon! I hope to see them here during light hours! And as I said before I hope that rumor of changing their c/s ends! That livery is perfect!

It also good to know that they'll retire all 8s in 2006. I still have a lot of time to up northeast to MIA to take pictures to those planes!

As for AV I hope they survive and also I'll cross my fingers to see the red in their planes again!

Ricardo APM

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RE: Update On Avianca / Rumors-news About Tampa Cargo

Wed Jul 28, 2004 4:38 am

Fokker50: Fenix is supposed to start before the end of 2004, said from Guillermo Chavarriaga, who is a friend of my dad.
 
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RE: Update On Avianca / Rumors-news About Tampa Cargo

Wed Jul 28, 2004 6:25 am

Tampa is a cargo airline that has scheduled network to all parts(main cities) of Colombia, and makes charter flights (a captain of Tampa told me) to Servientrega in the U.S. and Europe.

AV, the Airlie of Colombia, will not be more from the Colombians.

Aires, now has new routes to Cucuta, new destinations to Bucaramanga, and 2 new destinations.

AeroRepublica, will start services to the U.S, and the incorporation to the fleet of 2 new MD's from SAS.

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RE: Update On Avianca / Rumors-news About Tampa Cargo

Wed Jul 28, 2004 7:23 am

Does anybody know what routes have been granted to Fenix?

Fokker50, do you know when AeroRepublica is starting service to the US?

Regards
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RE: Update On Avianca / Rumors-news About Tampa Cargo

Wed Jul 28, 2004 7:24 am


Fokker50,


Let me ask you a question more politely now: Why do you ask something or say something just for saying it?


AV, the Airlie of Colombia, will not be more from the Colombians.

Why do you enjoy posting things like this? Man, at this point I think that everybody who's interested already knows the situation with AV !

It's as dumb as saying that Copa is no longer from Panama nor Panamanian just because CO ate 49% of it.


Aires, now has new routes to Cucuta

That was already said too. Again, why do you say things just for saying them?


AeroRepublica, will start services to the U.S

Try to avoid posting things that are not accurate. AeroReoublica had plans for beginning several int'l destinations, MIA, UIO, GYE, LIM and UIO. Alfonso Avila has clearly stated that they will NOT begin operating those destinations until the company is not ready to do so. They still might begin this year with Ecuador, but not US !


Calm down with the posting. It's just an advice. Yes, you can post whatever you want, it's your choice, but replying things that do not add to the thread makes you very annoying at times...


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RE: Update On Avianca / Rumors-news About Tampa Cargo

Thu Jul 29, 2004 12:29 am

Just an update on the current dispute at Avianca between directives and pilots:

Fed up with the situation in which punctuality on Avianca flights has badly suffered in the last few days, the Colombian minister for Social Protection has summoned the two parts to a meeting later today in an attempt to solve the situation.

This meeting will be chaired by the Colombian president himself. Those who know his style of government will realise that he will want clear answers, and will want to crack the heads of directives and pilot leaders together until he gets assurances that things will improve or else!

Incognito members of the ministry have taken random flights, and monitored what the causes of delays may be: Whether it is all to do with pilots putting spanners in the works, or as the pilots claim, that is not them but other factors causing delays. A report will be presented at this afternoon's meeting.

I guess both parts will be told off, and sanctions will be threatened. Perhaps a cut in routes for the company and suspension of the trade union.
 
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RE: Update On Avianca / Rumors-news About Tampa Cargo

Thu Jul 29, 2004 1:50 am

Thanks Southa for your update in Colombian Aviation. I didn't know that this Gemini DC 10 has been leased by Tampa Cargo !
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