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ANA Makes 7E7 Order Official

Tue Jul 27, 2004 7:53 pm

According to a Wall Street Journal (subscription access only so no link being provided) article this morning, the president of ANA, Yoji Ohashi, is in Seattle to sign contracts with Boeing to make their 7E7 order official.

The order is for 20 long range 7E7-8 models and 30 shorter range 7E7-3 models. Delivery of the first 6 7E7-8's to occur in 2008.
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RE: ANA Makes 7E7 Order Official

Tue Jul 27, 2004 8:38 pm

Yes, but you can do this:

SEATTLE (AP)--All Nippon Airways' (9202.TO) 50-plane order for Boeing Co.'s (BA) planned new 7E7 airplane will include 20 of the longer range 7E7-8 models and 30 of the shorter range 7E7-3 models, the head of the airline said.

The Japanese airline hopes to take delivery of the first six of the 7E7-8s in the airline's fiscal year beginning in April 2008, Yoji Ohashi, president and chief executive of All Nippon, told reporters Monday.

[...]

Ohashi was in Seattle to sign the contract making the order for the 7E7s official.

[...]

Speaking through a translator, Ohashi said All Nippon had not yet chosen between General Electric Co. (GE) and Rolls Royce Group PLC (RR.LN) for its 7E7 engines, but hoped to do so by November.

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RE: ANA Makes 7E7 Order Official

Tue Jul 27, 2004 8:57 pm

Excellent news.

On a side note, if you properly source the text, you can copy the entire article.

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RE: ANA Makes 7E7 Order Official

Tue Jul 27, 2004 9:16 pm

On a different note, Boeing will probably call it 7E7-800 and 7E7-300, with the E being replaced with a number. Maybe 8.

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RE: ANA Makes 7E7 Order Official

Tue Jul 27, 2004 10:35 pm

its just a matter of time before we hear of a huge JAPAN AIRLINES - JAL - order for numerous B 7E7s to replace their older B 767s and DC 10s.
 
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RE: ANA Makes 7E7 Order Official

Wed Jul 28, 2004 12:06 am

its just a matter of time before we hear of a huge JAPAN AIRLINES - JAL - order for numerous B 7E7s to replace their older B 767s and DC 10s.


I hope so but JAL publically has said that they are interested but do not plan to order it at this time. That may change with ANA going official. Are we going to see the 7E7 on the order totals now?
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RE: ANA Makes 7E7 Order Official

Wed Jul 28, 2004 12:19 am

I wonder why that China order of 60 planes has not been announced, as they seemed pretty keen on the 7E7.

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RE: ANA Makes 7E7 Order Official

Wed Jul 28, 2004 12:21 am

Here's the internal news blurb, with some new info:

ANA finalizes 7E7 order

All Nippon Airways signed documents in Seattle Monday that finalized the carrier’s launch order for 50 Boeing 7E7 Dreamliner airplanes. The order includes 30 7E7-8s and 20 7E7-3s. ANA will receive six 7E7-8 jetliners during its fiscal year beginning April 2008, followed by six more in its 2009 fiscal year. ANA’s first 7E7-3s will be delivered in its fiscal year 2010. The orders will be booked on Boeing’s Orders and Deliveries Web site Thursday.
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RE: ANA Makes 7E7 Order Official

Wed Jul 28, 2004 12:36 am

Steve,
Are they going to keep the 7E7 name or are they going to change it?
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RE: ANA Makes 7E7 Order Official

Wed Jul 28, 2004 12:40 am

Are they going to keep the 7E7 name or are they going to change it?
7E7 is sticking for now, but Boeing executives have been pretty quiet about the name. It is rumored that it will get a number designation prior to entering service.

Do not forget that for the latest aircraft project, the 380, it was known as the A3XX for quite some time, and I imagine that the 7E7 could have been the 7X7, but why not throw in an "E" and get some marketing out of it?

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RE: ANA Makes 7E7 Order Official

Wed Jul 28, 2004 12:47 am

Got me Nyc777... that's a marketing/PR thing. Not my field. I personally wish they would keep the 7E7 name.. especially now that it has a lot of brand recognition.
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RE: ANA Makes 7E7 Order Official

Wed Jul 28, 2004 12:48 am

Keyword = Search

this post was already listed a while ago.

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RE: ANA Makes 7E7 Order Official

Wed Jul 28, 2004 1:09 am

this post was already listed a while ago.
Actually, this post was first. It was posted at 12:53:28, while the other one was nearly four-hours later at 16:51:01.

By the way, that post can be found here: http://www.airliners.net/discussions/general_aviation/read.main/1671118/.

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RE: ANA Makes 7E7 Order Official

Wed Jul 28, 2004 1:14 am

Um considering were both on EASTERN STANDARD TIME since your profile says NYC. I doubt me being in Miami would have a 3 HOUR ahead time difference. Last time I checked..were both on the same time ..hahahahahhaa.

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Anyway, congrats to ANA and BOEING. Let's see what engines they choose for these babies...
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RE: ANA Makes 7E7 Order Official

Wed Jul 28, 2004 2:20 am

Um considering were both on EASTERN STANDARD TIME since your profile says NYC. I doubt me being in Miami would have a 3 HOUR ahead time difference. Last time I checked..were both on the same time ..hahahahahhaa.

Those times that I posted are the times that the topics were submitted, according to Airliners.net standard time (UTC+1). It has nothing to do with what time zone you are in.

Thus, this topic was posted first (12:53:28), and the other topic was posted later (16:51:01).  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

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RE: ANA Makes 7E7 Order Official

Wed Jul 28, 2004 2:33 am

"According to a Wall Street Journal. . ."

Also available here:

http://biz.yahoo.com/rc/040726/airlines_allnippon_4.html


"I hope so but JAL publically has said that they are interested but do not plan to order it at this time."

Indeed. However, recently Boeing has reapproached JAL about the aircraft. This is because Boeing has received such tremendous interest, as already publically stated, that if JAL doesn't order now, they won't get a single frame before 2010. Therefore, Boeing re-pitched the aircraft to JAL a few weeks ago basicially saying "It's now or much later." We may see some movement from the airline this time. Only time will tell. . .

"I wonder why that China order of 60 planes has not been announced, as they seemed pretty keen on the 7E7."

The last I heard, it was supposed to be announced during Farnborough. However, as it clearly wasn't (not much was), I honestly can't say when we'll hear confirmation.

"7E7 is sticking for now, but Boeing executives have been pretty quiet about the name."

In a conference call with reporters about a week before Farnborough, Stonecipher 'accidently' called it the 787 several times. When asked about this, he merely called it a slip of the tongue. I've heard the official name will be announced with the first signed contract, but as BCAInfoSys pointed it, it is ultimately up to the PR department, so who knows.

BTW - just a few details. First -8 delivery to ANA in April 2008, with 6 that fiscal year, and 6 the next. First -3 deliveries in 2010. Engines to be chosen later in the year, probably November. Last 767s on order will be taken, but perhaps converted into orders for -300Fs, possibly for NCA. That is still in the air.

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RE: ANA Makes 7E7 Order Official

Wed Jul 28, 2004 2:45 am

Anyone have any other inside info on timing of future orders and or contract signings and by whom for the 787 (7E7)?
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RE: ANA Makes 7E7 Order Official

Wed Jul 28, 2004 3:05 am

Nyc777 -

If it's inside info you want, don't expect to get anything too juicy. We obviousy can't give away anything internal (at least not too much) for fear of violating our non-disclosure agreements and risking our job security. Sorry.
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RE: ANA Makes 7E7 Order Official

Wed Jul 28, 2004 3:09 am

Anyone have any other inside info on timing of future orders and or contract signings and by whom for the 787 (7E7)?
"787" has not been confirmed as the (new) name for the 7E7. There are also other possibilities such as 808 or 2707.

In terms of orders, SQ is rumored to announce a large order towards the end of August. A bunch of Chinese airlines are also rumored to order planes, with a total amongst the airlines of 60 (including options), although rumors have died down about the Chinese airlines.

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RE: ANA Makes 7E7 Order Official

Wed Jul 28, 2004 4:18 am

BCA InfoSys-

Please!!!??? (I wasn't sure if saying please would help or not but had to give it a try)!
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RE: ANA Makes 7E7 Order Official

Wed Jul 28, 2004 4:21 am

Please!!!??? (I wasn't sure if saying please would help or not but had to give it a try)!
On-line begging will not help. If you read some of the 7E7 topics, you will see that there are many "rumored" airlines.

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RE: ANA Makes 7E7 Order Official

Wed Jul 28, 2004 4:24 am

On-line begging will not help. If you read some of the 7E7 topics, you will see that there are many "rumored" airlines.


Well at least I'm not on my knees. Looking forward to the next 5 months to see how the 7E7 order book turns around.
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RE: ANA Makes 7E7 Order Official

Wed Jul 28, 2004 4:34 am

Well at least I'm not on my knees. Looking forward to the next 5 months to see how the 7E7 order book turns around.
Um, okay.

If you want to know what orders to expect for the 7E7, I suggest that you read those topics, as I imagine that quite a few of those rumors will come true.

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