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Fri Jul 30, 2004 6:29 am

A319 service from FNT & GRR to LAS-----
CRJ's from MSP to ABQ & TUS----
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Fri Jul 30, 2004 7:03 am

Favre,

When does the service begin?

I also heard rumor today about expanded flying out of BOS to Europe. Hear anything about this anyone?

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Fri Jul 30, 2004 7:52 am

Source please?

Rumor or confirmed?

When?

Frequency?

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Fri Jul 30, 2004 7:54 am

Seriously!? Got a link?

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Fri Jul 30, 2004 7:54 am

Where did you get this info from. What is the source???
 
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Fri Jul 30, 2004 8:12 am

Favre does not need a source. He is the source. This is one of the few members on this board you should just take his word for it.

Doesn't NW already fly MSP-ABQ with mainline? Is the CRJ referring to a downgrade or additional service?

The GRR news is fantastic, hope it all goes through well.
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Fri Jul 30, 2004 8:16 am

AZO: Good point, I hadn't looked at his profile. Still, I can't wait to see it in a press release.

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Fri Jul 30, 2004 8:36 am

Favre - any info regarding E7plnrs post about NWA looking at some UAL 744s?


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Fri Jul 30, 2004 8:45 am

Just thought I would post this LOOOK more A330-20 A330-30 on their way ~
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Fri Jul 30, 2004 9:01 am

The flights from MSP are additional service..GRR-FNT service will be announced very soon..Yes the talks about additional 744's are true as well as conversion of 3-5 747-200's to freighters..
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Fri Jul 30, 2004 9:03 am

The MSP-TUS is sat night/sunday morning. Flight time is 3 hours 40 minutes. Yuk.
 
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Fri Jul 30, 2004 9:04 am

A move like this would not surprise me at all. NWA continues to develop hubs while focusing on certain Heartland cities. The addition of this flying would make LAS a mini focus city wouldn't it?

I have also heard rumors of other new NWA routes (mind you these are rumors):

SFO-LAS

BOS-Glasgow (757-300)
BOS-Shannon (757-300)
BOS-CDG (757-300)

Can anyone 'in the know' confirm anything?

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Fri Jul 30, 2004 9:20 am

As I am not really a UA fan, I for one would LOVE to see SFO-LAS on NW.

Does anyone have anymore info?
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Fri Jul 30, 2004 9:48 am

Well the SFO-LAS makes sense since there are a lot of NRT pax who go on to LAS anyways. It would be kind of like the LAX-LAS.

Does anybody know if the 753 has range to go from BOS-SNN/GLA/CDG? They would be putting big constraints on those birds if they did that because they have already added quite a few Hawaii routes utilizing the 753s...
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Fri Jul 30, 2004 10:25 am

I don't think that their is any truth to the BOS-europe flights. Like stated before, NW is taking most of those planes and putting them on their west coast to Hawaii routes. They also use those planes on their major hub routes. MSP-SEA, LAX, SFO and MCO, DTW-SEA, PHX, LAX and MCO. Also for flights between DTW-MSP. NW only has 16 of the 757-300. I think that they would be better off flying a 757-200 across the pond to europe. That way they would have better range and not so many restrictions on the flight. Hopefully this helps

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Fri Jul 30, 2004 10:32 am

Thanks Favre...

Regarding BOS-Europe. I can't see NWA straying away from their international gateway in DTW. DTW is indeed a great point to Europe and why they'd want to get mixed up in a fierce east coast to Europe battle is beyond me. 753s would also create an unstandard product accross the pond, because they wouldn't be able to put the new WBC in those plabnes. If they did, it would render them useless domestically. I think 753s to Hawaii and heavy domestic runs are about all the 753s will see. IF NWA expanded further into Europe it would be strateigcally to create more revenues whilst not taking away from the AMS and now CDG connecting points in Europe. Perhaps the 332s could be deployed to thinner markets across the Atlantic... DTW-MAN, DUB, BHX etc...

We'll see what happens...


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Fri Jul 30, 2004 10:44 am

So can you fly from MCO-LAS and make a connection in GRR?
 
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Fri Jul 30, 2004 11:20 am

I wonder if NW would ever consider doing something like Air France's Dedicate service, in sending A319LR's long distance. That would certainly be cool thing, and BOS would be a great European gateway.

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Fri Jul 30, 2004 11:45 am

It's seems as if LAS is turning into a mini-hub for NW.

 
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Fri Jul 30, 2004 12:45 pm

I don't think LAS is really turning into the mini hub (or LAX for that matter). It just so happens that all of the expansions out of the midwest have included MCO and LAS (and most include LAX).
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Fri Jul 30, 2004 1:19 pm

CRJ service from MSP to ABQ and TUS is supplemental and weekend-only... these cities will retain mainline service every day of the week, so travelers will have mainline options to choose from, even on the weekends. Basically... no need to worry about Delta-fication of these routes yet.


It just so happens that all of the expansions out of the midwest have included MCO and LAS (and most include LAX).


Exactly. I guess if a passenger wanted to connect from FNT to LAX, he or she could do so in LAS, but these routes stem almost entirely from O&D traffic, so the term "minihub" is inaccurate, even for cities with greatly enhanced operations like Indianapolis and Milwaukee. Routes like IND-LAX, GRR-MCO, and FNT-LAS are competitive responses from NW to airlines like WN, FL, TZ, G4, USA3000 and the like which have recently added new service in key Heartland markets. The new nonstops are NW's way of communicating that the airline understands the desires of the communities and passengers that they serve, and that they want these customers to remain loyal.

Additionally, such new service could be seen as a "preemptive strike" against other carriers thinking about entering these markets. NW wants to make it loud and clear that they will defend the Midwest from LCCs at all costs, and these new nonstop flights seem to say exactly that.


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Fri Jul 30, 2004 2:11 pm

I love to see this speculation ,its fun.But one thing for sure the 757 -300 will all be used on ETOPS rts.If NWA paid the money for ETOPS upgrade they will be used ETOPS.All 16 of them.
 
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Fri Jul 30, 2004 11:54 pm

To answer the ABQ question....there are TWO flights a day between MSP and ABQ. JUST for TWO SATURDAYS in OCTOBER (only those two days) there will be CRJ opering a THIRD flight. The Third flight is to accomidate the Ballon Fiesta' passengers.

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Sat Jul 31, 2004 2:17 am

Northwest has added or will be adding service to Tokyo and Honolulu from PDX. Could the airport see more service from Northwest in the future or is this pretty much it for PDX? The Honolulu service really surprised me though..
 
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Sat Jul 31, 2004 2:25 am

Leneld,

Personally, I do think PDX will see more from NWA..(just MY opinion and guess here), with NWA winning the Microsoft contract last year, and PDX has Nike and Microsoft there, it would make sense to expand and keep the corporate passengers.
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Sat Jul 31, 2004 2:58 am

NW also just won the Nike contract also.
 
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Mon Aug 02, 2004 1:06 am

Squirrel83,

That was an awesome picture! Seeing those two NW 330s sitting there. They are a beautiful piece of machinery!
 
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Mon Aug 02, 2004 1:46 am

NW served Glasgow form BOS years ago.

I believe the service was pulled when they stopped flying tx from BOS.

It was a shame as the route had good loads.

I'd love to see NW return to GLA, whether it's to DTW or BOS dosen't really matter to me.

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Mon Aug 16, 2004 7:45 am

NOV sked changes-----MEM-BOS 3 times daily CRJ
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Mon Aug 16, 2004 11:25 am

Favre -

You sure that MEM-BOS service is on a CRJ, not an ARJ? Seems like that's an awfully long CRJ flight. If NW wanted to reduce costs on the route, wouldn't it make more sense to go from a 9 to an ARJ on that long of a flight?
 
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Mon Aug 16, 2004 11:29 am

they flew a CRJ today, so they are already in the transition.
 
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Mon Aug 16, 2004 11:47 am

We already do a once daily MEM-BOS...that has been running since the spring. It's a pretty sweet layover too..haven't gotten to do it myself though.
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Mon Aug 16, 2004 12:44 pm

I just saw a quick blurb in another posting, and I hope someone can confirm or deny.

Is NW discontinuing NRT to TPE? That would be a sad day for me.
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Mon Aug 16, 2004 12:56 pm

Thanks for the info. Any changes or expansions planned in Nagoya for their new airport?
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Mon Aug 16, 2004 12:59 pm

4everRC,

That is true. I think sometime this fall (maybe OCT?). KIX-TPE, which is a 752 at this time, will be upgraded to a 744 at the time NRT-TPE is cut.
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Mon Aug 16, 2004 1:39 pm

when I worked in GRR...............LAS/MCO/DEN were always the top destinations that pax were traveling to. Maybe if the congestion problem in ORD is solved by shifting some flights to DEN we may see a UA non-stop DEN-GRR again. Its only been about 20 years!!!
 
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Mon Aug 16, 2004 1:43 pm

Thanks Nwcoflyer...

Shoot.
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Mon Aug 16, 2004 2:04 pm

Will KIX then be the only TPE flt from Japan? What will be the total TPE mainland service - only TPE-KIX-USA?
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Mon Aug 16, 2004 2:55 pm

Does anyone know what the delivery schedule is for NW's 7 remaining A330-200s?
Does NW retire the DC-10s one-for-one with each A330 that comes online?
Found out this weekend that the 2 DC-10s allocated to the PDX-NRT route will launch the MEM-AMS route when the A330 arrives next month or so....

NW adding some European routes out of BOS would not surprise me in the least. One thing is for certain, NW has been doing a lot of out-of-the-box thinking lately....IND and PDX are examples of that.

If they were to add destinations in Europe, I wonder what they'd add? They already have BOS-AMS. What is the demand for flights to Europe out of BOS?
I know BOS has routes on AA to London, Paris, and Manchester, FI to Reykjavik, AZ to Roma and Milano, BA to London, SP to Lisboa, EI to Shannon and Dublin, LH to Frankfurt and Munchen.......Have I forgotten someone? What other destinations could support a nonstop from BOS?
At one time the dominant carrier at BOS was US, is that still the case?, or has someone like AA or DL taken over that position?....and I'd include affliates.
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Mon Aug 16, 2004 3:02 pm

At one time the dominant carrier at BOS was US, is that still the case?, or has someone like AA or DL taken over that position?....and I'd include affliates.

AA/DL/US are all about the same size at BOS, with each having about 20% of the market. AA is the largest by a little bit at the moment.
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Mon Aug 16, 2004 10:11 pm

Northwest already has tried Boston to SNN, DUB, PIK, GLA, LGW, CDG, FRA, CPH, and they did not work. Don't think they will be trying that again. The loads were very good but the yields were very bad!
 
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Mon Aug 16, 2004 11:53 pm

NW has already been flying the DC-10 on MEM-AMS since June 2003.

SEA-HNL will be upgraded from 753 to a DC-10 later this year.
 
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Tue Aug 17, 2004 6:41 am

A319 service to LIT from MEM Oct. 31st
 
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Tue Aug 17, 2004 6:59 am

Routes like IND-LAX, GRR-MCO, and FNT-LAS are competitive responses from NW to airlines like WN, FL, TZ, G4, USA3000 and the like which have recently added new service in key Heartland markets.

Was GRR-MCO a move to prevent FL from coming to GRR?
 
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Tue Aug 17, 2004 1:55 pm

hopefully, on the domestic front, NW will increase mainline capacity on the GPT-MEM run, and hopefully install GPT-DTW/MSP service. We could use the seats to these markets.
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Tue Aug 17, 2004 10:36 pm

mem-bna also becomes A319--
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Tue Aug 17, 2004 11:34 pm

Farve,

I'm currious if OKC is going to get any mainline Jets back. We have all ARJ's to all three Hubs. Also have you heard if we ( OKC ) will get anymore additional Flights?
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Tue Aug 17, 2004 11:35 pm

BOS to MAD - Spain, one of the most visited coutries in the world could support this route from BOS.

I believe IB once had this route early 90s but from their past financial troubles they cancelled.

Either NW, AA or IB - I can see this route come up again in the near future. Hopefully sooner rather than later!
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Wed Aug 18, 2004 12:58 am

NWADTWFA

"I have also heard rumors of other new NWA routes (mind you these are rumors):

SFO-LAS

BOS-Glasgow (757-300)"


Have you heard any rumours about when this service would begin? ie. 2005/2006?
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Wed Aug 18, 2004 1:02 am

Either NW, AA or IB - I can see this route come up again in the near future. Hopefully sooner rather than later!

Following the popularity of BOS-MAN, I have heard AA is tossing possibly starting this route with a 757. It would replace BOS-CDG, which AA will no longer operate after this summer season.
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