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INTER: Colombia's Forgotten Airline?

Wed Jul 28, 2004 4:05 am

The only time Intercontinental de Aviación (INTER) ever really made the headlines was back in 1996 when one of their DC-9s exploded over a swamp in Colombia, in which only a teenage girl survived. Although it is still around, flying an 8-strong DC-9 fleet older than Northwest's, I've heard very little about them. It also appears to have no 2-letter IATA code. Does anyone know if they are a genuinely bad airline or did they just earn a bad name on account of the crash?

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RE: INTER: Colombia's Forgotten Airline?

Wed Jul 28, 2004 4:17 am

They are a bad airline. They have a very strong but old fleet, of 8 DC-9, and 1 Dash 8-300.
Also they doesn't have enought money to pay for the Aerocivil, so their activities are suspended. If they don't pay them to the Aerocivil that money, they will be in Bankrupty, and INTER will be gone.

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RE: INTER: Colombia's Forgotten Airline?

Wed Jul 28, 2004 4:35 am

I remember when i flew inter, the poor plane shouted and shattered as if it was gonna explode. Food was gross, and they dindin´t even had an in-flight magazine, that was one of my most boring flights to CTG.
 
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RE: INTER: Colombia's Forgotten Airline?

Wed Jul 28, 2004 4:37 am

It is a shame. I did some work for Inter in 1999, when the FAA was in Colombia to recertify their status. At that time Avianca was trying real hard to muscle out the little guts, like Aerorepublica, ACES(before the merger and subsequent death), Aero Sucre et. al. I evaluated the DC-9s as part of a Repair Assessment Program (RAP) and found the airplanes were not neglected as everyone was saying. I met some very nice, professionals that took their work seriously. If indeed they have suspended operations, it is a shame. I remember watching them come and go from San Andres.
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RE: INTER: Colombia's Forgotten Airline?

Wed Jul 28, 2004 4:49 am

Although it never was something to brag about, INTER was a nearly "decent" airline in the mid-90s or so...

Then the situation started to get worse and worse for the small carrier (Financial problems started to arise and this meant more cutbacks each time) They went from having a good coverage of all Colombia and a few international destinations to a network of 5 or 6 domestic markets only.

They cut destinations such as Medellin, and Santa Marta, which are strong players in the country, for business and leisure travel respectively.

Just before the government banned all their operations for a huge debt with the loal authorities several weeks ago, INTER had focused all their operations on serving mostly leisure markets from Cali and Bogota. At that time (like two months ago) they had brought a couple of 737-300s ex-Frontier, which were going to be aimed for new marktes, but luck was not on their side again, and they didn't have the cash, nor the permission to fly them, thus they were returned.

INTER is not flying at the moment anymore, as stated above. And it's not like I'm missing them horribly  Yeah sure , nor I have during the past 10 years of absence. Certainly we have better, stronger and more reliable airlines flying around of which we should be proud of.



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RE: INTER: Colombia's Forgotten Airline?

Wed Jul 28, 2004 6:19 am

As SOUTHAMERICA said, INTER was a very good airline, with high standards of service, and a good fleet. But now, INTER is a bad airline with the most old aircraft in the Colombian skies(in terms of passenger service), and a very crappy image around Colombia, their representations are always represented by travel agencies, they don't have a web page, and all their maintenance is very poor.
The percentage of participation in the Colombian market is only of 2.3 in the Colombian market.

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RE: INTER: Colombia's Forgotten Airline?

Wed Jul 28, 2004 8:09 am

Fokker50...

How would you know what poor maintenance is? I have seen things done with other airplanes that would make me think twice about releasing them for service. I am familiar with some of Colombia's operators as well the country. I was there one week a month for three years.
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RE: INTER: Colombia's Forgotten Airline?

Wed Jul 28, 2004 9:15 am

they had an emergency landing here in PTY about a year ago, the DC9 was going from somewhere in mainland colombia to San Andres, the plane landed at PTY and the people in it had to stay at the airport becouse the airline didnt pay hotels and the people had no passport becouse it was a domestic flight. The plane was later retained in Panama due to non payment of something. dont know how the incident ended but it left a very bad immpression of the airline.
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RE: INTER: Colombia's Forgotten Airline?

Wed Jul 28, 2004 10:42 am

If they go under, i bet P5, AV and YH would fill the mini gap in days, and really, I wouldn´t miss them.

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RE: INTER: Colombia's Forgotten Airline?

Wed Jul 28, 2004 11:10 am

Miamiair:

I tell that because in their accidents, all have been of technical problems.
In those accidents, all the passengers have been died, and all their incidents make that their aircraft have an status of unserviceable.

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RE: INTER: Colombia's Forgotten Airline?

Wed Jul 28, 2004 11:17 am

How many accidents have INTER had?

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RE: INTER: Colombia's Forgotten Airline?

Wed Jul 28, 2004 11:24 am

LVZXV: INTER has 2 accidents, and 3 incidents in their entire operating life.

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RE: INTER: Colombia's Forgotten Airline?

Wed Jul 28, 2004 11:28 am

Fokker50:

You mean since 1965? All involving DC-9s?

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RE: INTER: Colombia's Forgotten Airline?

Wed Jul 28, 2004 11:56 am

No, the firs accident (or incident) was in a brand "new" DC-9, that took of Bogota, and for an altimeter failure, the airplane crashed in the jungle, and only a person survived. The second was more like an incident due that nobody was killed, but the aircraft was later unserviceable. And the three incidients are all by an engine failure.

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RE: INTER: Colombia's Forgotten Airline?

Wed Jul 28, 2004 10:18 pm

My uncle, his waife and my cousin was on a flight to San Andres and when they took off, they diverted to MDE because of a problem with the engine, then took off from MDE and the engine still had problems, so they had to wait for INTER´s technicians to be flown there, repair the engine and then go to ADZ, they arrived 11 hours late.
 
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RE: INTER: Colombia's Forgotten Airline?

Wed Jul 28, 2004 10:38 pm

"No, the firs accident (or incident) was in a brand "new" DC-9, that took of Bogota, and for an altimeter failure, the airplane crashed in the jungle, and only a person survived."

Hi Fokker50,

Only thing I can tell you is that you have a big imagination. You should be writing soap operas. Where did you say Inter crashed?? In the jungle... Ahhh, Amazonas, ha,ha,ha.

Inter crashed near Maria Labaja, a small village close to Cartagena. Guess what?? There's no jungle there... Well, there is a swamp if you want to call that a jungle.  Laugh out loud

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RE: INTER: Colombia's Forgotten Airline?

Wed Jul 28, 2004 11:53 pm

SoAmSky:

Well, there was a soap-opera element. The sole surviving passenger, a 14-year-old girl flung from the disintegrating cabin by her mother, was then robbed of all valuable possessions by locals in the vicinity as she lay in the swamp, as were the dead victims who lay strewn over a large area. To rob an injured girl who had miraculously survived a plane crash in which both her parents had died is just wrong.

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RE: INTER: Colombia's Forgotten Airline?

Thu Jul 29, 2004 2:03 am

"The sole surviving passenger, a 14-year-old girl flung from the disintegrating cabin by her mother, was then robbed of all valuable possessions by locals in the vicinity as she lay in the swamp, as were the dead victims who lay strewn over a large area. To rob an injured girl who had miraculously survived a plane crash in which both her parents had died is just wrong."

Hi XV,

I agree with you. That was completely wrong. However, at least, Colombian government and private sector were moved and offered the little girl protection and well being until adulthood. I think she was warranted free education until university, free medical services, etc. I would like to know how is she doing now.

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RE: INTER: Colombia's Forgotten Airline?

Thu Jul 29, 2004 3:09 am

SoAmSky:

Is not a soap opera. If you go to http://www.airdisaster.com you will find the accident. You will find other incident, but if look in google, you will find the other 3 incidents.

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RE: INTER: Colombia's Forgotten Airline?

Thu Jul 29, 2004 10:32 pm

Fokker50...

What do you know personally of their maintenance status? Have you looked at their maintenance records? Have you spoken to their PMI's or the Ops people at AeroCivil? Why don't you do that before you smear not only an airline, but the people that work there?
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RE: INTER: Colombia's Forgotten Airline?

Fri Jul 30, 2004 2:09 am

Miamiair

I think the accidents and incidents speak by it self...

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RE: INTER: Colombia's Forgotten Airline?

Fri Jul 30, 2004 2:25 am

So every airline that has an accident has poor maintenance? Get a reality check. Go read the definition of an accident. An accident has many causes. I guess if wind shear swatted them out of the sky you'll have a better answer than if God had wanted man to fly, He would have given us wings...
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RE: INTER: Colombia's Forgotten Airline?

Fri Jul 30, 2004 2:28 am

But all Inter accidents and incidents are of cause of the maintenance of the engines.

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